China Coronavirus

[Milltown Row2]

But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides

100%. Everyone of good faith should be open to getting to the truth whatever that truth is. This whole getting offended/annoyed by people who argue from a different perspective is completely juvenile.

In regard to waiting on proper peer reviewed papers .... does anyone really detect a zest from those whole have influence at government or regulatory level to get answers? I see gaslighting and am reminded of the quote "It's hard to convince a man of something where their salary depends on them NOT being convinced of it"

You agree in one hand and disagree with the other

As for its hard to convince a man where their salary depends on it, you put up a video yesterday where the guy was more obsessed about his subscriptions and likes than the topic at hand, complaining about a whistleblower on AI and using AI at the same time.

I know people that nearly died catching covid though, but each to their own, and that's how it works.

Let people make up their own minds and move on, hopefully your medical hunches in the future keep you and whoever you make decisions for safe

The point is that "the people you know" is a poor basis for a scientific analysis of epidemiology, which needs to be done on a population basis in a scientific way.
Otherwise you end up with analysis like my uncle drove drunk for years and never crashed.

You are correct of course, and going down rabbit holes is not healthy lol

[lenny]

As someone who took the vaccine, I'm unsure what was the best course of action now. It never caused me or my family any issues, so I suppose no first hand negative impact that we're aware off.

I know of two people who did not take it and both struggling badly with Long Covid at the min. Whether the vaccine would have prevented this, I don't know. There were and are a lot of unknowns. But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides. Perhaps there were higher than normal reactions to this vaccine. There definitely seems to be a lot of info floating out there. How much is genuine or not, it's hard to know given the level of disinformation. Generally proper peer reviewed work is slow to emerge, and for a reason. To look at stats without causation is a sure fire way to jump to conclusions.
 

Still haven't come across a single person who has had any adverse effects from the vaccine. I know quite a few who've had significant issues from getting covid most of those being unvaxxed. I'm quite aware that doesnt prove a thing of course. I think we'll see over time that getting the vaccine was unquestionably the correct decision.

[From the Bunker]

As someone who took the vaccine, I'm unsure what was the best course of action now. It never caused me or my family any issues, so I suppose no first hand negative impact that we're aware off.

I know of two people who did not take it and both struggling badly with Long Covid at the min. Whether the vaccine would have prevented this, I don't know. There were and are a lot of unknowns. But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides. Perhaps there were higher than normal reactions to this vaccine. There definitely seems to be a lot of info floating out there. How much is genuine or not, it's hard to know given the level of disinformation. Generally proper peer reviewed work is slow to emerge, and for a reason. To look at stats without causation is a sure fire way to jump to conclusions.
 

Still haven't come across a single person who has had any adverse effects from the vaccine. I know quite a few who've had significant issues from getting covid most of those being unvaxxed. I'm quite aware that doesnt prove a thing of course. I think we'll see over time that getting the vaccine was unquestionably the correct decision.

Even if there was issues, Would we ever know of these people who were affected or died. How would we? Who would look there? Who is going to prove it? Can you imagine the mayhem? The medical profession would lose all creditability.

[Milltown Row2]

It seems like most things around such topics, people will only see what they want and disregard any other information that doesn't suit their agenda

[trueblue1234]

As someone who took the vaccine, I'm unsure what was the best course of action now. It never caused me or my family any issues, so I suppose no first hand negative impact that we're aware off.

I know of two people who did not take it and both struggling badly with Long Covid at the min. Whether the vaccine would have prevented this, I don't know. There were and are a lot of unknowns. But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides. Perhaps there were higher than normal reactions to this vaccine. There definitely seems to be a lot of info floating out there. How much is genuine or not, it's hard to know given the level of disinformation. Generally proper peer reviewed work is slow to emerge, and for a reason. To look at stats without causation is a sure fire way to jump to conclusions.
 

Still haven't come across a single person who has had any adverse effects from the vaccine. I know quite a few who've had significant issues from getting covid most of those being unvaxxed. I'm quite aware that doesnt prove a thing of course. I think we'll see over time that getting the vaccine was unquestionably the correct decision.

Even if there was issues, Would we ever know of these people who were affected or died. How would we? Who would look there? Who is going to prove it? Can you imagine the mayhem? The medical profession would lose all creditability.

So do you just assume the worst?

[Milltown Row2]

As someone who took the vaccine, I'm unsure what was the best course of action now. It never caused me or my family any issues, so I suppose no first hand negative impact that we're aware off.

I know of two people who did not take it and both struggling badly with Long Covid at the min. Whether the vaccine would have prevented this, I don't know. There were and are a lot of unknowns. But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides. Perhaps there were higher than normal reactions to this vaccine. There definitely seems to be a lot of info floating out there. How much is genuine or not, it's hard to know given the level of disinformation. Generally proper peer reviewed work is slow to emerge, and for a reason. To look at stats without causation is a sure fire way to jump to conclusions.
 

Still haven't come across a single person who has had any adverse effects from the vaccine. I know quite a few who've had significant issues from getting covid most of those being unvaxxed. I'm quite aware that doesnt prove a thing of course. I think we'll see over time that getting the vaccine was unquestionably the correct decision.

Even if there was issues, Would we ever know of these people who were affected or died. How would we? Who would look there? Who is going to prove it? Can you imagine the mayhem? The medical profession would lose all creditability.

So do you just assume the worst?

I don't know sh!t

And thats where that post should stop.
During that time nobody knew much about it, but it didn't stop people thinking those that were dying saying it was fake!

I enjoyed the time off, I'll not get another 3 months off unless I'm dead or retired

[From the Bunker]

As someone who took the vaccine, I'm unsure what was the best course of action now. It never caused me or my family any issues, so I suppose no first hand negative impact that we're aware off.

I know of two people who did not take it and both struggling badly with Long Covid at the min. Whether the vaccine would have prevented this, I don't know. There were and are a lot of unknowns. But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides. Perhaps there were higher than normal reactions to this vaccine. There definitely seems to be a lot of info floating out there. How much is genuine or not, it's hard to know given the level of disinformation. Generally proper peer reviewed work is slow to emerge, and for a reason. To look at stats without causation is a sure fire way to jump to conclusions.
 

Still haven't come across a single person who has had any adverse effects from the vaccine. I know quite a few who've had significant issues from getting covid most of those being unvaxxed. I'm quite aware that doesnt prove a thing of course. I think we'll see over time that getting the vaccine was unquestionably the correct decision.

Even if there was issues, Would we ever know of these people who were affected or died. How would we? Who would look there? Who is going to prove it? Can you imagine the mayhem? The medical profession would lose all creditability.

So do you just assume the worst?

I don't know sh!t

I enjoyed the time off, I'll not get another 3 months off unless I'm dead or retired

And that's where you were suckered in and where your post should stop!

[Milltown Row2]

As someone who took the vaccine, I'm unsure what was the best course of action now. It never caused me or my family any issues, so I suppose no first hand negative impact that we're aware off.

I know of two people who did not take it and both struggling badly with Long Covid at the min. Whether the vaccine would have prevented this, I don't know. There were and are a lot of unknowns. But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides. Perhaps there were higher than normal reactions to this vaccine. There definitely seems to be a lot of info floating out there. How much is genuine or not, it's hard to know given the level of disinformation. Generally proper peer reviewed work is slow to emerge, and for a reason. To look at stats without causation is a sure fire way to jump to conclusions.
 

Still haven't come across a single person who has had any adverse effects from the vaccine. I know quite a few who've had significant issues from getting covid most of those being unvaxxed. I'm quite aware that doesnt prove a thing of course. I think we'll see over time that getting the vaccine was unquestionably the correct decision.

Even if there was issues, Would we ever know of these people who were affected or died. How would we? Who would look there? Who is going to prove it? Can you imagine the mayhem? The medical profession would lose all creditability.

So do you just assume the worst?

I don't know sh!t

I enjoyed the time off, I'll not get another 3 months off unless I'm dead or retired

And that's where you were suckered in and where your post should stop!

Hopefully I get suckered in on full pay again for three months

[From the Bunker]

As someone who took the vaccine, I'm unsure what was the best course of action now. It never caused me or my family any issues, so I suppose no first hand negative impact that we're aware off.

I know of two people who did not take it and both struggling badly with Long Covid at the min. Whether the vaccine would have prevented this, I don't know. There were and are a lot of unknowns. But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides. Perhaps there were higher than normal reactions to this vaccine. There definitely seems to be a lot of info floating out there. How much is genuine or not, it's hard to know given the level of disinformation. Generally proper peer reviewed work is slow to emerge, and for a reason. To look at stats without causation is a sure fire way to jump to conclusions.
 

Still haven't come across a single person who has had any adverse effects from the vaccine. I know quite a few who've had significant issues from getting covid most of those being unvaxxed. I'm quite aware that doesnt prove a thing of course. I think we'll see over time that getting the vaccine was unquestionably the correct decision.

Even if there was issues, Would we ever know of these people who were affected or died. How would we? Who would look there? Who is going to prove it? Can you imagine the mayhem? The medical profession would lose all creditability.

So do you just assume the worst?

I don't know sh!t

I enjoyed the time off, I'll not get another 3 months off unless I'm dead or retired

And that's where you were suckered in and where your post should stop!

Hopefully I get suckered in on full pay again for three months

Oh my god ........ the least said about that the better. 

[Milltown Row2]

As someone who took the vaccine, I'm unsure what was the best course of action now. It never caused me or my family any issues, so I suppose no first hand negative impact that we're aware off.

I know of two people who did not take it and both struggling badly with Long Covid at the min. Whether the vaccine would have prevented this, I don't know. There were and are a lot of unknowns. But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides. Perhaps there were higher than normal reactions to this vaccine. There definitely seems to be a lot of info floating out there. How much is genuine or not, it's hard to know given the level of disinformation. Generally proper peer reviewed work is slow to emerge, and for a reason. To look at stats without causation is a sure fire way to jump to conclusions.
 

Still haven't come across a single person who has had any adverse effects from the vaccine. I know quite a few who've had significant issues from getting covid most of those being unvaxxed. I'm quite aware that doesnt prove a thing of course. I think we'll see over time that getting the vaccine was unquestionably the correct decision.

Even if there was issues, Would we ever know of these people who were affected or died. How would we? Who would look there? Who is going to prove it? Can you imagine the mayhem? The medical profession would lose all creditability.

So do you just assume the worst?

I don't know sh!t

I enjoyed the time off, I'll not get another 3 months off unless I'm dead or retired

And that's where you were suckered in and where your post should stop!

Hopefully I get suckered in on full pay again for three months

Oh my god ........ the least said about that the better. 

my intuition tells me it won't happen again, but I'll be ready

[From the Bunker]

As someone who took the vaccine, I'm unsure what was the best course of action now. It never caused me or my family any issues, so I suppose no first hand negative impact that we're aware off.

I know of two people who did not take it and both struggling badly with Long Covid at the min. Whether the vaccine would have prevented this, I don't know. There were and are a lot of unknowns. But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides. Perhaps there were higher than normal reactions to this vaccine. There definitely seems to be a lot of info floating out there. How much is genuine or not, it's hard to know given the level of disinformation. Generally proper peer reviewed work is slow to emerge, and for a reason. To look at stats without causation is a sure fire way to jump to conclusions.
 

Still haven't come across a single person who has had any adverse effects from the vaccine. I know quite a few who've had significant issues from getting covid most of those being unvaxxed. I'm quite aware that doesnt prove a thing of course. I think we'll see over time that getting the vaccine was unquestionably the correct decision.

Even if there was issues, Would we ever know of these people who were affected or died. How would we? Who would look there? Who is going to prove it? Can you imagine the mayhem? The medical profession would lose all creditability.

So do you just assume the worst?

I don't know sh!t

I enjoyed the time off, I'll not get another 3 months off unless I'm dead or retired

And that's where you were suckered in and where your post should stop!

Hopefully I get suckered in on full pay again for three months

Oh my god ........ the least said about that the better. 

my intuition tells me it won't happen again, but I'll be ready

You let yourself down badly there..... Nothing more to see here.

[Milltown Row2]

As someone who took the vaccine, I'm unsure what was the best course of action now. It never caused me or my family any issues, so I suppose no first hand negative impact that we're aware off.

I know of two people who did not take it and both struggling badly with Long Covid at the min. Whether the vaccine would have prevented this, I don't know. There were and are a lot of unknowns. But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides. Perhaps there were higher than normal reactions to this vaccine. There definitely seems to be a lot of info floating out there. How much is genuine or not, it's hard to know given the level of disinformation. Generally proper peer reviewed work is slow to emerge, and for a reason. To look at stats without causation is a sure fire way to jump to conclusions.
 

Still haven't come across a single person who has had any adverse effects from the vaccine. I know quite a few who've had significant issues from getting covid most of those being unvaxxed. I'm quite aware that doesnt prove a thing of course. I think we'll see over time that getting the vaccine was unquestionably the correct decision.

Even if there was issues, Would we ever know of these people who were affected or died. How would we? Who would look there? Who is going to prove it? Can you imagine the mayhem? The medical profession would lose all creditability.

So do you just assume the worst?

I don't know sh!t

I enjoyed the time off, I'll not get another 3 months off unless I'm dead or retired

And that's where you were suckered in and where your post should stop!

Hopefully I get suckered in on full pay again for three months

Oh my god ........ the least said about that the better. 

my intuition tells me it won't happen again, but I'll be ready

You let yourself down badly there..... Nothing more to see here.

Did I? Says the person who refused to let his family make their own decisions... on a hunch

[From the Bunker]

As someone who took the vaccine, I'm unsure what was the best course of action now. It never caused me or my family any issues, so I suppose no first hand negative impact that we're aware off.

I know of two people who did not take it and both struggling badly with Long Covid at the min. Whether the vaccine would have prevented this, I don't know. There were and are a lot of unknowns. But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides. Perhaps there were higher than normal reactions to this vaccine. There definitely seems to be a lot of info floating out there. How much is genuine or not, it's hard to know given the level of disinformation. Generally proper peer reviewed work is slow to emerge, and for a reason. To look at stats without causation is a sure fire way to jump to conclusions.
 

Still haven't come across a single person who has had any adverse effects from the vaccine. I know quite a few who've had significant issues from getting covid most of those being unvaxxed. I'm quite aware that doesnt prove a thing of course. I think we'll see over time that getting the vaccine was unquestionably the correct decision.

Even if there was issues, Would we ever know of these people who were affected or died. How would we? Who would look there? Who is going to prove it? Can you imagine the mayhem? The medical profession would lose all creditability.

So do you just assume the worst?

I don't know sh!t

I enjoyed the time off, I'll not get another 3 months off unless I'm dead or retired

And that's where you were suckered in and where your post should stop!

Hopefully I get suckered in on full pay again for three months

Oh my god ........ the least said about that the better. 

my intuition tells me it won't happen again, but I'll be ready

You let yourself down badly there..... Nothing more to see here.

Did I? Says the person who refused to let his family make their own decisions... on a hunch

Are we getting a little upset? 

[Seamus]

As someone who took the vaccine, I'm unsure what was the best course of action now. It never caused me or my family any issues, so I suppose no first hand negative impact that we're aware off.

I know of two people who did not take it and both struggling badly with Long Covid at the min. Whether the vaccine would have prevented this, I don't know. There were and are a lot of unknowns. But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides. Perhaps there were higher than normal reactions to this vaccine. There definitely seems to be a lot of info floating out there. How much is genuine or not, it's hard to know given the level of disinformation. Generally proper peer reviewed work is slow to emerge, and for a reason. To look at stats without causation is a sure fire way to jump to conclusions.
 

Still haven't come across a single person who has had any adverse effects from the vaccine. I know quite a few who've had significant issues from getting covid most of those being unvaxxed. I'm quite aware that doesnt prove a thing of course. I think we'll see over time that getting the vaccine was unquestionably the correct decision.

You must be living in the smallest bubble that ever existed, d-dimer tests, VAERS, which only reports 10% at best (closer to 1%) along with autopsies tell a completely different story. 

[Seamus]

As someone who took the vaccine, I'm unsure what was the best course of action now. It never caused me or my family any issues, so I suppose no first hand negative impact that we're aware off.

I know of two people who did not take it and both struggling badly with Long Covid at the min. Whether the vaccine would have prevented this, I don't know. There were and are a lot of unknowns. But people preaching one side without offering full balance should be careful. And I mean that from both sides. Perhaps there were higher than normal reactions to this vaccine. There definitely seems to be a lot of info floating out there. How much is genuine or not, it's hard to know given the level of disinformation. Generally proper peer reviewed work is slow to emerge, and for a reason. To look at stats without causation is a sure fire way to jump to conclusions.
 

I posted plenty articles of peer reviewed work here but at least 90% have no interest in reading them. Coincidentally that percentage correlates with the amount of Irish people who are fully vaccinated, the largest percentage in Europe if not the world. Same with the boosters. This is mainly due to the massive control that the fake Irish media has over it's people.