Down Club Hurling & Football

Started by Lecale2, November 10, 2006, 12:06:55 AM

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knowbetter

If we all want to be truthful with ourselves then we should realise that the current hurling championship format works but the teams in intermediate should probably be in junior.

No disrespect to any club but it must be tough to play the intermediate round robin and then on to play a team coming down from senior who have always won it the last couple of years.

I think both Ballela and Warrenpoint will give it a rattle but Liatroim and Carryduff should win by 10+ points each, they are simply playing and competing at a higher level with more numbers.

I would have the senior championship as is with the 6 teams and the bottom two play for intermediate. The rest in Junior and if some of the lower teams are unhappy with this then create a Junior B. This would mean all teams representing down in ulster are actually fit to compete and challenge for their respective titles. We've always struggled in ulster across the board expect for Liatroim a couple years back.

DuffGael

Quote from: knowbetter on October 02, 2025, 12:49:33 AMIf we all want to be truthful with ourselves then we should realise that the current hurling championship format works but the teams in intermediate should probably be in junior.

No disrespect to any club but it must be tough to play the intermediate round robin and then on to play a team coming down from senior who have always won it the last couple of years.

I think both Ballela and Warrenpoint will give it a rattle but Liatroim and Carryduff should win by 10+ points each, they are simply playing and competing at a higher level with more numbers.

I would have the senior championship as is with the 6 teams and the bottom two play for intermediate. The rest in Junior and if some of the lower teams are unhappy with this then create a Junior B. This would mean all teams representing down in ulster are actually fit to compete and challenge for their respective titles. We've always struggled in ulster across the board expect for Liatroim a couple years back.

Agree totally with this

Truth hurts

Would it make sense for the county board to reschedule the Carryduff and Burren game for Saturday or Monday in light of the weather warning for tomorrow night?

ardtole

Quote from: knowbetter on October 02, 2025, 12:49:33 AMIf we all want to be truthful with ourselves then we should realise that the current hurling championship format works but the teams in intermediate should probably be in junior.

No disrespect to any club but it must be tough to play the intermediate round robin and then on to play a team coming down from senior who have always won it the last couple of years.

I think both Ballela and Warrenpoint will give it a rattle but Liatroim and Carryduff should win by 10+ points each, they are simply playing and competing at a higher level with more numbers.

I would have the senior championship as is with the 6 teams and the bottom two play for intermediate. The rest in Junior and if some of the lower teams are unhappy with this then create a Junior B. This would mean all teams representing down in ulster are actually fit to compete and challenge for their respective titles. We've always struggled in ulster across the board expect for Liatroim a couple years back.


What competition would the previous year's winners of the JHC compete in? Surely they can't be locked in junior forever, there needs to be a tangible path of progression.

ck

Quote from: Truth hurts on October 02, 2025, 09:08:04 AMWould it make sense for the county board to reschedule the Carryduff and Burren game for Saturday or Monday in light of the weather warning for tomorrow night?

It definitely would be wise to move it to Sat night at 8pm.
Should be a cracking game. Big word coming from Carryduff that they're on a mission, I guess we've heard it before from them but can they deliver this time, probably last chance for them.

Aristo 60


knowbetter

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What competition would the previous year's winners of the JHC compete in? Surely they can't be locked in junior forever, there needs to be a tangible path of progression.
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I'm not saying keep this format forever but with the current teams and there standards I'd say its the most adequate.

At present I'd have 8 teams in Junior with 2 groups of 4. Top two in each jump into junior A semis and bottom 4 compete for junior B.

Overall winners progresses into the senior the next year, they obviously wont win but the exposure and the fact its senior might bring them on and they can still compete for the intermediate. Repeat this for a couple years to bring teams on then and maybe have 8 teams in senior with the two groups of 4. Top 4 senior, bottom 4 intermediate.

As it stands the intermediate isn't taken too seriously because one of the teams dropping from senior will basically win. A lot of the games in the round robin feel like reserve friendly's from what I've seen.

downtothecore

Quote from: ck on October 02, 2025, 05:51:35 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 02, 2025, 09:08:04 AMWould it make sense for the county board to reschedule the Carryduff and Burren game for Saturday or Monday in light of the weather warning for tomorrow night?

It definitely would be wise to move it to Sat night at 8pm.
Should be a cracking game. Big word coming from Carryduff that they're on a mission, I guess we've heard it before from them but can they deliver this time, probably last chance for them.
The game should be moved to sat or Monday night. It's a a hard one to call. Both teams a mission to put the failures of previous years to bed.

ardtole

I see Fermamagh county board have rearranged both sfc semi finals scheduled for tonight, and they will take place on Sunday instead.

johnnycool

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Carryduff v Burren is now on Sunday.

1:30PM in Pairc Esler I presume.

Lowintotheforwards

Quote from: knowbetter on October 02, 2025, 11:59:28 PMWhat competition would the previous year's winners of the JHC compete in? Surely they can't be locked in junior forever, there needs to be a tangible path of progression.

I'm not saying keep this format forever but with the current teams and there standards I'd say its the most adequate.

At present I'd have 8 teams in Junior with 2 groups of 4. Top two in each jump into junior A semis and bottom 4 compete for junior B.

Overall winners progresses into the senior the next year, they obviously wont win but the exposure and the fact its senior might bring them on and they can still compete for the intermediate. Repeat this for a couple years to bring teams on then and maybe have 8 teams in senior with the two groups of 4. Top 4 senior, bottom 4 intermediate.

As it stands the intermediate isn't taken too seriously because one of the teams dropping from senior will basically win. A lot of the games in the round robin feel like reserve friendly's from what I've seen.
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That makes a lot of sense.

Granto

Quote from: johnnycool on October 03, 2025, 02:25:59 PMCarryduff v Burren is now on Sunday.

1:30PM in Pairc Esler I presume.

What's the verdict for the two semi finals tomorrow folks?

Mourne Red

Ardglass vs Kilclief in the Junior final.. I'd Kilclirf nowhere near getting to the final, be an interesting final with it being a Derby. Hopefully Ardglass can get over the line been togging away well last couple years.

Be even better

Kilclief going well short odds for a Junior double??

ardtole

It would make sense to play the jfc final in Downpatrick.