Race for the ARAS 2025

[Armagh18]

About today's election .......
Will it reach 40% of the electorate?

Don't think do. I expect 35 to 38%

Not that it matters as decisions are made by those who vote but no doubt the Steen and similar factions will claim that up 80% of the people didn't vote for Connolly.

Well the 60% of people who didn't bother voting stick their yapping up their hole

[Armagh18]

can you point out where you said "that disability advocates did understand real disabilities"?

You did not say their advice should be sought  you said "disabled advocates should concentrate on is designing proper criteria to identify the genuine from the chancers". Disabled advocates now have to solve "chancers"

I didn't reverse what you said, you have articulated yourselves very well and second post is completly.different to what you said in the first..

What do you suggest is done about the chancers/bluffers?

[Hand of God]

About today's election .......
Will it reach 40% of the electorate?

Don't think do. I expect 35 to 38%

Not that it matters as decisions are made by those who vote but no doubt the Steen and similar factions will claim that up 80% of the people didn't vote for Connolly.

i think it will be closer than people think, I am very interested to see the spoilt vote above the norm and what areas of the country vote for each candidate.

While I don't think anything was wrong with how the 3 candidates were selected I would have liked to see more, and I believe more candidates would have reduced Connollys chances, something I would not like to see

Media are reporting that FFG figures are expecting Connolly to be hitting around 70% of valid votes.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

can you point out where you said "that disability advocates did understand real disabilities"?

You did not say their advice should be sought  you said "disabled advocates should concentrate on is designing proper criteria to identify the genuine from the chancers". Disabled advocates now have to solve "chancers"

I didn't reverse what you said, you have articulated yourselves very well and second post is completly.different to what you said in the first..

What do you suggest is done about the chancers/bluffers?

not my area of expertise either, if I was tasked with that, initially  I would consult with those who had the  expertise, alongside looking at data to determine the extent of the issue and also review similar countries etc. in Europe

[Hand of God]

can you point out where you said "that disability advocates did understand real disabilities"?

You did not say their advice should be sought  you said "disabled advocates should concentrate on is designing proper criteria to identify the genuine from the chancers". Disabled advocates now have to solve "chancers"

I didn't reverse what you said, you have articulated yourselves very well and second post is completly.different to what you said in the first..

What do you suggest is done about the chancers/bluffers?

I would suggest the govt have far bigger concerns than chasing welfare cheats.

[Armagh18]

can you point out where you said "that disability advocates did understand real disabilities"?

You did not say their advice should be sought  you said "disabled advocates should concentrate on is designing proper criteria to identify the genuine from the chancers". Disabled advocates now have to solve "chancers"

I didn't reverse what you said, you have articulated yourselves very well and second post is completly.different to what you said in the first..

What do you suggest is done about the chancers/bluffers?

I would suggest the govt have far bigger concerns than chasing welfare cheats.

No arguments there, but it's still an issue needing addressed.

[armaghniac]

can you point out where you said "that disability advocates did understand real disabilities"?

You did not say their advice should be sought  you said "disabled advocates should concentrate on is designing proper criteria to identify the genuine from the chancers". Disabled advocates now have to solve "chancers"

I didn't reverse what you said, you have articulated yourselves very well and second post is completly.different to what you said in the first..

What do you suggest is done about the chancers/bluffers?

I would suggest the govt have far bigger concerns than chasing welfare cheats.

No arguments there, but it's still an issue needing addressed.

It needs addressing for two reasons.
One it gets some money that can be used for a proper purpose
Two it reduces discouragement of people who are doing their bit

[Hand of God]

It needs addressing for two reasons.
One it gets some money that can be used for a proper purpose
Two it reduces discouragement of people who are doing their bit

Thinking housing and health needs far more addressing than targeting the poorest and most vulnerable.

There's a reason FFG governments target those on welfare in this way.

Can you see the issue with the mass deregulation FFG governments have overseen that led to a banking crisis, that led to billions in expense for crumbling houses in Donegal? The people responsible here by and large walked free from their crimes with millions in their bank account but the FFG governments made a very loud voice of pursuing working class people for welfare fraud.

A narrative has been pursued by neo liberal parties that it's the working class fraudster that we need to be wary off and not the bankers, lobbyists, MNCs etc. You subscribe to that.

Maybe if govts gave low income workers more rights, more protections, more pay then that might be a positive way to reduce welfare fraud. A lot of low income workers would nearly be no worse off on income - maybe fix that issue before moving onto welfare fraud?

[Armagh18]

It needs addressing for two reasons.
One it gets some money that can be used for a proper purpose
Two it reduces discouragement of people who are doing their bit

Thinking housing and health needs far more addressing than targeting the poorest and most vulnerable.

There's a reason FFG governments target those on welfare in this way.

Can you see the issue with the mass deregulation FFG governments have overseen that led to a banking crisis, that led to billions in expense for crumbling houses in Donegal? The people responsible here by and large walked free from their crimes with millions in their bank account but the FFG governments made a very loud voice of pursuing working class people for welfare fraud.

A narrative has been pursued by neo liberal parties that it's the working class fraudster that we need to be wary off and not the bankers, lobbyists, MNCs etc. You subscribe to that.

Maybe if govts gave low income workers more rights, more protections, more pay then that might be a positive way to reduce welfare fraud. A lot of low income workers would nearly be no worse off on income - maybe fix that issue before moving onto welfare fraud?

Why not do both

[Hand of God]

Why not do both

If you incentivised people from socially and economically deprived areas with the ability to work your way up and owning your home and putting your children through uni and escaping the poverty trap then your welfare recipients will diminish.

The state of the nation is that low income workers can work as hard as they want. They will state get gouged on an out of control rental market, they will still work about being able to keep the lights on, they will still worry about whether it's heat or eat. They'll never own their own home. That's the reality for many young working families today.

It wasn't always this way but neo-liberal policies have it as such. A guy down the road getting welfare illegitimately shouldn't worry you as much as an MNC or commercial landlords generating billions of money profits and barely paying any tax, bankers generating huge profits and massive bonuses for their senior managers as staff are being laid off etc.

[Franko]

Good to see that the endless slurs on Catherine Connolly by BotB and his ilk have definitely won hearts and minds and changed lots of people's thinking

Congratulations to HH on her resounding victory

[Banks of the Bann]

Good to see that the endless slurs on Catherine Connolly by BotB and his ilk have definitely won hearts and minds and changed lots of people's thinking

Congratulations to HH on her resounding victory

What slurs are you taking about?

[Franko]

Good to see that the endless slurs on Catherine Connolly by BotB and his ilk have definitely won hearts and minds and changed lots of people's thinking

Congratulations to HH on her resounding victory

What slurs are you taking about?

All of them.  They've clearly served you well.

[Banks of the Bann]

Good to see that the endless slurs on Catherine Connolly by BotB and his ilk have definitely won hearts and minds and changed lots of people's thinking

Congratulations to HH on her resounding victory

What slurs are you taking about?

All of them.  They've clearly served you well.

No no, don't run away. What have I said that is a slur?

[Armagh18]

Good to see that the endless slurs on Catherine Connolly by BotB and his ilk have definitely won hearts and minds and changed lots of people's thinking

Congratulations to HH on her resounding victory

What slurs are you taking about?

All of them.  They've clearly served you well.

No no, don't run away. What have I said that is a slur?

"tankie" would it not be considered an insult?