The far right

[Snapchap]

That's not how venn diagrams work.

I'm sure you knew his point though. What was it you were saying about being obtuse or pedantic once?

Of course I got his point. I don't recall anywhere where I said board members can't have a little fun though, do you?

Just you keep on jumping to the defence of lads who describe Kingsmill as necessary and think sub-Saharan immigrants from "places like Somalia" are "scum" while suggesting Ukrainian immigrants are "decent" people from a "civilised" country.

Now, I wonder if anyone could figure out why someone might be what could be labelled pro-immigration, or welcoming, or, at the very least, "not openly hostile" to Ukrainian immigrants/refugees but be so openly opposed to Somalians, expressing concern as to "god knows who or what we're getting." Anything you can think of? Strange bedfellow to make if you ask me, but each to their own.

Quite the rant!

Bedfellows? lol I was merely commenting on your pedantry, saying as you made an issue of it before. Paid absolutely no attention to who it was that made the ven diagram comment that you were replying to, and even less to their previous comments on Kingsmill or whatever else. So happy to say you can take the tinfoil hat off now.

[jmcgdoire]

Jesus, you northerners are obsessed with loyalists. You know, I used to want a united Ireland, but now I'm not so sure. Too many Palestinians. People IN THE SOUTH should be angry about the rape of a 10 year girl by someone who HAS NO RIGHT TO BE HERE. And what are these "sinister objectives" you're on about? Wanting people who have no right to be here, to not be here? Oooh. How dreadful.

The last time they rioted was when it was an immigrant who committed a heinous crime on a child when he had citizenship here.

Why don't these same thugs who use crimes against children by immigrants as an excuse for violence against immigrant communities do the same Irish men do similar.

The loyalists are your boodies are they not. Seems to be close links between Coolock says No and the UVF, no?
You seem to be advocating for an exceptionalism here.

No, that Algerian shouldn't have been here. He was turned down for asylum, and was given stay to remain as part of some amnesty. In other words, they just couldn't be bothered deporting him. If I remember right, he also had a conviction. This Somalian child rapist will now be kept here in jail at our taxpayers' expense, and could easily end up staying here under some similar amnesty, also. Which you, no doubt, would welcome.

Irish people that do similar are our problem to deal with. And they are dealt with. Sometimes not harshly enough, I admit. What do you advocate - that we deport them? Send them over to England? Isn't that what your 'boodies' in the 'RA used to do? Let our scumbags infest someone else?

I have nothing to do with Coolock Says No, and no - the loyalists and UVF are not my 'boodies'. Boodie. How are your 'boodies' in Hamas this weather, by the way?

You've created exceptionalism for rape victims. They are tiered in your eyes depending on whether it was a foreigner or a native that committed heinous crimes.

That is a logic of a deeply troubled person.

Can we agree that all rape is wrong and all criminals should be treated better.

Do you not think you'd be better served protesting for harsher sentencing for sex offenders, for more Gardai on your streets, for a more functional and resourced justice system and prison service than whipping up racial tensions?

Are you really that much of a bigot?

Ive never cared for this kind of attack on these rightwingers (in this case). Dont get me wrong, I take your point. But of course we can all agree all rape is wrong and we want to see all offenders locked up. I think this is a specific issue and the issue is that some of these attacks would be preventable if the government took a stronger stance on immigrants.

Think about the BLM protests. Were you saying "Black people are killing black people in america every day. Why do you only focus on when the white people / police officers commit the murders?" My guess is no you didnt say that (but if im wrong i apologise).

The point of that particular movement was: Yes, black on black crime is a massive issue. However we are focusing on this specific issue (police officers) because it is one we feel we can enact change. ... Or maybe all those protesters/rioters were just racists too.

[Wildweasel74]

There some new blow ins posters here just making a balls of a number of threads. Don't post much on actual fball mind you. So who's been banned not that long ago whos a new recarnation? Pity they could ban people of their IP addresses!!

[Rossfan]

The ignore function is a mighty thing.

[Main Street]

An Garda Síochána take a leaf out of Ali's "rope a dope".

 quotes from the Irish Times report

On Tuesday night in Citywest, Dublin, An Garda Síochána faced the biggest test of its public-order policing since the November 2023, city centre riots, when the organisation was badly exposed.
The Citywest riot was one of the most serious violent disorder incidents in the Republic in the modern era. But it seems the costly – and embarrassing – lessons of two years ago have been learned.
While a Garda van was burned out at Citywest, this was a public-order operation that saw the more than 300 gardaí present exert their dominance, at will, over up to 1,000 people, which included some described as "violent thugs".
The large protest group was afforded time by the Garda to become tired over a period of about an hour and a half, during which time backup policing resources were mustered and arrived.

Once that fatigue had set in among the crowd, and the rioters' supply of missiles and fireworks was exhausted, gardaí made their move.
That big formation (dogs, horses, water canon, Gardaí on horseback, vehicles) led by public-order gardaí on foot armed with riot shields and pepper spray – simply pressed and chased the crowd down Garter Lane and away from the IPAS centre campus. The moment the gardaí decided to move, the crowd was under their control and quickly dispersed.

[Hand of God]

The same old argument.

"The quinn family are being exploited"

"The raped child is being exploited"


Its a real doozy for Shinners.

Now they're caught between condemning far right thugs and apologia for child rapists.

Have you done any charity work in the "global south" ?

Another trolling post that doesn't address the substance. The fact you have taken umbrage at a consistent application of a moral stance is telling. An admission that you are a hypocrite is some own goal for you.

Exploiting victims in an insincere matter to pedal racist incitement or score political points is crass behaviour. You have done nothing to contend that other than launch into a tirade about "shinners" and condescending banal jibes  and inaccuracies.

Smear is a weapon you use.

You think that victims are fair game to be exploited as pawns to incite racial hatred and slinging political mud. That's the only thing I can take for your hostility and repeated lies and misrepresentations.

[Armagh18]

The same old argument.

"The quinn family are being exploited"

"The raped child is being exploited"


Its a real doozy for Shinners.

Now they're caught between condemning far right thugs and apologia for child rapists.

Have you done any charity work in the "global south" ?
 

Anyone with a brain can condemn the sc**bag who attacked that young girl, the idiots who are rioting and the system who let the girl down.

[Snapchap]

Its a real doozy for Shinners.

Now they're caught between condemning far right thugs and apologia for child rapists.

1. Are you seriously suggesting that if you are against violent far right rioters, you must then be a supporter of child rapists?

2. I do agree though that they are caught alright. Caught between standing up to the racists and standing with them and of late, they seem to be more concerned with standing with them. Mary Lou was quick out of the blocks on twitter defending the "deep community anger" but as of now, she has not posted a single tweet condeming the racist scumbags who who have been rioting for the last two nights. It's in a constituency with two SF TDs, and like Mary Lou, both have (rightly) tweeted their anger at the attack on the child, but shamefully, neither has tweeted a word about the riots. They are running scared of far right racists instead of taking the natural, historic republican position of standing firmly against them. Just another reason I've lost faith in them over the last year or two.

[Armagh18]

Its a real doozy for Shinners.

Now they're caught between condemning far right thugs and apologia for child rapists.

1. Are you seriously suggesting that if you are against violent far right rioters, you must then be a supporter of child rapists?

2. I do agree though that they are caught alright. Caught between standing up to the racists and standing with them and of late, they seem to be more concerned with standing with them. Mary Lou was quick out of the blocks on twitter defending the "deep community anger" but as of now, she has not posted a single tweet condeming the racist scumbags who who have been rioting for the last two nights. It's in a constituency with two SF TDs, and like Mary Lou, both have (rightly) tweeted their anger at the attack on the child, but shamefully, neither has tweeted a word about the riots. They are running scared of far right racists instead of taking the natural, historic republican position of standing firmly against them. Just another reason I've lost faith in them over the last year or two.

She's absolutely right to defend deep community anger. There'd be something wrong if the community wasn't angry at whats happened. But you're right she needs to condemn the far right idiots too.

[Rossfan]

Not just the idiot ones but the dangerous ones manipulating them too.
SF's manifesto last year sounded like the fkn "National Party" on refugees/immigration.

[Genocide Organ]

A lot of the rioters would probably be SF voters: that's their natural constituency. Honestly, have met a lot of people who think Sinn Fein is an 'Ireland First' nationalist party, and against mass immigration. They're shocked to find out it basically stands with antifa. But, yes - SF is caught trying to ride two horses at the same time. Again.

[Rossfan]

What is it with some Poles?

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/1023/1540090-shaykh-dr-umar-al-qadri/

[Armagh18]

A lot of the rioters would probably be SF voters: that's their natural constituency. Honestly, have met a lot of people who think Sinn Fein is an 'Ireland First' nationalist party, and against mass immigration. They're shocked to find out it basically stands with antifa. But, yes - SF is caught trying to ride two horses at the same time. Again.

Their problem is that it's impossible with social media to have a balanced view.

They can't criticise the immigration policy without being labelled far right or can't say immigrants contribute positively without being labelled far left globalists.

[trueblue1234]

The problem is that with the vocal extremes on both sides, if your anyway in the middle it can seem that your trying to ride two horses at once. When the case might be you believe there's valid elements to both sides rather than a right and wrong side.

[Armagh18]

The problem is that with the vocal extremes on both sides, if your anyway in the middle it can seem that your trying to ride two horses at once. When the case might be you believe there's valid elements to both sides rather than a right and wrong side.

100%. You should be allowed to say idiots setting things on fire outside the Citywest are wrong and also say that a system that allowed that sc**bag to attack that child is also wrong, without being accused of taking a side.