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marty34

Paddy Tally in it for the long haul it seems.

"We're trying to rebuild something here, it's going to take a bit of time."

Champion The Wonder Horse

Quote from: marty34 on March 16, 2025, 09:47:51 PMPaddy Tally in it for the long haul it seems.

"We're trying to rebuild something here, it's going to take a bit of time."

He has written this year off already. A fraud.

Wildweasel74

I don't know why he's saying a rebuild, there was a strong enough team there. It was strengthening it. I like to know what our attacking tactic is, foreby getting it to Shane McGuigan. Why was Ruane not picked up after scoring a few points. He made it to 6 and still not tagged. It's his zonal marking mindset that beats me. Only Galway really use that.

Champion The Wonder Horse

Watching Enda McGinley stealing a wage on RTE tonight. Who is the McCusker he referred to as missing from the Derry defence today? And I'm not sure Patrick McGurk is Johnny's son?

Hoof Hearted

Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 16, 2025, 10:17:09 PMWatching Enda McGinley stealing a wage on RTE tonight. Who is the McCusker he referred to as missing from the Derry defence today? And I'm not sure Patrick McGurk is Johnny's son?

He is

lenny

Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 16, 2025, 10:11:42 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 16, 2025, 09:47:51 PMPaddy Tally in it for the long haul it seems.

"We're trying to rebuild something here, it's going to take a bit of time."

He has written this year off already. A fraud.

He was appointed so late, I think he deserves another year whatever happens for the rest of the season. He didn't get a chance to watch the club championship where he might've got a few players to add to the squad which is threadbare.

Champion The Wonder Horse

Quote from: Hoof Hearted on March 16, 2025, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 16, 2025, 10:17:09 PMWatching Enda McGinley stealing a wage on RTE tonight. Who is the McCusker he referred to as missing from the Derry defence today? And I'm not sure Patrick McGurk is Johnny's son?

He is

I'm wrong again, as usual. Thought maybe Kieran's lad.
Patrick looks like an addition.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: lenny on March 16, 2025, 10:21:33 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on March 16, 2025, 10:11:42 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 16, 2025, 09:47:51 PMPaddy Tally in it for the long haul it seems.

"We're trying to rebuild something here, it's going to take a bit of time."

He has written this year off already. A fraud.

He was appointed so late, I think he deserves another year whatever happens for the rest of the season. He didn't get a chance to watch the club championship where he might've got a few players to add to the squad which is threadbare.
Mickey Harte wins the league....out ta fcuk.
Paddy Tally doesn't win a match....give him another year.

Mad stuff.

Stickittotheman

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 16, 2025, 10:15:20 PMI don't know why he's saying a rebuild, there was a strong enough team there. It was strengthening it. I like to know what our attacking tactic is, foreby getting it to Shane McGuigan. Why was Ruane not picked up after scoring a few points. He made it to 6 and still not tagged. It's his zonal marking mindset that beats me. Only Galway really use that.

A rebuild of a team that were league champions and AI Quarter finalists? Sounds like someone making excuses. You can make a case that it is difficult without key players but that has been an issue for a while- very limited depth in the squad. Tally was supposed to be a defensive guru. I have never seen us so porous at the back. Teams just walk through us.

I also thought Tally declaring this year a 'scrub year' sets the tone. Players thinking well the league probably cost us longer term last year and Tally isn't too bothered either way. We need a massive improvement in 3 weeks to just avoid a doing.

screenexile

Quote from: Stickittotheman on March 16, 2025, 10:40:20 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 16, 2025, 10:15:20 PMI don't know why he's saying a rebuild, there was a strong enough team there. It was strengthening it. I like to know what our attacking tactic is, foreby getting it to Shane McGuigan. Why was Ruane not picked up after scoring a few points. He made it to 6 and still not tagged. It's his zonal marking mindset that beats me. Only Galway really use that.

A rebuild of a team that were league champions and AI Quarter finalists? Sounds like someone making excuses. You can make a case that it is difficult without key players but that has been an issue for a while- very limited depth in the squad. Tally was supposed to be a defensive guru. I have never seen us so porous at the back. Teams just walk through us.

I also thought Tally declaring this year a 'scrub year' sets the tone. Players thinking well the league probably cost us longer term last year and Tally isn't too bothered either way. We need a massive improvement in 3 weeks to just avoid a doing.

I honestly couldn't care less about the Donegal game. It has to be all about getting the squad fit and ready for the Sam Maguire.

Estimator

Derry: Odhran Lynch (inj); Conor McCluskey (inj), Chrissy McKaigue (ret), Diarmuid Baker; Conor Doherty (0-01), Eoin McEvoy (2-02), Pádraig McGrogan; Conor Glass (0-02, 1 '45'), Brendan Rogers (inj) (0-01); Ethan Doherty (0-01), Ciaran McFaul (inj) Paul Cassidy; Niall Loughlin (0-02), Shane McGuigan (1-04, 1-00 pen, 0-02f), Lachlan Murray (inj)(0-03, 1m).

Subs: Gareth McKinless (inj) for McGrogan (ht), Niall Toner (0-02) for McKinless (52), Cormac Murphy for Loughlin (66), Donncha Gilmore (inj) for P Cassidy (70), Emmett Bradley (ret)for Murray (77), Declan Cassidy for McKaigue (81), Eunan Mulholland for C Doherty (88).

That's the squad that played against Dublin in last years League Final. By my count: 7 out injured now (3 of which won't be seen in Derry colours again this season); 2 are now retired from county duty; And add in that Murphy, McGrogan and Laughlin have been out with long term injuries.
Ulster League Champions 2009

Wildweasel74

Squad strength Lenny doesn't explain his shear lack of tactics, on opposition  kickouts, not picking up players causing serious damage, lack of hard tacking, not shadowing. I really can't see what our attacking set up is,  as we don't kickpass early to the front 3 with all that space.People wanted Harte gone,and I wasn't fussed on him been appointed but he was the best option left at the time. This year I think we went bck, some of it due to bad luck, injuries but I don't think management a improvement from previous one.

Stickittotheman

Quote from: screenexile on March 16, 2025, 10:46:08 PM
Quote from: Stickittotheman on March 16, 2025, 10:40:20 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 16, 2025, 10:15:20 PMI don't know why he's saying a rebuild, there was a strong enough team there. It was strengthening it. I like to know what our attacking tactic is, foreby getting it to Shane McGuigan. Why was Ruane not picked up after scoring a few points. He made it to 6 and still not tagged. It's his zonal marking mindset that beats me. Only Galway really use that.

A rebuild of a team that were league champions and AI Quarter finalists? Sounds like someone making excuses. You can make a case that it is difficult without key players but that has been an issue for a while- very limited depth in the squad. Tally was supposed to be a defensive guru. I have never seen us so porous at the back. Teams just walk through us.

I also thought Tally declaring this year a 'scrub year' sets the tone. Players thinking well the league probably cost us longer term last year and Tally isn't too bothered either way. We need a massive improvement in 3 weeks to just avoid a doing.

I honestly couldn't care less about the Donegal game. It has to be all about getting the squad fit and ready for the Sam Maguire.

The Provincials feed into Sam particularly with the seedings. Beat by Donegal we are 3rd seeds. That has the potential to have a serious effect in the group stages. Pretty deflating to be Ulster Champions two years in a row, League champions last year, Quarter finalists and semi finalists all over the past 3 years and be a bit rudderless at the minute.

Ball

Quote from: Estimator on March 16, 2025, 10:59:48 PMDerry: Odhran Lynch (inj); Conor McCluskey (inj), Chrissy McKaigue (ret), Diarmuid Baker; Conor Doherty (0-01), Eoin McEvoy (2-02), Pádraig McGrogan; Conor Glass (0-02, 1 '45'), Brendan Rogers (inj) (0-01); Ethan Doherty (0-01), Ciaran McFaul (inj) Paul Cassidy; Niall Loughlin (0-02), Shane McGuigan (1-04, 1-00 pen, 0-02f), Lachlan Murray (inj)(0-03, 1m).

Subs: Gareth McKinless (inj) for McGrogan (ht), Niall Toner (0-02) for McKinless (52), Cormac Murphy for Loughlin (66), Donncha Gilmore (inj) for P Cassidy (70), Emmett Bradley (ret)for Murray (77), Declan Cassidy for McKaigue (81), Eunan Mulholland for C Doherty (88).

That's the squad that played against Dublin in last years League Final. By my count: 7 out injured now (3 of which won't be seen in Derry colours again this season); 2 are now retired from county duty; And add in that Murphy, McGrogan and Laughlin have been out with long term injuries.

Eunan mulholland doesnt seem to be on the panel this year either. As well as last years sub keeper Ryan Scullion.

Realistically Tally like Harte will be judged at the end of the season. The difference in their seasons could depend on not getting another hammering by donegal.

roadsidefox

Quote from: Ball on March 16, 2025, 11:09:50 PM
Quote from: Estimator on March 16, 2025, 10:59:48 PMDerry: Odhran Lynch (inj); Conor McCluskey (inj), Chrissy McKaigue (ret), Diarmuid Baker; Conor Doherty (0-01), Eoin McEvoy (2-02), Pádraig McGrogan; Conor Glass (0-02, 1 '45'), Brendan Rogers (inj) (0-01); Ethan Doherty (0-01), Ciaran McFaul (inj) Paul Cassidy; Niall Loughlin (0-02), Shane McGuigan (1-04, 1-00 pen, 0-02f), Lachlan Murray (inj)(0-03, 1m).

Subs: Gareth McKinless (inj) for McGrogan (ht), Niall Toner (0-02) for McKinless (52), Cormac Murphy for Loughlin (66), Donncha Gilmore (inj) for P Cassidy (70), Emmett Bradley (ret)for Murray (77), Declan Cassidy for McKaigue (81), Eunan Mulholland for C Doherty (88).

That's the squad that played against Dublin in last years League Final. By my count: 7 out injured now (3 of which won't be seen in Derry colours again this season); 2 are now retired from county duty; And add in that Murphy, McGrogan and Laughlin have been out with long term injuries.

Eunan mulholland doesnt seem to be on the panel this year either. As well as last years sub keeper Ryan Scullion.

Realistically Tally like Harte will be judged at the end of the season. The difference in their seasons could depend on not getting another hammering by donegal.

Was chatting to somebody here in Sydney recently who said Scullion was planning on travelling this year & declared himself unavailable.

Eunan left the squad, as well as Conleth McGuckin.