Things that make you go What the F**k?

Started by The Real Laoislad, November 19, 2007, 05:54:25 PM

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Armagh18

Quote from: LC on August 14, 2025, 03:10:40 PMBeen reading some of the news bulletins on line re the A-Level result especially some of the courses they are planning to do at Uni.

To say a few of these courses are complete bullsh#t would be an understatement.

Unfortunately the penny will only drop for a lot of them down the line when they are £30k in debt.
Is there a single job that learning wouldn't be far more effective through apprenticeships and learning on the job with one or 2 days a week in classes?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Armagh18 on August 14, 2025, 03:58:31 PM
Quote from: LC on August 14, 2025, 03:10:40 PMBeen reading some of the news bulletins on line re the A-Level result especially some of the courses they are planning to do at Uni.

To say a few of these courses are complete bullsh#t would be an understatement.

Unfortunately the penny will only drop for a lot of them down the line when they are £30k in debt.
Is there a single job that learning wouldn't be far more effective through apprenticeships and learning on the job with one or 2 days a week in classes?

Surgeons for sure, would hate to be on the table when they are learning on the job lol


To be fair there are hundreds of courses that would be better while in employment and doing two day course at a type of college..

My daughter did Criminology and no telling her at the time that it's complete bullshite and would amount to just a degree, in fairness after she done it, she said I was right ;D so there's that!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

LC

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2025, 04:07:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 14, 2025, 03:58:31 PM
Quote from: LC on August 14, 2025, 03:10:40 PMBeen reading some of the news bulletins on line re the A-Level result especially some of the courses they are planning to do at Uni.

To say a few of these courses are complete bullsh#t would be an understatement.

Unfortunately the penny will only drop for a lot of them down the line when they are £30k in debt.
Is there a single job that learning wouldn't be far more effective through apprenticeships and learning on the job with one or 2 days a week in classes?

Surgeons for sure, would hate to be on the table when they are learning on the job lol


To be fair there are hundreds of courses that would be better while in employment and doing two day course at a type of college..

My daughter did Criminology and no telling her at the time that it's complete bullshite and would amount to just a degree, in fairness after she done it, she said I was right ;D so there's that!


Agree 100%, HLAs seem to be the way to go.

Duine Inteacht Eile

You're a long time working too. May as well go and have the craic and drink like a fish for a few years beforehand.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2025, 04:10:26 PMYou're a long time working too. May as well go and have the craic and drink like a fish for a few years beforehand.

Aye and rack up £25 grand debt!

The covid period was an absolute joke with regards classes and then strikes and Halls, got some money back for that though..
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

AustinPowers

Quote from: LC on August 14, 2025, 03:10:40 PMBeen reading some of the news bulletins on line re the A-Level result especially some of the courses they are planning to do at Uni.

To say a few of these courses are complete bullsh#t would be an understatement.

Unfortunately the penny will only drop for a lot of them down the line when they are £30k in debt.

Universities are a business,  it's all about income. That's why   there's lots of   Mickey mouse courses. Unfortunately a lot of youngsters  do  a lot of these Mickey mouse courses ,  unaware they're  wasting their time

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2025, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2025, 04:10:26 PMYou're a long time working too. May as well go and have the craic and drink like a fish for a few years beforehand.

Aye and rack up £25 grand debt!

The covid period was an absolute joke with regards classes and then strikes and Halls, got some money back for that though..
I 100% get it. Financially, and through the sensible, miserable, middle aged lens, it makes little sense. But who gives a fcuk about that at 18? You'd hardly see that money anyway.

DaleCooper

Imagine gifting £25k business loans to kids who qualify. The legacy of Blair and the schools system keeping parents bamboozled.

All in all it does boil down to parents having cop on, its so important if they have a clue or even better a way in. Friend of mine met at uni his dad lectured, guess what hes doing now?

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2025, 05:02:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2025, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2025, 04:10:26 PMYou're a long time working too. May as well go and have the craic and drink like a fish for a few years beforehand.

Aye and rack up £25 grand debt!

The covid period was an absolute joke with regards classes and then strikes and Halls, got some money back for that though..
I 100% get it. Financially, and through the sensible, miserable, middle aged lens, it makes little sense. But who gives a fcuk about that at 18? You'd hardly see that money anyway.
But also through that lens, having done it myself, I have encouraged the children to go and live the full university experience as before you know it you're up to your eyeballs in relationships, working 9-5, mortgages, bills etc. for the next 30-40 years.

BigGreenField

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2025, 05:02:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2025, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2025, 04:10:26 PMYou're a long time working too. May as well go and have the craic and drink like a fish for a few years beforehand.

Aye and rack up £25 grand debt!

The covid period was an absolute joke with regards classes and then strikes and Halls, got some money back for that though..
I 100% get it. Financially, and through the sensible, miserable, middle aged lens, it makes little sense. But who gives a fcuk about that at 18? You'd hardly see that money anyway.

Setting aside the broadening minds, developing perspective, sowing oats, learning to interact with the world etc 30k for 3 years of getting a lot of crazy out of the system is a decent bargain.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: BigGreenField on August 14, 2025, 05:07:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2025, 05:02:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2025, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2025, 04:10:26 PMYou're a long time working too. May as well go and have the craic and drink like a fish for a few years beforehand.

Aye and rack up £25 grand debt!

The covid period was an absolute joke with regards classes and then strikes and Halls, got some money back for that though..
I 100% get it. Financially, and through the sensible, miserable, middle aged lens, it makes little sense. But who gives a fcuk about that at 18? You'd hardly see that money anyway.

Setting aside the broadening minds, developing perspective, sowing oats, learning to interact with the world etc 30k for 3 years of getting a lot of crazy out of the system is a decent bargain.

As opposed to doing the same thing with my mates who went to college and working at the same time with no debt.

I also encouraged them to enjoy it.. and I don't begrudge the rent, spending money flights visits and whatever hidden costs (continued) that have arisen from it  :o
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Mourne Red

Quote from: BigGreenField on August 14, 2025, 05:07:24 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2025, 05:02:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2025, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2025, 04:10:26 PMYou're a long time working too. May as well go and have the craic and drink like a fish for a few years beforehand.

Aye and rack up £25 grand debt!

The covid period was an absolute joke with regards classes and then strikes and Halls, got some money back for that though..
I 100% get it. Financially, and through the sensible, miserable, middle aged lens, it makes little sense. But who gives a fcuk about that at 18? You'd hardly see that money anyway.

Setting aside the broadening minds, developing perspective, sowing oats, learning to interact with the world etc 30k for 3 years of getting a lot of crazy out of the system is a decent bargain.

Youse put the interest on me so logged into my student finance.. Graduated 10 years out of Uni there this month. Left with £36k of debt just the 27k left 😅

Was the first year with the hike (9k fees) as I went to LJMU. Tech job and done a Computing course, bar SQL I don't think I use anything I learned in Uni.. Just another 20 years and it's wiped off

Armagh18

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2025, 04:10:26 PMYou're a long time working too. May as well go and have the craic and drink like a fish for a few years beforehand.
Well thats true as well.

HLA's are getting more and more popular.

gawa316

I had a bit of debt coming out of Uni...moved to the states and the feckers still found me!

I'll be wanting my kids to leave Uni with no debt...don't want to start the trend of debt is okay (bar a mortgage). I know out here there is a gazillion scholarships to apply for, couple with part-time job and living at home, should enable that.

Armagh18

Only good thing is it doesnt affect your credit score. The interest rates on it are a f**king robbery though.