NFL Division 1 2025

[5times5times]

Armagh seem fairly depleted again for team announced. Would relegation back to Div2 be the worst thing in the world for them next year, especially with their age profile and sheer # of missing players so far this year?

[maddog]

Imagine if Cake was still playing. Would be hard to tether.

[statto]

Armagh seem fairly depleted again for team announced. Would relegation back to Div2 be the worst thing in the world for them next year, especially with their age profile and sheer # of missing players so far this year?

I would expect that they will do enough to stay up given it's a nothing game for Derry.

They will want to stay in Division One, Campbell, Murnin, Forker, Grugan (Grugan and Murnin both suited to new rules) won't go on forever, but they have other players exposure to Division One football such as McCormack, McMullan and more minutes to lads like McQuillan who has been more of an impact player.  Armagh will lose players over the next few years but they have built depth to the panel which Geezer deserves credit for which should allow them to be competitive.  Rian O'Neill's current absence will be a tough one to replace especially with the new rules as they are made for him. 

[Armamike]

Usually it's the team with the greater need that wins in this league. Armagh need to beat Derry to have a chance of staying up, so would expect Armagh to be the hungrier.  But, it's a free hit for Derry to a degree and they will want to end a bad league on a positive note to bring into the championship.  So basically Armagh should be expecting a fully motivated Derry!

[Applesisapples]

Rafferty has to start for Armagh, Blaine Hughes was poor the last day out.

[Mario]

As a Derry fan I'd rather Armagh weren't in Division 2 next year. Hopefully Tyrone get relegated

[Armagh18]

As a Derry fan I'd rather Armagh weren't in Division 2 next year. Hopefully Tyrone get relegated

Would expect Derry and whoever goes down to bounce back straight away.

Tyrone maybe wouldn't mind going down with the amount of young players coming through.

[David McKeown]

Nervy enough game potentially for Armagh too. A win by less than 20 points would mean they'd have to rely on other results.

Hard to call for me this one. I don't place much store in the team named anymore. So it will be interesting to see

[Wildweasel74]

Derry be only half out. If that. Yous trying to drum up the game or sthing. Armagh win handy enough.

[APM]

Derry be only half out. If that. Yous trying to drum up the game or sthing. Armagh win handy enough.

It's not unheard for a relegated team to win their final game, sometimes against a team that needs the win. Pressures off Derry and this game isn't a given.

[David McKeown]

Derry be only half out. If that. Yous trying to drum up the game or sthing. Armagh win handy enough.

It's not unheard for a relegated team to win their final game, sometimes against a team that needs the win. Pressures off Derry and this game isn't a given.

Agreed I would like to think Armagh would win but don't expect us not to be relying on other results to stay up.  Not the first time I remember Derry coming to the Athletic grounds when we needed to win to survive and didn't.

[twohands!!!]

Armagh seem fairly depleted again for team announced. Would relegation back to Div2 be the worst thing in the world for them next year, especially with their age profile and sheer # of missing players so far this year?

I would expect that they will do enough to stay up given it's a nothing game for Derry.

They will want to stay in Division One, Campbell, Murnin, Forker, Grugan (Grugan and Murnin both suited to new rules) won't go on forever, but they have other players exposure to Division One football such as McCormack, McMullan and more minutes to lads like McQuillan who has been more of an impact player.  Armagh will lose players over the next few years but they have built depth to the panel which Geezer deserves credit for which should allow them to be competitive.  Rian O'Neill's current absence will be a tough one to replace especially with the new rules as they are made for him. 

Teams who get relegated from Division 1 rarely go on to have good championships. A lot of these Armagh lads have experience of Division 2 and a fair few of the older heads will remember Division 3 and know how much a difference in class there is in the divisions. I'd say they'll be fairly stongly motivated to avoid relegation. I'd be fairly shocked if they ended up lossing to Derry. Could happen but I haven't seen anything in the league so far to suggest Derry will get the result.

[twohands!!!]

With the new rules there aren't many better keepers than Lynch. He's a great shot stopper, has never been beat in a penalty shootout, is great off the tee. Often derided last year because of what he was asked to do but it wasnt his fault when teammates got turned over out the pitch.

If Murray is fit I can't think of a team he wouldn't start on. Dublin maybe.

He's a very good shot stopper for sure, he made some great saves in the penalty shootout with us in the Ulster Final in 23 but he's way too immobile for the new rules. A weak link. Shot stopping is down the list of what is required for a modern keeper.

With the new rules I'd imagine most goalkeepers will stay in their goals?

Yeah unless you're a Morgan/Rafferty type and are coming up to give others a rest it'd mostly be staying back

If a team is behind late on a Morgan/Rafferty type could be very seriously valuable in terms of gambling and chasing a game compared to a couple of wing-backs who have been haring up and the down the pitch for 55 minutes, especially if the keeper hasn't ventured out all that much prior to the 55 minutes. Would be almost like a fresh fair of legs without making a sub, especially if the keeper is more capable of scoring 2 pointers. I could also see situations where a keeper might have a better chance of not being properly picked up by an oppoition marker. The same would apply in extra-time of a game as well if you named a new keeper in the extra-time starting 15.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Mayo v Donegal - Donegal are shorter odds to win the all ireland than win this game with some bookies. Only one result here. Mayo by 9.

Galway v Kerry - Galway seem to be stuttering a bit at the wrong time. Kerry moving well last week with a good kicking game. Kerry by 5.

Tyrone v Dublin - You'd imagine Dublin will have to much here despite Tyrone's previous capabilities of pulling off miracles when relegation is on the line. Dublin by 5.

Armagh v Derry - Armagh should win this with a bit to spare. Surprised if Derry even put out their strongest lineup. Armagh by 7.

[Wildweasel74]

Team line ups for all games should be 2 days in advance. Still don't know the line ups of some teams for tomorrow.