NFL Division 1 2025

[APM]

Next Sunday will be good craic -

They should really abandon the league finals and play the final round of the league on St Patrick's Day. Apart from likely concern about congestion with parades etc, it really  be would make for a fitting finale to what is an excellent competition

[Never beat the deeler]

Think I said half way through the league that given the fixtures they had left (including a not interested Donegal in the final round) that Mayo might end up in the league final.

dúirt bean liom go ndúirt bean léi

[Easttyrone23]

Tyrone have lost to the other 3 teams who can get relegated which means a win might still not keep them up. Although if 3 teams finish on the same points then it will go by point difference which Tyrone have in their favour over mayo and Armagh.

Kerry have a tough game vs Galway who can guarantee a league final with a win, so could potentially see themselves relegated if both Tyrone and Armagh won and they lose to Galway.

Armagh should definitely win as they play the only team with nothing to play for. So in that case would only get relegated if Tyrone win and Kerry draw or both of them win and mayo lose but maintain a better point difference.

A draw for Kerry would almost certainly keep them safe with having the head to head and superior point difference to both Tyrone and Armagh.

The only way Mayo would be relegated is if Tyrone, kerry and Armagh win and them losing to Donegal with a 5+ swing in point difference vs Armagh.

[onefineday]

Derry did okay with a weakened side. Thought we should've had a penalty for the foot block. 2 other situations with the new rules I am not too sure about. The first mayo point came when they were awarded a free, the derry player handed the ball over and the mayo player immediately bounced the ball and started running forward before giving a pass for an easy score. Has the solo and go changed to allow a bounce and go? Also Conor Doherty scored a great point near the end from outside the 45. The keeper got a fingertip to it as it went over the bar and only one point was awarded. I thought that rule had changed with the word directly removed so it should've been 2 points.

The removal of the word "directly" was so that a ball that hits the post and then goes over scores 2 points.  If an opposition player touches it over the bar it is still 1 point.

And no, you can't bounce from a solo and go. If what you described is what happened then the player should have been put back to retake the free.

When I saw that change about the removal of the word 'directly' I presumed it was to address precisely this situation, where a keeper got the tip of a glove to the ball on the way over. I saw the explanation about hitting the post etc, but I don't see why this scenario isn't also covered by the new wording. It happened in the Tyrone v armagh game too, it's obviously nonsense and you'd imagine it's unintended. Reape was very aware of of it, he was turning to the umpire with one giant glove finger up after he claimed he touched it. If this interpretation remains will we see keepers get those giant fan hands and keep them in the net to pull on in certain situations, the way hurling keepers used to have their extra hurls etc?

[upmonaghansayswe]

Was of the same thought that removing directly meant deflections and keepers touches wouldn't turn a 2 point into a 1. It's bizarre. More reason for keepers to be yapping at umpires.

[illdecide]

There is certain luck involved here lads and how the fixture lands on your lap and Armagh def do not seem to get that luck in recent years. Before you all jump on to give off I know if you win your own matches then you've nothing to worry about but not every team can win all their matches.
If you're playing a team who don't want to be in the League final and they rest players then you're gonna get 2pts handy enough but if you were to play that team in the first 3-4 games and they're at full strength you won't. It happened Armagh 2 years ago when Mayo went to Kerry (I think) and won the last game away which on current form would not have happened but when teams have nothing to play for or worse don't want to be in a League final you know you're getting the two pts.
This is not an Armagh thing as it could be Mayo or Kerry next year I'm just saying with dates and finals surely they should be 2-3 weeks before any Championship match and a great incentive to go and try and win the League. The All Ireland finals are too early as far as i'm concerned so push them back a few weeks and play the League properly with some bonus for the winning team too...(a training week in La Manga paid for by GAA or something like a weekend in Granard, Co Longford...lol).

[Wise Old Oak]

I'm a season ticket holder and I've followed Derry all over the country and in all 4 divisions for over 30 years. I understand that the league is mainly used to try and get things right for the championship but the lack of direction this season is really worrying. From the lack of movement on our own kickouts to give the keeper more options til the zonal marking at opposition kickouts which has been leaving them with free men for their keeper to pick out easily the whole thing looks too easy to play against. But the most worrying thing is that the players look like they don't trust the tactics they're being asked to play out. There's a lack of belief in what they are doing and it shows in the lack of passion in the performances. Mr Tally just isn't the man to take this group of players or our county forward.

[Wildweasel74]

The league final should be at least 2 weeks out from the championship. Possible monetary value to winning it. It's been badly devalued by the top brass, and it be no suprise if the sponsor pulls out. McKenna Cup which most Ulster teams wanted kept in place also fell by the wayside. I think they changed too many rules and some games if u at them, u no idea of rule breach for some  frees. What happened the deliberate  pull down, penalty 2 yrs ago/black card, now it's as if it didn't exist. Did they drop that rule after a year.

[nrico2006]

A keeper touching it shouldn't matter, if it's from outside the arc it should be 2 points.

Did Walsh take his free back from where it should have been taken against Tyrone to get a 2 point chance? That shouldn't be allowed either.

[seafoid]

The league final should be at least 2 weeks out from the championship. Possible monetary value to winning it. It's been badly devalued by the top brass, and it be no suprise if the sponsor pulls out. McKenna Cup which most Ulster teams wanted kept in place also fell by the wayside. I think they changed too many rules and some games if u at them, u no idea of rule breach for some  frees. What happened the deliberate  pull down, penalty 2 yrs ago/black card, now it's as if it didn't exist. Did they drop that rule after a year.

I read somewhere that the GAA is planning to move the finals into august which would mean that a 2 week gap between the League and the championship could be arranged

[AustinPowers]

Derry did okay with a weakened side. Thought we should've had a penalty for the foot block. 2 other situations with the new rules I am not too sure about. The first mayo point came when they were awarded a free, the derry player handed the ball over and the mayo player immediately bounced the ball and started running forward before giving a pass for an easy score. Has the solo and go changed to allow a bounce and go? Also Conor Doherty scored a great point near the end from outside the 45. The keeper got a fingertip to it as it went over the bar and only one point was awarded. I thought that rule had changed with the word directly removed so it should've been 2 points.

The removal of the word "directly" was so that a ball that hits the post and then goes over scores 2 points.  If an opposition player touches it over the bar it is still 1 point.

And no, you can't bounce from a solo and go. If what you described is what happened then the player should have been put back to retake the free.

When I saw that change about the removal of the word 'directly' I presumed it was to address precisely this situation, where a keeper got the tip of a glove to the ball on the way over. I saw the explanation about hitting the post etc, but I don't see why this scenario isn't also covered by the new wording. It happened in the Tyrone v armagh game too, it's obviously nonsense and you'd imagine it's unintended. Reape was very aware of of it, he was turning to the umpire with one giant glove finger up after he claimed he touched it. If this interpretation remains will we see keepers get those giant fan hands and keep them in the net to pull on in certain situations, the way hurling keepers used to have their extra hurls etc?

I was  thinking about this scenario lately.  Lets say, a team is behind by 2 points, and they have a free outside the arc. 

What's to stop a player or two  in the defending team standing  on top of the crossbar,  to just touch the ball as it goes over. Instead of the opponent getting the 2 pointer  to force a draw,  it's only one, and your team wins the game, all because of a fingertip touch

[Wildweasel74]

Was thinking more of lifting like a rubgy line out myself.

[mrdeeds]

Derry did okay with a weakened side. Thought we should've had a penalty for the foot block. 2 other situations with the new rules I am not too sure about. The first mayo point came when they were awarded a free, the derry player handed the ball over and the mayo player immediately bounced the ball and started running forward before giving a pass for an easy score. Has the solo and go changed to allow a bounce and go? Also Conor Doherty scored a great point near the end from outside the 45. The keeper got a fingertip to it as it went over the bar and only one point was awarded. I thought that rule had changed with the word directly removed so it should've been 2 points.

The removal of the word "directly" was so that a ball that hits the post and then goes over scores 2 points.  If an opposition player touches it over the bar it is still 1 point.

And no, you can't bounce from a solo and go. If what you described is what happened then the player should have been put back to retake the free.

When I saw that change about the removal of the word 'directly' I presumed it was to address precisely this situation, where a keeper got the tip of a glove to the ball on the way over. I saw the explanation about hitting the post etc, but I don't see why this scenario isn't also covered by the new wording. It happened in the Tyrone v armagh game too, it's obviously nonsense and you'd imagine it's unintended. Reape was very aware of of it, he was turning to the umpire with one giant glove finger up after he claimed he touched it. If this interpretation remains will we see keepers get those giant fan hands and keep them in the net to pull on in certain situations, the way hurling keepers used to have their extra hurls etc?

I was  thinking about this scenario lately.  Lets say, a team is behind by 2 points, and they have a free outside the arc. 

What's to stop a player or two  in the defending team standing  on top of the crossbar,  to just touch the ball as it goes over. Instead of the opponent getting the 2 pointer  to force a draw,  it's only one, and your team wins the game, all because of a fingertip touch

Isn't this a penalty? Not sure on lifting like rugby though.

[Substandard]

Or a lineout- style lift, although there's something in the back of my head that that happened before sometime and was adjudged a foul, but I can't remember the details.

[J70]

Tyrone have lost to the other 3 teams who can get relegated which means a win might still not keep them up. Although if 3 teams finish on the same points then it will go by point difference which Tyrone have in their favour over mayo and Armagh.

Kerry have a tough game vs Galway who can guarantee a league final with a win, so could potentially see themselves relegated if both Tyrone and Armagh won and they lose to Galway.

Armagh should definitely win as they play the only team with nothing to play for. So in that case would only get relegated if Tyrone win and Kerry draw or both of them win and mayo lose but maintain a better point difference.

A draw for Kerry would almost certainly keep them safe with having the head to head and superior point difference to both Tyrone and Armagh.

The only way Mayo would be relegated is if Tyrone, kerry and Armagh win and them losing to Donegal with a 5+ swing in point difference vs Armagh.

You can count Mayo out of this scenario.

They're not going to lose at home to Donegal when they have everything to play for and Donegal have nothing except an unwanted spot in the league final a week out from Derry.

Besides, I don't think we've won a game in Mayo since one about 15 years ago when Eamon McGee found the bottom corner of the net through a crowd from 21 yards in an injury time smash and grab! And we've a very poor record in general against Mayo, so I think you're on your own, Tyrone and Armagh!