NFL Division 1 2025

[gallsman]

Three two pointers, very little long kicking or high catching, almost no 1 on 1s, lots of sideways kicking and handpassing. The propaganda is mental.

Who was it TG4 had on speaking English to explain some things. FRC member by any chance?

[Gael85]

Three two pointers, very little long kicking or high catching, almost no 1 on 1s, lots of sideways kicking and handpassing. The propaganda is mental.

Who was it TG4 had on speaking English to explain some things. FRC member by any chance?

David Gough

[onefineday]

How commentators not even know rule bout keeper push ball over the bar therefore not two pointer? Some pundits they are, saying should have been 2 pointer.

How would they know? There's no rule book, this interpretation has developed, but we don't know if it's accurate yet or not.
To my mind if the kick is from the 2 point zone, and the no attacking player touches it again prior to going over the bar, then awarding 2 points would reflect the FRC objective.

Fitzmaurice has definitely mentioned if the kick is deflected (even outside the arc) then it's just a 1 pointer.

Illogical!

How commentators not even know rule bout keeper push ball over the bar therefore not two pointer? Some pundits they are, saying should have been 2 pointer.

How would they know? There's no rule book, this interpretation has developed, but we don't know if it's accurate yet or not.
To my mind if the kick is from the 2 point zone, and the no attacking player touches it again prior to going over the bar, then awarding 2 points would reflect the FRC objective.

Fitzmaurice has definitely mentioned if the kick is deflected (even outside the arc) then it's just a 1 pointer.

Illogical!

Just like removing the 4 point goal whilst retaining the 2 pointer (because of fears that scores might get out of hand).

And of course allowing some technical fouls to be brought back outside the arc to avail of the 2 point option if desired.


7 goals in 5 division one games to date - worth keeping an eye on how this develops with the reduced incentive to work a goal.

I think if the space is there teams will work the goal chance. Tyrone had one saved last night, we had one saved and I think Grugan put one over the bar but yeah interesting to see how it will go.

Just like removing the 4 point goal whilst retaining the 2 pointer (because of fears that scores might get out of hand).

And of course allowing some technical fouls to be brought back outside the arc to avail of the 2 point option if desired.


7 goals in 5 division one games to date - worth keeping an eye on how this develops with the reduced incentive to work a goal.

I think if the space is there teams will work the goal chance. Tyrone had one saved last night, we had one saved and I think Grugan put one over the bar but yeah interesting to see how it will go.

Yes, the intent was obviously to free up that space and maybe that'll develop as teams realised they can't sit back and allow 2-pt attempts to the same extent any more.
There certainly seems to be plenty of goals in lower divisions where teams tend not to be as organised (albeit I think there were always more goals lower down the leagues).

Early days still...

[gallsman]

Where has this narrative about Armagh's lack of strength in depth come from? Or worse, the narrative that their strength in depth is underestimated?

A massive chunk of the discourse last year was around the options McGeeney had to bring on in games. Soupy, McQuillan, Duffy, Nugent etc.

Go back two pages on this thread to see a few Armagh heads that underestimated the Armagh's strength in depth

I didn't ask where it was posted. I'm asking where on earth the notion has come from given it was was widely accepted as one of their greatest strengths last year.

[statto]

Armagh strength in depth strangely gets underestimated even by some Armagh heads. Conditioning of the 30 plus panel is among the best also, two keys things any panel needs under the old rules and especially now under the new rules.

Only doubt about Armagh this year was a possible hangover from winning All Ireland, last night showed that won't be an issue as they made Tyrone look punch drunk.

Tyrone were useless last year take that and minus errigal boys was a game Armagh probably needed to win.

[Captain Obvious]

Where has this narrative about Armagh's lack of strength in depth come from? Or worse, the narrative that their strength in depth is underestimated?

A massive chunk of the discourse last year was around the options McGeeney had to bring on in games. Soupy, McQuillan, Duffy, Nugent etc.

Go back two pages on this thread to see a few Armagh heads that underestimated the Armagh's strength in depth

I didn't ask where it was posted. I'm asking where on earth the notion has come from given it was was widely accepted as one of their greatest strengths last year.

I was referring to what was posted on here you are raving about some narrative.

[Armagh18]

Armagh strength in depth strangely gets underestimated even by some Armagh heads. Conditioning of the 30 plus panel is among the best also, two keys things any panel needs under the old rules and especially now under the new rules.

Only doubt about Armagh this year was a possible hangover from winning All Ireland, last night showed that won't be an issue as they made Tyrone look punch drunk.

Tyrone were useless last year take that and minus errigal boys was a game Armagh probably needed to win.

Yeah would expect a good few different faces on both sides if they meet come championship. Hopefully win all of our home games.

[Blowitupref]

Dessie Farrell confirmed last night that Michael Fitzsimons is unlikely to play for Dublin this year. That's him as good as retired given his age.

[marty34]

Dessie Farrell confirmed last night that Michael Fitzsimons is unlikely to play for Dublin this year. That's him as good as retired given his age.

Only leaves Cluxton now.

Things change very quickly.

[J70]

Three two pointers, very little long kicking or high catching, almost no 1 on 1s, lots of sideways kicking and handpassing. The propaganda is mental.

Who was it TG4 had on speaking English to explain some things. FRC member by any chance?

I thought the second half was better once Dublin started to win a bit of ball, but overall it didn't look a whole lot different to previous years. It's just instead of 13-14 players turning and running back to their own half, it's now 11. You still have the horseshoe defensive line, now along the 40m arc.

Has anyone in any of the games tried quickly hitting the spaces upfield with long kick passes after a turnover?

That's kind of what I was hoping for and expecting, at least sometimes!

Not writing things off though. You have to give them time to experiment and work things out. The tried and trusted tactics aren't going to be shed at the flick of a switch.

[J70]

Dessie Farrell confirmed last night that Michael Fitzsimons is unlikely to play for Dublin this year. That's him as good as retired given his age.

Only leaves Cluxton now.

Things change very quickly.

How many have Dublin to return?

Murchin, O'Callaghan, the Smalls, Costello etc.

Will many of those lads from last night be seen come spring?

[marty34]

Three two pointers, very little long kicking or high catching, almost no 1 on 1s, lots of sideways kicking and handpassing. The propaganda is mental.

Who was it TG4 had on speaking English to explain some things. FRC member by any chance?

I thought the second half was better once Dublin started to win a bit of ball, but overall it didn't look a whole lot different to previous years. It's just instead of 13-14 players turning and running back to their own half, it's now 11. You still have the horseshoe defensive line, now along the 40m arc.

Has anyone in any of the games tried quickly hitting the spaces upfield with long kick passes after a turnover?

That's kind of what I was hoping for and expecting, at least sometimes!

Not writing things off though. You have to give them time to experiment and work things out. The tried and trusted tactics aren't going to be shed at the flick of a switch.

I think TG4 had a referee on explaining things (in English).

Can't remember what referee it was though.

[Gael85]

Dessie Farrell confirmed last night that Michael Fitzsimons is unlikely to play for Dublin this year. That's him as good as retired given his age.

Only leaves Cluxton now.

Things change very quickly.

How many have Dublin to return?

Murchin, O'Callaghan, the Smalls, Costello etc.

Will many of those lads from last night be seen come spring?

Cluxton, Gannon and possibly POCB and Duffy from Cuala to come back too. I don't think John Small will be back.
Can't see O'Donnell starting come championship. Not a forward.

[Cunny Funt]

Three two pointers, very little long kicking or high catching, almost no 1 on 1s, lots of sideways kicking and handpassing. The propaganda is mental.

Who was it TG4 had on speaking English to explain some things. FRC member by any chance?

I thought the second half was better once Dublin started to win a bit of ball, but overall it didn't look a whole lot different to previous years. It's just instead of 13-14 players turning and running back to their own half, it's now 11. You still have the horseshoe defensive line, now along the 40m arc.

Has anyone in any of the games tried quickly hitting the spaces upfield with long kick passes after a turnover?

That's kind of what I was hoping for and expecting, at least sometimes!

Not writing things off though. You have to give them time to experiment and work things out. The tried and trusted tactics aren't going to be shed at the flick of a switch.

I think TG4 had a referee on explaining things (in English).

Can't remember what referee it was though.

Ref is David Gough.

A lot less windy today than last weekend. Galway v Mayo could be decent watch if the tribesmen break out of their safety first, Defensive shell.

I see Kerry are starting Sean O'Shea and Paudie Clifford.

[JPO]

The Dublin Donegal was as brutal as anything I saw last year. I turned it off at halftime. Total rubbish