Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/4a6e4781-eec5-4ee9-9a12-c683bb576fa8

Israeli Defence Minister Katz said that if the militant group did not agree to Israel's terms for ending the war — which includes surrendering and releasing all the remaining hostages it holds in the strip — "they will be destroyed and Gaza will be destroyed".

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on September 10, 2025, 01:13:01 PMhttps://www.ft.com/content/4a6e4781-eec5-4ee9-9a12-c683bb576fa8

Israeli Defence Minister Katz said that if the militant group did not agree to Israel's terms for ending the war — which includes surrendering and releasing all the remaining hostages it holds in the strip — "they will be destroyed and Gaza will be destroyed".

Gaza is destroyed already...

I'd say these people would need to be looking over their shoulders their entire life considering the carnage they have reeked
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

LC

Quote from: seafoid on September 10, 2025, 01:13:01 PMhttps://www.ft.com/content/4a6e4781-eec5-4ee9-9a12-c683bb576fa8

Israeli Defence Minister Katz said that if the militant group did not agree to Israel's terms for ending the war — which includes surrendering and releasing all the remaining hostages it holds in the strip — "they will be destroyed and Gaza will be destroyed".

This has been the plan from day 1, the hostages was only a very loose justification.

Rossfan

Of course it was LC.
I'd be pretty confident they let the Hamas invasion happen too so they had a good excuse for going to town on Gaza.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Armagh18

Quote from: Rossfan on September 10, 2025, 01:27:25 PMOf course it was LC.
I'd be pretty confident they let the Hamas invasion happen too so they had a good excuse for going to town on Gaza.
There's 0 doubt about that in my mind. And grossly inflated the damage done by Hamas that day.

Is there any chance any of the hostages are still alive?

seafoid


https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2025/09/10/sean-moran-three-major-issues-erupt-on-a-tumbleweed-weekend/

The GAA established its Ethics and Integrity Committee earlier this year and at the weekend, the commercial partnership with German-based finance company Allianz was referred to it.

One of the longest surviving sponsorships in Irish sport – going back to 1993 and former subsidiary Church and General's link with the national leagues – the Allianz link now includes both league and football championship.

This action followed widespread disquiet at the revelation in a UN report in July that a subsidiary of the company was complicit in Israel's genocide in Gaza, having invested large sums in shares and bonds linked to Israel's occupation.

The report was published on the website of the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights at the UN and alleged that Allianz helped "to sustain and pay for Israel's actions in the Palestinian territories".

A public protest by prominent GAA members, including Meath's Colm O'Rourke and Dublin's Dr David Hickey, in August called on the GAA to sever links with the sponsor.

It would be easy to despair at the powerlessness of the viewer, faced with the daily, televised horrors of this genocide, but discontinuing the sponsorship would be one way of distancing the membership from that particular complicity.


Allianz in Ireland are acknowledged as good sponsors and are on board until 2030, but as one leading official said, "it's not a good look".

And it doesn't leave the Ethics and Integrity Committee much choice.

armaghniac

Quote from: drillsergeant on September 09, 2025, 07:21:10 PMFor today's attacks on Doha - Israeli Jets would had to fly over Arab airspace, possibly Saudi? When can these countries not allow Israeli to use there air space?

Presumably, the Saudis should say to the US - if you want a base here then provide us with anti-aircraft defence that can identify and shoot down any foreign warplanes that cross our territory.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

armaghniac

Quote from: seafoid on September 10, 2025, 04:00:58 PMAllianz in Ireland are acknowledged as good sponsors and are on board until 2030, but as one leading official said, "it's not a good look".

And it doesn't leave the Ethics and Integrity Committee much choice.

I think if the UN mention someone in a report, then the GAA has to investigate.
However, the GAA should not act hastily. The EU is now moving against Israel to some extent, Allianz HQ might well pull back from the controversial investments and it would be unwise to discontinue the links with the Irish operation if Allianz was going to discontinue anyway,
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/4bf8c3cb-5c2c-4f73-a6d0-f439857bb971

Israel is able to do pretty much anything. They have the military means, the political will and the US political cover, so they are much more willing to take risks regardless of the ramifications," said Emile Hokayem at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London. "Fortress Israel may be fine in the short term, but they are shaking and disrupting the region like no other actor has in the recent past."

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/4bf8c3cb-5c2c-4f73-a6d0-f439857bb971

Israel is coming across as someone who has gone crazy, in order to persuade the Arabs — and Turkey too — that we have the capability to act, and if our conditions are not met . . . then we are liable to act," said Ely Karmon, an Israeli terrorism researcher at Reichman University. The risk, Karmon says, is that Israel becomes increasingly isolated in the region and jeopardises what ties it has in the Arab world. "Acting like the neighbourhood bully . . . is useful. But only up to a point."

DaleCooper

As Moshe Dayan said, Israel must be like a mad dog in order to strike fear into its enemies.

Netanyahu took that literally, I remember when Ariel Sharon was seen as a total monster. Bibi makes him look positively reasonable.

seafoid

Israel has too many enemies. Warmongering is for losers.

seafoid

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/us/2025/09/10/right-wing-commentator-charlie-kirk-shot-at-event-in-utah/
Charlie Kirk was murdered for speaking truth and defending freedom," said Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu. "A lion-hearted friend of Israel, he fought the lies and stood tall for Judeo-Christian civilization. I spoke to him only two weeks ago and invited him to Israel. Sadly, that visit will not take place. We lost an incredible human being. His boundless pride in America and his valiant belief in free speech will leave a lasting impact."
https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2025/08/15/germanys-israel-pivot-is-raising-fears-among-jewish-residents/

To shore up their position, they took implicit German historical obligations – to defend Israel's security and its continued existence – and added an explicit label: Staatsräson, or reason of state.
With Germany's previously unconditional support of Israel now conditional, previous critics of the Staaträson term – and its logic – have now co-opted both.
"If you stand for Israel's security and continued existence, you cannot be for Israel's conquest of Gaza," said Prof Moshe Zimmermann, an Israeli historian, on German public television.
In the week since the Merz pivot, curious things are happening – even to the pro-Israeli Bild. Previously the tabloid printed no pictures from inside Gaza – except those it denounced as Hamas propaganda.
This week it juxtaposed an image of the ruins of Gaza with 1945 Dresden – a comparison many readers supported

DaleCooper

"Judeo Christian" must be the silliest term ever to exist

seafoid

Quote from: DaleCooper on September 11, 2025, 10:16:54 AM"Judeo Christian" must be the silliest term ever to exist
It's a Evangelical Christian Zionist and Zionist term. Most of what Netanyahu says is bollocks.