All Ireland Championship 2025.

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galwayman

Quote from: tonto1888 on June 23, 2025, 09:13:03 AM
Quote from: Gael80 on June 23, 2025, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 23, 2025, 08:58:50 AMPretty much nailed on it'll be:

Saturday

Galway v Meath
Dublin v Tyrone

Sunday

Donegal v monaghan
Armagh v Kerry

Jimmy whinging matches will get his way, the 6 day turnaround should have to be sucked up and accepted for finishing 2nd or 3rd in the group.

I think Galway and Donegal will get the 7 days. Kerry have previously played on a Saturday but not the second game of a double header.

My guess

Saturday:

Armagh v Kerry
Tyrone v Dublin

Sunday:

Monaghan v Donegal
Meath v Galway

GAAGO/RTE have agreed chanages previously so it's possible they'll both agree to show one game a day.

Both days would be close to 70 thousand with those games. Meath will have a bigger crowd than Dublin next weekend.

the year Galway beat us on pens Kerry were the second game, I have a feeling that was a Saturday
That double header was a Sunday.

David McKeown

Quote from: APM on June 23, 2025, 09:26:29 AMGalway shouldn't stand for a 6 day turnaround and you would never hear the end of McGuinness' moaning if they put Donegal / Monaghan on the Saturday.

I didn't hear any complaints from Galway about Down having a day less last week or Cavan only having a six day turnaround.

Similarly no complaints about the back to back weekends in the Group stages etc.

Only fair thing is luck of the draw.

Would Tyrone be entitled to complain about a 13 day turnaround when Armagh have a 14 day one?
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Armagh18

Quote from: Gael80 on June 23, 2025, 09:55:00 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 23, 2025, 09:44:35 AM
Quote from: straightred on June 23, 2025, 09:19:24 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 23, 2025, 08:58:50 AMPretty much nailed on it'll be:

Saturday

Galway v Meath
Dublin v Tyrone

Sunday

Donegal v monaghan
Armagh v Kerry

Jimmy whinging matches will get his way, the 6 day turnaround should have to be sucked up and accepted for finishing 2nd or 3rd in the group.

Leaving the whinging out it this is easy to sort out. Play the Dublin and Kerry games on Saturday and the other 2 on the Sunday. Galway and Donegal should both get 7 days or neither should get it. I doubt that any combination of 2 matches will sell out anyway so the crowd argument doesn't come into it
If Armagh and Dublin games were on together you'd imagine a sell out be close?

Yes. For Sunday though Galway and Donegal brought 60 thousand to Croke Park last season. Add Meath's Leinster Final crowd and it could challenge the Saturday attendance if the Armagh and Dublin games are together.
Yeah I reckon at least 7 of the teams will bring decent crowds, maybe even Kerry as well if they listen to Cliffords call.

Rossfan

Quote from: thewobbler on June 23, 2025, 09:13:46 AM70,000 people?

Not a chance in hell.
Dublin v Tyrone c35k
Armagh v Kerry c30k
Donegal v Monaghan 20k?
Galway v Meath 25k?
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

JoG2

Quote from: omagh_gael on June 23, 2025, 08:58:50 AMPretty much nailed on it'll be:

Saturday

Galway v Meath
Dublin v Tyrone

Sunday

Donegal v monaghan
Armagh v Kerry

Jimmy whinging matches will get his way, the 6 day turnaround should have to be sucked up and accepted for finishing 2nd or 3rd in the group.

Jimmy McGirnness

APM

Quote from: David McKeown on June 23, 2025, 09:56:41 AM
Quote from: APM on June 23, 2025, 09:26:29 AMGalway shouldn't stand for a 6 day turnaround and you would never hear the end of McGuinness' moaning if they put Donegal / Monaghan on the Saturday.

I didn't hear any complaints from Galway about Down having a day less last week or Cavan only having a six day turnaround.

Similarly no complaints about the back to back weekends in the Group stages etc.

Only fair thing is luck of the draw.

Would Tyrone be entitled to complain about a 13 day turnaround when Armagh have a 14 day one?

It's the third week in a row to be fair  and by putting the Dubs and Kerry on the Saturday all the teams that played this weekend get the same turnaround. The only reason to put either Donegal or Galway on the Saturday would be related to balancing out the crowds.

Cunny Funt

Quote from: APM on June 23, 2025, 09:51:57 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 23, 2025, 09:43:44 AM
Quote from: mup on June 23, 2025, 08:57:47 AMCan't call three of those games. Galway will beat Meath even with their injuries.

Three Ulster teams should reach the last four and lucky Galway will find a way to fall over the line.

Is this not a game too far for Galway?Think the extra games have suited Kerry But Galway needed a handy game last week and they had another battle to the end. Meath are still a bit of an unknown quantity but if any other of the remaining teams won all their group games and beat Kerry & the Dubs in the championship, they'd be definite favourites.

Armagh v Kerry boils down to Armagh limiting Clifford's influence and the way they are defending I wouldn't count on it. If they can win midfield and cut off the supply, that's half the job done, but defensively Armagh don't look as balanced as they did last year with McKay out.



Galway don't do handy games unless they go up against poorly organised teams low on confidence. Both Meath and Galway will be happy with that draw.

Kerry to me could have done with the rest but I'd expect that slip up v Meath will now mean a last 8 exit.


APM

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Quote from: JoG2 on June 23, 2025, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 23, 2025, 08:58:50 AMPretty much nailed on it'll be:

Saturday

Galway v Meath
Dublin v Tyrone

Sunday

Donegal v monaghan
Armagh v Kerry

Jimmy whinging matches will get his way, the 6 day turnaround should have to be sucked up and accepted for finishing 2nd or 3rd in the group.

Jimmy McGirnness

I hear McGuinness was complaining yesterday about unrealistic demands and the number of injuries to players across the country? It begs the question, did he not know the championship structure when he brought a 35 year old Murphy out of retirement and then play a game where nearly every play goes through him?

Are these genuine complaints or is it all about deflecting any chat or pressure from his squad? Whatever about it, it's all becoming a bit tiresome!

bennydorano

Quote from: APM on June 23, 2025, 09:51:57 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 23, 2025, 09:43:44 AM
Quote from: mup on June 23, 2025, 08:57:47 AMCan't call three of those games. Galway will beat Meath even with their injuries.

Three Ulster teams should reach the last four and lucky Galway will find a way to fall over the line.

Is this not a game too far for Galway?Think the extra games have suited Kerry But Galway needed a handy game last week and they had another battle to the end. Meath are still a bit of an unknown quantity but if any other of the remaining teams won all their group games and beat Kerry & the Dubs in the championship, they'd be definite favourites.

Armagh v Kerry boils down to Armagh limiting Clifford's influence and the way they are defending I wouldn't count on it. If they can win midfield and cut off the supply, that's half the job done, but defensively Armagh don't look as balanced as they did last year with McKay out.


Exactly the way I see it, I've said it before the new rules are no friend of McCambridge, I know he's an injury doubt but if fit it's either him or Paddy Hamstring - unless McGeeney has a cunning plan, quite possible too.

The talking up of Armagh is BS/annoying at this stage, I wouldn't travel with any great confidence.

seafoid

In previous years the preliminary quarter final teams all lost their qf . This year is somehow different because the preliminary teams are overall better than the waiting teams(Armagh are the exception). I would be surprised if the 4 waiting teams all won their quarter finals.

Ethan Tremblay

Quote from: APM on June 23, 2025, 10:12:52 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 23, 2025, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 23, 2025, 08:58:50 AMPretty much nailed on it'll be:

Saturday

Galway v Meath
Dublin v Tyrone

Sunday

Donegal v monaghan
Armagh v Kerry

Jimmy whinging matches will get his way, the 6 day turnaround should have to be sucked up and accepted for finishing 2nd or 3rd in the group.

Jimmy McGirnness

I hear McGuinness was complaining yesterday about unrealistic demands and the number of injuries to players across the country? It begs the question, did he not know the championship structure when he brought a 35 year old Murphy out of retirement and then play a game where nearly every play goes through him?

Are these genuine complaints or is it all about deflecting any chat or pressure from his squad? Whatever about it, it's all becoming a bit tiresome!

He isn't wrong but neither are you. 

Players are saying how quicker the game has become with the new rules, and the excess games are sure to be taking their toll on squads. 

But he knew from January the structure and the amount of games he would potentially be playing.  Had they topped their group this wouldn't be his issue I suppose with the week and game off.  Siege mentality stuff for Jim. 

Tyrone/Dublin - should be a good one.  Both out to prove something. 

Armagh/Kerry - as mentioned, Cliffords impact needs curbed for Armagh to get out of this one.  Good moving the ball forward, questionable in defence. 


I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

gallsman

Quote from: bennydorano on June 23, 2025, 10:16:00 AMThe talking up of Armagh is BS/annoying at this stage, I wouldn't travel with any great confidence.

More than a few lads here seem to think retaining Sam is a fait accompli.

AustinPowers

Quote from: APM on June 23, 2025, 10:12:52 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 23, 2025, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 23, 2025, 08:58:50 AMPretty much nailed on it'll be:

Saturday

Galway v Meath
Dublin v Tyrone

Sunday

Donegal v monaghan
Armagh v Kerry

Jimmy whinging matches will get his way, the 6 day turnaround should have to be sucked up and accepted for finishing 2nd or 3rd in the group.

Jimmy McGirnness

I hear McGuinness was complaining yesterday about unrealistic demands and the number of injuries to players across the country? It begs the question, did he not know the championship structure when he brought a 35 year old Murphy out of retirement and then play a game where nearly every play goes through him?

Are these genuine complaints or is it all about deflecting any chat or pressure from his squad? Whatever about it, it's all becoming a bit tiresome!

Yes , it is tiresome from McGuinness. But  pointing things like this out on the thread, is  what's tiresome, apparently  ::)

mup

Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 23, 2025, 09:07:55 AM
Quote from: mup on June 23, 2025, 08:57:47 AMCan't call three of those games. Galway will beat Meath even with their injuries.
haha. Always trust a flour bag to moan. Enjoy the tc final. Although limerick likely winners

Point out where I'm moaning. Take your time.

mup

Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 23, 2025, 09:43:44 AM
Quote from: mup on June 23, 2025, 08:57:47 AMCan't call three of those games. Galway will beat Meath even with their injuries.

Three Ulster teams should reach the last four and lucky Galway will find a way to fall over the line.

Galway will have way too much quality for Meath imo.

And if a gun was put to my head I'd call Armagh, Tyrone and Donegal without any great confidence.