Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[OakLeaf]

Former Derry and Banagher footballer from the 80s and 90s Patsy Odonnell passed away suddenly today,aged just 58

Remember him well whilst I was at Maghera. Gentleman. RIP.

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

Played alongside and against him. A good man. RIP

[Topmarks]

I was just watching a few clips of the Derry u20 match against Tyrone this year as I had little to be at and got thinking about the amount of serious footballers coming through. I'm sure I'm missing a few but if we can get a good lot of these boys through I think we are on to something. I've listed 10 backs and forwards and a couple of midfield options. Let me know if I've missed anyone out.

Backs
F McEldowney
L Grant
J Murray
C Spiers
P Haran
P McGurk
D McDermott
F Murray
O Campbell
R Small

Midfield
E McAvoy
R Forbes
T Rogers
R McGill

Forwards
J Sargent
J McGuckin
E Young
L Murray
N O'Donnell
D Gilmore
D Rocks
R McNicholl
C Chambers
E Higgins

[lenny]

I was just watching a few clips of the Derry u20 match against Tyrone this year as I had little to be at and got thinking about the amount of serious footballers coming through. I'm sure I'm missing a few but if we can get a good lot of these boys through I think we are on to something. I've listed 10 backs and forwards and a couple of midfield options. Let me know if I've missed anyone out.

Backs
F McEldowney
L Grant
J Murray
C Spiers
P Haran
P McGurk
D McDermott
F Murray
O Campbell
R Small

Midfield
E McAvoy
R Forbes
T Rogers
R McGill

Forwards
J Sargent
J McGuckin
E Young
L Murray
N O'Donnell
D Gilmore
D Rocks
R McNicholl
C Chambers
E Higgins

You've highlighted the main problem we have by listing 2 defenders as forwards ie Sargent and Gilmore. Lots of really good players there but not enough forwards. Oisin Doherty should be on the list anyway, he is a decent forward prospect. Matthew Downey probably as well, he's young enough but needs a but of luck to stay injury free for a while.

[Topmarks]

I was just watching a few clips of the Derry u20 match against Tyrone this year as I had little to be at and got thinking about the amount of serious footballers coming through. I'm sure I'm missing a few but if we can get a good lot of these boys through I think we are on to something. I've listed 10 backs and forwards and a couple of midfield options. Let me know if I've missed anyone out.

Backs
F McEldowney
L Grant
J Murray
C Spiers
P Haran
P McGurk
D McDermott
F Murray
O Campbell
R Small

Midfield
E McAvoy
R Forbes
T Rogers
R McGill

Forwards
J Sargent
J McGuckin
E Young
L Murray
N O'Donnell
D Gilmore
D Rocks
R McNicholl
C Chambers
E Higgins

You've highlighted the main problem we have by listing 2 defenders as forwards ie Sargent and Gilmore. Lots of really good players there but not enough forwards. Oisin Doherty should be on the list anyway, he is a decent forward prospect. Matthew Downey probably as well, he's young enough but needs a but of luck to stay injury free for a while.

I agree for the great minor sides we've had there has been a lacking of top quality forwards but hard to get a proper read of with the defensive nature of most of the games I have seen. Agree with O Doherty and I also like the cut of Shea McCann. Plenty of reasons to be optimistic.

[Derry Optimist]

In the new GAA football rules the two most important decisions in any pre match planning  will be first to select the best three starting defenders to mark the opposition's best three scoring forwards and vice versa the three most dangerous scoring forwards who will cause panic in the opposing defence.

 With the unavailability of Conor McCluskey and Padraig McGrogan for the League, presumably Paddy Tally will be selecting his best three man - markers from Conor Doherty, Eoin McEvoy, Gareth McKinless, Diarmuid Baker,Donncha Gilmore,Shea Downey and Martin Bradley.

 He will indeed have a bit of a dilemma here as McEvoy, McKinless and Baker are all excellent runners who can not only assist the forwards but can take their own scores.

The other most three important players under the new rules is to decide which three players present the most attacking threat. I would suggest that Derry's best attacking forwards in this area would be Paul Cassidy, Shane McGuigan and Lachlan Murray. Undoubtedly other combinations in both the defensive back three and the forward three will be used during the course of any game but it would be important to know who the best three are to begin any game.

Any other posters out there with any ideas on the above? I concur with an earlier post by "tbrick" about the importance of having a tall ball winner. Good and all as Conor Glass and Brendan Rogers are we need an extra tall ball winner. Galway, Armagh, Kerry, Donegal, Mayo and Tyrone all have such a player. Maybe that is the thinking of Paddy Tally selecting Anton Tohill in the panel. He definitely has the required height. Whether or not he has the required skill level has yet to be seen.

[DuffleKing]

Not sure why people think there is going to be a load of 3v3 situations under these new rules.

[Mikhailov]

In the new GAA football rules the two most important decisions in any pre match planning  will be first to select the best three starting defenders to mark the opposition's best three scoring forwards and vice versa the three most dangerous scoring forwards who will cause panic in the opposing defence.

 With the unavailability of Conor McCluskey and Padraig McGrogan for the League, presumably Paddy Tally will be selecting his best three man - markers from Conor Doherty, Eoin McEvoy, Gareth McKinless, Diarmuid Baker,Donncha Gilmore,Shea Downey and Martin Bradley.

 He will indeed have a bit of a dilemma here as McEvoy, McKinless and Baker are all excellent runners who can not only assist the forwards but can take their own scores.

The other most three important players under the new rules is to decide which three players present the most attacking threat. I would suggest that Derry's best attacking forwards in this area would be Paul Cassidy, Shane McGuigan and Lachlan Murray. Undoubtedly other combinations in both the defensive back three and the forward three will be used during the course of any game but it would be important to know who the best three are to begin any game.

Any other posters out there with any ideas on the above? I concur with an earlier post by "tbrick" about the importance of having a tall ball winner. Good and all as Conor Glass and Brendan Rogers are we need an extra tall ball winner. Galway, Armagh, Kerry, Donegal, Mayo and Tyrone all have such a player. Maybe that is the thinking of Paddy Tally selecting Anton Tohill in the panel. He definitely has the required height. Whether or not he has the required skill level has yet to be seen.

There won't be any 3v3 scenarios so don't be panicking about that. The most important players will be the other 12

[Ryan O]

Not sure why people think there is going to be a load of 3v3 situations under these new rules.

Completely agree with this, I can honestly see the 3vs3 scenario they are hoping to create will actually just mean defensive set up just not going as deep.
Currently all set up with their own half now they just drop to between opposition 45 and half way line. The anticipated 3vs3
right up inside the the new arc I can't see happening.

[club football only]

Doherty is overrated and not a man to man marker,he will loose his place in the team when paudi is back!

[JoG2]

Doherty is overrated and not a man to man marker,he will loose his place in the team when paudi is back!

Questioning the accuracy of your forum moniker if the truth be known...

[Derry Optimist]

"Club football only" says Conor Doherty is not a man marker and will lose his place when Paudi McGrogan is back. I would like him to suggest the names of our best three defensive markers and who does he think Derry's six defenders should be if Conor is dropped when Paudi comes back?"

[jb77]

Big assumption that paudi comes back the same level he was playing at. The only time wont CD wont see that field is if his groin is giving bother again, his verticality, running and opportunistic scoring is very much needed

[oakleaflad]

"Club football only" says Conor Doherty is not a man marker and will lose his place when Paudi McGrogan is back. I would like him to suggest the names of our best three defensive markers and who does he think Derry's six defenders should be if Conor is dropped when Paudi comes back?"

I'd have McEvoy, Clucky and P McGrogan as our best proven man markers at this stage.
Provided McGrogan gets back to near his best and everyone fit I'd say you're still looking at a back 6 of Clucky, McEvoy, Baker, Doherty, McKinless and McGrogan.
Obviously a couple injuries there so other lads will get a chance to impress.

[Derry Dreamer]

 I agree totally with your first choice back 6 "Oakleaf." The big question is who  will replace Conor McCluskey and Padraig McGrogan when they are unavailable for the League. Which two from last year's panellists, Donncha Gilmore, Shea Downey, Mark Doherty or Martin Bradley would you select as suitable replacements for two such outstanding man - markers? Or would you consider someone else from the current panel?