Race for the ARAS 2025

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PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2025, 03:33:35 PM
Quote from: Hand of God on October 24, 2025, 03:06:49 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 24, 2025, 02:37:48 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2025, 02:14:06 PMIt needs addressing for two reasons.
One it gets some money that can be used for a proper purpose
Two it reduces discouragement of people who are doing their bit

Thinking housing and health needs far more addressing than targeting the poorest and most vulnerable.

There's a reason FFG governments target those on welfare in this way.

Can you see the issue with the mass deregulation FFG governments have overseen that led to a banking crisis, that led to billions in expense for crumbling houses in Donegal? The people responsible here by and large walked free from their crimes with millions in their bank account but the FFG governments made a very loud voice of pursuing working class people for welfare fraud.

A narrative has been pursued by neo liberal parties that it's the working class fraudster that we need to be wary off and not the bankers, lobbyists, MNCs etc. You subscribe to that.

Maybe if govts gave low income workers more rights, more protections, more pay then that might be a positive way to reduce welfare fraud. A lot of low income workers would nearly be no worse off on income - maybe fix that issue before moving onto welfare fraud?
Why not do both

there is not infinite resources, people and money so there needs to prioritisation.

Is it feasible? does the additional burden on an already vulnerable cohort of people make sense.

If the costs outweighs the benefits is it worth it just to send a message, also there could be diminishing returns year on year as "chancers" are found  out too.


Could a slight increase in corporate tax bring in more finances or other alternatives bring better cost/benefits?

Then there is alternative approaches as outlined by hog, investments that improve opportunity for those in the most need, thereby reducing welfare costs into the future.



Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2025, 04:30:00 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:23:12 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 04:17:58 PMGood to see that the endless slurs on Catherine Connolly by BotB and his ilk have definitely won hearts and minds and changed lots of people's thinking

Congratulations to HH on her resounding victory

What slurs are you taking about?

All of them.  They've clearly served you well.

No no, don't run away. What have I said that is a slur?
"tankie" would it not be considered an insult?

Hurty word? Maybe. Slur? No.

Cmon Franko, let's have the slurs you mentioned.

Armagh18

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:47:56 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2025, 04:30:00 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:23:12 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 04:17:58 PMGood to see that the endless slurs on Catherine Connolly by BotB and his ilk have definitely won hearts and minds and changed lots of people's thinking

Congratulations to HH on her resounding victory

What slurs are you taking about?

All of them.  They've clearly served you well.

No no, don't run away. What have I said that is a slur?
"tankie" would it not be considered an insult?

Hurty word? Maybe. Slur? No.

Cmon Franko, let's have the slurs you mentioned.
Splitting hairs now ffs.

Banks of the Bann

#1188

It would have to be untrue to be a slur.

As it is, it's a valid criticism.


Cyril Farrell fan

I hear the turn out has been woeful so far. Maybe it will pick up later.
Connolly will win it handy, unless her voter base get complacent.

She'll pull a decent vote in Galway because there is huge local loyalty to her, but a lot of people found her difficult to deal with in her council days. It was hard to get her onside with any local projects.

Franko

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:47:56 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2025, 04:30:00 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:23:12 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 04:17:58 PMGood to see that the endless slurs on Catherine Connolly by BotB and his ilk have definitely won hearts and minds and changed lots of people's thinking

Congratulations to HH on her resounding victory

What slurs are you taking about?

All of them.  They've clearly served you well.

No no, don't run away. What have I said that is a slur?
"tankie" would it not be considered an insult?

Hurty word? Maybe. Slur? No.

Cmon Franko, let's have the slurs you mentioned.

I only need to go back a day or 2 to see you calling her a useful idiot

I stopped there, but I'm sure I'd turn up plenty more with the slightest effort

That do for you boss?

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 06:56:51 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:47:56 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2025, 04:30:00 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:23:12 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 04:17:58 PMGood to see that the endless slurs on Catherine Connolly by BotB and his ilk have definitely won hearts and minds and changed lots of people's thinking

Congratulations to HH on her resounding victory

What slurs are you taking about?

All of them.  They've clearly served you well.

No no, don't run away. What have I said that is a slur?
"tankie" would it not be considered an insult?

Hurty word? Maybe. Slur? No.

Cmon Franko, let's have the slurs you mentioned.

I only need to go back a day or 2 to see you calling her a useful idiot

I stopped there, but I'm sure I'd turn up plenty more with the slightest effort

That do for you boss?

Again, it's not a slur if it's actually true.

Repeating Kremlin narratives for their reason for the invasion of Ukraine, makes CC a useful idiot.

An idiot for believing and perpetuating such rubbish.

And certainly useful to the Kremlin, Plenty like her in the west.

She's on record spouting this shite, her own words.

So keep digging 'boss', see if you can find an actual slur.

Franko

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 07:04:36 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 06:56:51 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:47:56 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2025, 04:30:00 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:23:12 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 04:17:58 PMGood to see that the endless slurs on Catherine Connolly by BotB and his ilk have definitely won hearts and minds and changed lots of people's thinking

Congratulations to HH on her resounding victory

What slurs are you taking about?

All of them.  They've clearly served you well.

No no, don't run away. What have I said that is a slur?
"tankie" would it not be considered an insult?

Hurty word? Maybe. Slur? No.

Cmon Franko, let's have the slurs you mentioned.

I only need to go back a day or 2 to see you calling her a useful idiot

I stopped there, but I'm sure I'd turn up plenty more with the slightest effort

That do for you boss?

Again, it's not a slur if it's actually true.

Repeating Kremlin narratives for their reason for the invasion of Ukraine, makes CC a useful idiot.

An idiot for believing and perpetuating such rubbish.

And certainly useful to the Kremlin, Plenty like her in the west.

She's on record spouting this shite, her own words.

So keep digging 'boss', see if you can find an actual slur.

I found one

You denied objective reality and said it wasn't one

What's the point of engaging in tiresome shit like that?

Given that CC is about to win this by a cricket score, how do you think this is going for you?

Do you think a change of strategy might be a plan for the next time?


Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 07:14:37 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 07:04:36 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 06:56:51 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:47:56 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2025, 04:30:00 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 04:24:09 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 04:23:12 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 24, 2025, 04:17:58 PMGood to see that the endless slurs on Catherine Connolly by BotB and his ilk have definitely won hearts and minds and changed lots of people's thinking

Congratulations to HH on her resounding victory

What slurs are you taking about?

All of them.  They've clearly served you well.

No no, don't run away. What have I said that is a slur?
"tankie" would it not be considered an insult?

Hurty word? Maybe. Slur? No.

Cmon Franko, let's have the slurs you mentioned.

I only need to go back a day or 2 to see you calling her a useful idiot

I stopped there, but I'm sure I'd turn up plenty more with the slightest effort

That do for you boss?

Again, it's not a slur if it's actually true.

Repeating Kremlin narratives for their reason for the invasion of Ukraine, makes CC a useful idiot.

An idiot for believing and perpetuating such rubbish.

And certainly useful to the Kremlin, Plenty like her in the west.

She's on record spouting this shite, her own words.

So keep digging 'boss', see if you can find an actual slur.

I found one

You denied objective reality and said it wasn't one

What's the point of engaging in tiresome shit like that?

Given that CC is about to win this by a cricket score, how do you think this is going for you?

Do you think a change of strategy might be a plan for the next time?



Sure 'boss', keep telling yourself that.

Not a single thing I said about CC is untrue. You're getting on like there were spurious allegations being made against her.

She is on record. Her own words condemn her.

And as a matter of fact, I don't recall anyone making any rebuttal of my criticism of CC. Merely, ..but look at HH, look what she did, she's worse. Two rubbish candidates in a two horse race.

And how is it going for me? Just fine. You think I'm bitterly disappointed I wasn't able to influence the outcome of the Irish presidential election?

CC will win the election. She'll continue to talk shite. I'll continue to call her out on it.




Snapchap

Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 07:53:05 PMNot a single thing I said about CC is untrue.

You falsely claimed that she didn't clap Zelensky, for one.

armaghniac

Quote from: Snapchap on October 24, 2025, 08:25:19 PM
Quote from: Banks of the Bann on October 24, 2025, 07:53:05 PMNot a single thing I said about CC is untrue.

You falsely claimed that she didn't clap Zelensky, for one.

She did, briefly, and then made an ostentatious gesture of stopping and sitting down.
She chose to provide niggardly applause when a brave man representing a people who had been attacked was in the Dáil. Disgusting time to make whatever sordid point she was trying to make.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Franko

#1196
Not much point in trying to rebut the argument of someone who will say black is white

Anyway, you continue your fight against CC.

You're doing a great job - proper sons of Roisin stuff

Atta boy

Blowitupref

#1197
national turnout at 8pm reported as 37.4% so probably slightly above what I was expecting come 10pm/closure.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Wildweasel74

Voting % from 24 - 44. Thats pathetic!

Wildweasel74

Sorry we just when 1 better on the news with 22%