Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

[Banks of the Bann]

The whole timing of an attack on Chernobyl is peculiar, how this benefits russia i have no idea. Is there any footage without the jumpcut before the strike?

It's called nuclear terrorism. Russia has been using it since the start of the war. Now they're using it to say look what could happen next if there isn't a ceasefire.

Russia would have been delighted with Trumps announcements, less so with the noise from the rest of Europe about gearing up to support Ukraine. Hence the warning shot against Chornobyl  last night.

With Russia you aren't dealing with a country interested in peace. You are dealing with a country that desperately wants to consolidate their current position and have a pause to regroup.

[Capt Pat]

Trump wants Germany to rearm. I wonder if that will play out like it did the last time.

[Wildweasel74]

To me the Russians def have sthing on Trump. His Russian love in does not make sense. He no idea of world affairs. Fall by the wayside in Ukraine putting the issue 10yrs down the line with Estonia or Poland. Though Poland well geared up this time unlike WW2. Finland I don't think is as worried, as they handed Russia their ass during WW2 with very little. Terrain just that hard going.

[seafoid]

To me the Russians def have sthing on Trump. His Russian love in does not make sense. He no idea of world affairs. Fall by the wayside in Ukraine putting the issue 10yrs down the line with Estonia or Poland. Though Poland well geared up this time unlike WW2. Finland I don't think is as worried, as they handed Russia their ass during WW2 with very little. Terrain just that hard going.

Finland lost a province called Karelia after WW2. I think it had the second largest city at the time. The population was ethically cleansed. It hit very hard.

[Bord na Mona man]

To me the Russians def have sthing on Trump. His Russian love in does not make sense. He no idea of world affairs.

He could be compromised by Russia, or he likes strong men dictators like Putin. Trump would secretly enjoy the option of throwing opponents off balconies.
He may hold a grudge against Ukraine for not helping him dig up dirt on the Bidens.
Carving up Ukraine to plunder their resources aligns his deal-making instinct too.

Anyway, it's not looking for Ukraine at the moment. JD Vance seems like slightly more level-headed, but is no great friend of Ukraine either, going by some of his utterances.

[theskull1]

So is the concensus that Russia is the biggest threat to the West?

The West who lick the hole of Israel regardless of their depravity think that Russia is the main threat?

[Banks of the Bann]

So is the concensus that Russia is the biggest threat to the West?

The West who lick the hole of Israel regardless of their depravity think that Russia is the main threat?

Yes Russia is the biggest threat to the West.

Things are about to get very confusing for you Holohoax.

What will you do now that Trump and Putin are about to become best friends again?

Will you take away Putin's 'Get Out Of Jail Free' card that western fake anti-imperialists, fake humanitarians such as yourself have assigned to some of the worst despots and repressive regimes in the world? (Even those that slaughter those you've convinced yourself you're a champion of, the Palestinians, oh yes).

Or will you double down and somehow find a way in your head to continue supporting the Child Murdering, Bombing, Thieving, Raping, Ethnic cleansing, monstrous, EMPIRE of Russia?

I predict the latter.

p.s. you really don't care about Palestinians either, you'd excuse Assad or Iran or Russia if they'd flattened Gaza. You'd be on here explaining why, but not excusing, of course.

[theskull1]

Hey Gerry ..... why didn't Duewelensky not let you know he actually does want your sons or daughters to die for the cause?

You'd agree it's the right thing to do now right?

'Army of Europe' needed to challenge Russia says Zelensky

[bennydorano]

You could certainly see a future where there's a NATO without the US, which would be a defacto euro army. If Trump's appease Putin plan is discarded and he throws the toys out of the pram it could happen pretty soon, the framework is already there.

[Banks of the Bann]

Hey Gerry ..... why didn't Duewelensky not let you know he actually does want your sons or daughters to die for the cause?

You'd agree it's the right thing to do now right?

'Army of Europe' needed to challenge Russia says Zelensky

"The cause" that you deride so much is the defence of less powerful nations against the fascist revanchist empire next door. Not much concern for 'sons and daughters' living next to Russia from you eh Holohoax?

It's easy to sneer when you live on an island far from the threat, that has been able to freeload on security for decades, even embarrassingly outsourcing aerial security to none other than the Saxon Foe. Oh dear.

As for a European Army - there should be greater defence spending, coordination and cohesion at all levels between willing countries. I don't think an official 'EU army' would work, if that was what President Zelenskyy was referring to.

ps. Israel throws the accusations of antisemitism around like confetti. It's part and parcel of their propaganda which enables them to commit their atrocities. However, antisemitism does exist and there are antisemites out there and you are one. Who do you think you are helping with your pathetic jibes? Certainly not the Palestinians. In fact the opposite. Israel needs antisemitism to justify its existence and you and those like you are fuel for their fire.

pps. How is the Holohoax investigation coming along? You've gone terribly quiet on that one.

[theskull1]

Not enough money to be made in peace

The bankers and the bankers shills love war

[Banks of the Bann]

Not enough money to be made in peace

The bankers and the bankers shills love war

Putin can go back to Russia anytime he likes. No more war.

You prefer to blame the victim for fighting back because of your sick twisted ideology.

[Bord na Mona man]

Not enough money to be made in peace

The bankers and the bankers shills love war

Trump wants Ukraine to surrender because he doesn't want to keep giving financing them.
Putin has put the Russian economy in serious trouble because his 3-day-war blew up in face - interest rates at 21%, inflation at 9%.

I'm sure a phone call from a couple of bankers will persuade them to drag it out a few more years and cost more billions.

[Banks of the Bann]

Looks like Trump and the Russians want to force Ukraine to hold an election to force Zelenskyy out as part of their surrender plan.

Never mind that Ukraine is following their constitution in delaying elections during a war and martial law.

It'll be then over to Alolf Musk et al to promote their preferred candidate.

I wonder what dirty tricks Trump
Will try to pull to force Ukraine to accept this BS.

Edit:  it's not a Munich 1938 Peace in our time blunder the Americans are making it's looking more like a full on modern day Molotov - Ribbentrop Pact 2025 agreement in the plundering of Ukraine these MFs are attempting.

[theskull1]

Surely the remaining electorate in the Ukrainian held areas would vote their piano playing president back in again?

If not why not?