All Ireland Championship 2025.

[From the Bunker]

Bad result (other than Mayo) for all teams in the group.
Probably the worst result for Cavan.
Two average teams who can cause an upset, but won't be near Silverware.
Donegal v Mayo will be a plum tie now.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Mayo will still more than likely finish bottom.

As good as they were today I can't see them beating Donegal but could be wrong.

[gallsman]

If Tyrone beat Cavan, and Donegal beat both Cavan and Mayo, does it come down to H2H between the teams with two wins and the teams with one respectively?

[SouthOfThe Bann]

If Tyrone beat Cavan, and Donegal beat both Cavan and Mayo, does it come down to H2H between the teams with two wins save the teams with one respectively?

Yes head to head with 2 teams level. Score difference with 3 or more.

[greatpoint]

Impressive ambush win for Mayo and full value for the margin of victory. Less will taking Tyrone up as All-Ireland champions to be this week.

Ambush is a bit strong Mayo had one bad performance and Tyrone one good one before this.

Yet you had people talking about All—Irelands after last weekend

[cavanmaniac]

Cavan, tails up, at a neutral venue will not be easy.

Not if this shitshow is repeated

Cavan will tuck tail once Tyrone turn up the heat at all. As sure as night follows day. Unless they show something against Donegal tomorrow, to suggest they've they're no longer as psychologically brittle as they've shown umpteen times over the years (and I don't necessarily mean winning it) then I don't see us changing the pattern of multiple capitulations v Tyrone, our ultimate bête noir. At best a moral victory before yielding in the deciding minutes, like in Breffni last year.

[joemamas]

What happens in the following scenarios,
group ends with

Donegal 4pts
Tyrone 4pts
Mayo 2pts
Cavan 2pts

or
Donegal 4pts
Cavan 4pts
Mayo 2pts
Tyrone 2pts

will it be head to head or point differential
Thanks in advance

[reddgnhand]

Cavan, tails up, at a neutral venue will not be easy.

Not if this shitshow is repeated

Cavan will tuck tail once Tyrone turn up the heat at all. As sure as night follows day. Unless they show something against Donegal tomorrow, to suggest they've they're no longer as psychologically brittle as they've shown umpteen times over the years (and I don't necessarily mean winning it) then I don't see us changing the pattern of multiple capitulations v Tyrone, our ultimate bête noir. At best a moral victory before yielding in the deciding minutes, like in Breffni last year.

The run has to end sometime.

[Tubberman]

H2H if two teams on same points, points difference if more than 2 on same points.

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

Mayo very deserving winners there and in all honesty Tyrone were fortunate enough to get back within a point in the second half. The way Mayo reacted to that was very impressive.

I know the media there are presenting it as something of a shock but in reality there isn't much between those teams. Tyrone are a work in progress and remains to be seen exactly where they are. Mayo, despite the last two defeats, are still a hugely talented team.

From Tyrone point of view Kennedy and Hampsey were missed but overall just pretty flat and disjointed. Need a reaction against Cavan to keep it going and build on improved performances. Really need to ensure they at very least make it out the group. And if they do take it from there.

Hope our old friend Farandeelin was looking down and enjoying that performance.

[larryin89]

When will they announce r3 venues ?

[joemamas]

Mayo very deserving winners there and in all honesty Tyrone were fortunate enough to get back within a point in the second half. The way Mayo reacted to that was very impressive.

I know the media there are presenting it as something of a shock but in reality there isn't much between those teams. Tyrone are a work in progress and remains to be seen exactly where they are. Mayo, despite the last two defeats, are still a hugely talented team.

From Tyrone point of view Kennedy and Hampsey were missed but overall just pretty flat and disjointed. Need a reaction against Cavan to keep it going and build on improved performances. Really need to ensure they at very least make it out the group. And if they do take it from there.

Hope our old friend Farandeelin was looking down and enjoying that performance.

Thank you for reminding us.
He was a sound man and a loyal Mayo supporter.

[Blowitupref]

What happens in the following scenarios,
group ends with

Donegal 4pts
Tyrone 4pts
Mayo 2pts
Cavan 2pts

or
Donegal 4pts
Cavan 4pts
Mayo 2pts
Tyrone 2pts

will it be head to head or point differential
Thanks in advance

Head to head.

[cavanmaniac]

Cavan, tails up, at a neutral venue will not be easy.

Not if this shitshow is repeated

Cavan will tuck tail once Tyrone turn up the heat at all. As sure as night follows day. Unless they show something against Donegal tomorrow, to suggest they've they're no longer as psychologically brittle as they've shown umpteen times over the years (and I don't necessarily mean winning it) then I don't see us changing the pattern of multiple capitulations v Tyrone, our ultimate bête noir. At best a moral victory before yielding in the deciding minutes, like in Breffni last year.

The run has to end sometime.

You're right of course and perhaps I'm overly negative after years suffering under Tyrone's heel, at all age grades. If Cavan unexpectedly discover and show something previously unseen against a fully dialled-in and smarting Donegal, and their elite-level manager tomorrow, then hope will spring eternal. We've learned not to harbour too much hope here over the years though.

[Captain Obvious]

Very poor by Tyrone tonight somewhat lost the run of themselves with that win over Donegal who was a little lost without Patton. Well done Mayo with that win they blow the group wide open.