Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[3_up_breach]

I see this North Tyrone Coaching programme is taking place, no disrespect to the clubs taking part in it, but surely it's a bit condescending to the clubs in north Tyrone that they're being told how to coach their teams, I know a lot of excellent coaches who are from these clubs, I can't see how the lack of knowledge is a problem?
Clubs need to be run properly, right people in the right places, regardless of who likes who or who is related to who, the ability of club committees to run their clubs properly and ensure they are getting the right people involved, isn't going to be sorted by a North Tyrone coaching programme...
Sensible people in the club committees is something the successful clubs tend to be able to get right...

It's not really condescending. All north Tyrone teams bar aghyaran and Owen rows play junior football. Something needs to change, if you watch some of those teams play it is evident that players are nowhere near the standard of decent sides both skills wise or conditioning. Coaching guys how to properly prepare and develop players is a forward step.

What is condescending is saying that none of these clubs have anybody sensible involved in their committee.

To make the argument that a team and club are struggling because of their committee rather than the fact half the lads playing are filling out jerseys in the wrong areas is just plain stupid.

I'm sure you've heard the term junior club mentality, it's a true fact, and not a geographical problem...
Hope you get reelected at the AGM next month btw

It does seem to be a geographical problem though. You'd think all these excellent coaches in north Tyrone that you speak of would maybe share their knowledge instead of keeping it to themselves. None of these team have 5 or more guys in any sort of shape to play football. Maybe start there. If you mentioned barbell to some of the urney lads they'd probably think it was a bit of cheese in red wax FFS.

Derrytresk, Brackaville, Brocagh, Killyman...a few cheese experts possibly in these 3B clubs, a fair dander to North Tyrone no?

It's extremely important who is steering your club, you need coaches involved who know how to condition a team, age specific training is delivered, to do this you have to move away from the mindset of getting all your mates to coach teams, this mentality is killing teams, not just in north Tyrone...
Strange how this programme has a lot of the sessions delivered by coaches from north Tyrone clubs, and some of them aren't even coaches...

Personalities are the biggest problem in most clubs, the ones who let it impact them to the detriment of their players and teams, are the ones with the junior club mentality, as stated, this is most definitely not a geographical issue.

A lot of these clubs coaches aren't the issue, football is a numbers game and when they might have 10 landing to training no coach will be able to get a proper session in.
Clubs in 3b need to take the senior team out of focus and focus on youth for a number of years, only way to get proggression into the seniors then

My point is a very similar one, no point in clubs paying a fortune for an outside manager, hoping he's going to perform a miracle, when the supply you have coming into your senior team from underage, is poorly coached and poorly prepared from a discipline perspective, to play adult football...
I'm referring to getting coaches in place at underage level who are competent, the family and friends approach is killing a lot of clubs, not specifically north Tyrone clubs.
Your chairman, coaching officer, or whoever it is that's appointing coaches to the underage teams, need to want the right people in these positions, if they just put their mates and relatives in then that's what I mean by junior club mentality...decisions need to be made with the best interest of the club in mind, getting it right at underage is a must if you want to progress as a club.

Agreed majority of the clubs down there are mostly made up from the one family, if anyone outside shows an opinion a fall out will be caused, everything ends up taking a step backwards cause change is requested. Some clubs have broke this Fintona being one of them all though they are back in junior after a bad year. They are consistently now in grade 1 and 2 in every underage team now. No players now coming into a senior team for them has ever played grade 3 football this makes a huge difference as they have a winning mentality. Starts from the top this though chairman and coaches all focusing on the youth. There are a few other clubs in the county doing this also.

Would have to agree with you there as many Junior clubs are stuck in this cycle of mediocrity due to the lobbying of power through families in these clubs. Fintona is a great example of a Junior club who are attempting to break this cycle as they remind me of Loughmacrory in the early 2010s when they were relegated to Junior, as they began to buy into youth development aswell as restructuring within the club. Youth players for the Pearses such as the Coltons (Peter, Eugene and Oliver) and others like young Maguire and Goodman will prove to be the difference within the next 5/10 years as they will be pushing for the intermediate championship and potientally re enter the first tier.

Agree with this completely. That maguire fella I hear is promising and has gone completely under the radar. I hear he is paret of the macrory cup team for omagh along with numerous other pearses men.

[Themanupnorth]

Predictions for the weekend:

Lough vs carmen- carmen take this by 2. Experience wins it.

Coalisland vs moy- moy, think the 5/6 week lay off for coalisland will play a factor having the moy only having 2 weeks.

Clogher vs drumragh- clogher by 3 in an high scoring contest.

Clonoe vs eglish- eglish, Clonoe haven't been at it at all in the championship while Eglish have beat the teams who have came 4th, 5th and 2nd.
They should deserve to win after this run

[Bring back kellys inn]

Some of youse new guys need to keep your opinions to yourself sometimes

[Hughie McMahon]

By the looks of things here there has just been a Fintona takeover on the board. Maybe the Fintona lads should stick to their football for now and maybe in 4/5 years team when they're competing in the intermediate division they can enter back into the board and give it the big'in. As for the comments above regarding Fintonas youth coming through, it'll be interesting to see some of the the lads playing and see where they can take Fintona, the likes of them lads that were on the Tyrone minor squad. As for the others... players like "Maguire" and "The Hoach" as far as I'm aware that is what he is called in and around Fintona, forget it, there's no point spreading false rumours. Heard your lad Maguire is lining out for Omagh hurlers!! As for this hoach man they speak off, wouldn't even waste my breath. If you're not in the board to talk sense... get out to f*ck.

[Bring back kellys inn]

I see some Carrickmore men still arent over there two minor final defeats

[Hughie McMahon]

I see some Carrickmore men still arent over there two minor final defeats

"There"... Another year in the brothers would have done you no harm.

[Bring back kellys inn]

Predictions for the weekend:

Lough vs carmen- carmen take this by 2. Experience wins it.

Coalisland vs moy- moy, think the 5/6 week lay off for coalisland will play a factor having the moy only having 2 weeks.

Clogher vs drumragh- clogher by 3 in an high scoring contest.

Clonoe vs eglish- eglish, Clonoe haven't been at it at all in the championship while Eglish have beat the teams who have came 4th, 5th and 2nd.
They should deserve to win after this run

In terms of the intermediate final, I find it hard to look past Clonoe. You dont always get what you deserve in football.
What about injury lists for the game, is there any truth to Shea Coney being out?

[Mountfield Munter]

Top 5 county finals of the last 20 years?

[Hughie McMahon]

Top 5 county finals of the last 20 years?

2020 - Dungannon v Trillick (1-12 - 1-12 AET 8-7 penalties)
2016 - Coalisland v Killyclogher (Drawn game - 1-13 - 0-16)
2006 - Errigal Ciaran v Carrickmore (Drawn game - 0-12 - 1-09)
2023 - Trllick v Errigal Ciaran (1-13 - 0-13 AET)
2009 - Dromore v Ardboe (1-14 - 1-13)
HM: 2022 - Errigal Ciaran v Carrickmore (2-11 - 1-12)

[ShoresOfTyrone]

Predictions for the weekend:

Lough vs Carmen- Lough if they aren't as wasteful in front of goal, felt in the first encounter they took a lot of the wrong options at times.

Coalisland vs Moy- Moy, think it'll be tight but will opt for Moy.

Clogher vs Drumragh- Drumragh if they can keep Ciaran Bogue fairly contained, they have a handy inside forward line and strong in the middle.

Clonoe vs Eglish- Eglish, fancied them from the start of the year so will stick with them now.

[Bestchampoinireland]

Predictions for the weekend:

Lough vs Carmen- Lough if they aren't as wasteful in front of goal, felt in the first encounter they took a lot of the wrong options at times.

Coalisland vs Moy- Moy, think it'll be tight but will opt for Moy.

Clogher vs Drumragh- Drumragh if they can keep Ciaran Bogue fairly contained, they have a handy inside forward line and strong in the middle.

Clonoe vs Eglish- Eglish, fancied them from the start of the year so will stick with them now.

Not sure about Clogher feel like they don't have the defenders will the youngest Maguire come in to replace his brother out with the foot mini nige I think the call him heard he was not a forward at all shooting ban someone told me. As for Clogher should tear through them Drumragh defence as useful as a knitted condom.

Eglish should do the business. Strong side.

Have went with always back the draw for tonight's action think we could see penalties.

As always. Best champo in Ireland.

[TheGlenellyGremlin]

Martin Conroy must've been picked out of a hat to ref that game tonight. Brutal referee, can't understand how he ever got a senior semi final replay

[RedHand88]

Martin Conroy must've been picked out of a hat to ref that game tonight. Brutal referee, can't understand how he ever got a senior semi final replay

You'd be unreal yourself.

[PastThePost]

Martin Conroy must've been picked out of a hat to ref that game tonight. Brutal referee, can't understand how he ever got a senior semi final replay

You'd be unreal yourself.

Always thought Conroy was one of the better refs to be honest

[snowy2hunt]

Conroy is one of the  better Referee's I would have no problem him doing any of our  club  youth & Senior games