Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

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seafoid

Israel has no post war plan for Gaza and no post war plan for Southern Lebanon.

https://youtu.be/kIdFzP0TJxc

Franko

Quote from: whitey on October 10, 2024, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 10, 2024, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 08, 2024, 09:39:01 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/08/videos-how-israel-flattened-lebanese-village/
A village in southern Lebanon has been all but levelled as Israel moves tanks across the border amid warnings of a repeat of Gaza.

Drone footage published online, verified by The Telegraph, shows destruction in Yaroun, approximately one mile from the Israeli border.

The video shows buildings reduced to rubble, as smoke rises over the top. Tanks and armoured vehicles can be assembled in the town's east.


So I assume Hezbollah in Lebanon don't live in caves and have modern media such as television and the internet

So based on Israel's response to October 7th in Gaza, what did Hezbollah think the Israeli reaction would be to them launching an attack on the Northern Border?

What we're they hoping to accomplish by sending hundreds of missiles into Israel?

None of these things happen in a vacuum

There's cause an effect

There are ranges of outcomes and likelihood of outcomes to consider before you attack someone


Without the slightest hint of irony

That's some set of blinkers

I'm a pragmatist

Hamas "represent" the people of Gaza

As their representatives, surely their safety and well-being should be of utmost importance

How did the atrocities perpetrated on October 7th benefit the civilian population of Gaza?

In no way did it help them

Since we now know you are aware of the cause and effect phenomenon you'll surely agree that it's unbelievably arbitrary to start the clock on that date

As a self confessed pragmatist, how would you expect a people held under a decades-long illegal occupation to react?

whitey

Quote from: Franko on October 10, 2024, 01:43:20 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 10, 2024, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 10, 2024, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 08, 2024, 09:39:01 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/08/videos-how-israel-flattened-lebanese-village/
A village in southern Lebanon has been all but levelled as Israel moves tanks across the border amid warnings of a repeat of Gaza.

Drone footage published online, verified by The Telegraph, shows destruction in Yaroun, approximately one mile from the Israeli border.

The video shows buildings reduced to rubble, as smoke rises over the top. Tanks and armoured vehicles can be assembled in the town's east.


So I assume Hezbollah in Lebanon don't live in caves and have modern media such as television and the internet

So based on Israel's response to October 7th in Gaza, what did Hezbollah think the Israeli reaction would be to them launching an attack on the Northern Border?

What we're they hoping to accomplish by sending hundreds of missiles into Israel?

None of these things happen in a vacuum

There's cause an effect

There are ranges of outcomes and likelihood of outcomes to consider before you attack someone


Without the slightest hint of irony

That's some set of blinkers

I'm a pragmatist

Hamas "represent" the people of Gaza

As their representatives, surely their safety and well-being should be of utmost importance

How did the atrocities perpetrated on October 7th benefit the civilian population of Gaza?

In no way did it help them

Since we now know you are aware of the cause and effect phenomenon you'll surely agree that it's unbelievably arbitrary to start the clock on that date

As a self confessed pragmatist, how would you expect a people held under a decades-long illegal occupation to react?

I would say that with their chief protagonist on the ropes, they should have let Netanyahus corruption trial play out before doing anything

Secondly I would have let Saudi's Arabia join the Abraham Accords and exerted pressure via the Saudi's

But there is a flaw in your question because the "people" are not Hamas. Did Hamas consults the "people" before  the October 7th attack

Also, following that logic, would you be supportive of Dissident Republicans if they reignited a sectarian conflict?


Franko

Quote from: whitey on October 10, 2024, 02:43:21 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 10, 2024, 01:43:20 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 10, 2024, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 10, 2024, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 08, 2024, 09:39:01 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/08/videos-how-israel-flattened-lebanese-village/
A village in southern Lebanon has been all but levelled as Israel moves tanks across the border amid warnings of a repeat of Gaza.

Drone footage published online, verified by The Telegraph, shows destruction in Yaroun, approximately one mile from the Israeli border.

The video shows buildings reduced to rubble, as smoke rises over the top. Tanks and armoured vehicles can be assembled in the town's east.


So I assume Hezbollah in Lebanon don't live in caves and have modern media such as television and the internet

So based on Israel's response to October 7th in Gaza, what did Hezbollah think the Israeli reaction would be to them launching an attack on the Northern Border?

What we're they hoping to accomplish by sending hundreds of missiles into Israel?

None of these things happen in a vacuum

There's cause an effect

There are ranges of outcomes and likelihood of outcomes to consider before you attack someone


Without the slightest hint of irony

That's some set of blinkers

I'm a pragmatist

Hamas "represent" the people of Gaza

As their representatives, surely their safety and well-being should be of utmost importance

How did the atrocities perpetrated on October 7th benefit the civilian population of Gaza?

In no way did it help them

Since we now know you are aware of the cause and effect phenomenon you'll surely agree that it's unbelievably arbitrary to start the clock on that date

As a self confessed pragmatist, how would you expect a people held under a decades-long illegal occupation to react?

I would say that with their chief protagonist on the ropes, they should have let Netanyahus corruption trial play out before doing anything

Secondly I would have let Saudi's Arabia join the Abraham Accords and exerted pressure via the Saudi's

But there is a flaw in your question because the "people" are not Hamas. Did Hamas consults the "people" before  the October 7th attack

Also, following that logic, would you be supportive of Dissident Republicans if they reignited a sectarian conflict?



1.
Their chief protagonist isn't Netanyahu, it Israel in general.  Netanyahu hasn't been about for 75 years.  He's only the current head of the snake

2.
Please stop this nonsense about the Abraham Accords.  You know full well that was a propaganda roadshow by Uncle Sam

3.
The Israeli government make no distinction between the people and Hamas, otherwise they wouldn't have murdered 40,000 of them.  Hamas are Gazans but Gazans are not Hamas.  There is no flaw in the question - it's just that the correct answer makes your earlier posts look silly

4.
Please explain how the 2 situations are analogous

Rossfan

#3589
Whitey's gang of war criminals have now fired on UN positions.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

whitey

Quote from: Franko on October 10, 2024, 03:23:47 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 10, 2024, 02:43:21 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 10, 2024, 01:43:20 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 10, 2024, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Franko on October 10, 2024, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 08, 2024, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 08, 2024, 09:39:01 PMhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/08/videos-how-israel-flattened-lebanese-village/
A village in southern Lebanon has been all but levelled as Israel moves tanks across the border amid warnings of a repeat of Gaza.

Drone footage published online, verified by The Telegraph, shows destruction in Yaroun, approximately one mile from the Israeli border.

The video shows buildings reduced to rubble, as smoke rises over the top. Tanks and armoured vehicles can be assembled in the town's east.


So I assume Hezbollah in Lebanon don't live in caves and have modern media such as television and the internet

So based on Israel's response to October 7th in Gaza, what did Hezbollah think the Israeli reaction would be to them launching an attack on the Northern Border?

What we're they hoping to accomplish by sending hundreds of missiles into Israel?

None of these things happen in a vacuum

There's cause an effect

There are ranges of outcomes and likelihood of outcomes to consider before you attack someone


Without the slightest hint of irony

That's some set of blinkers

I'm a pragmatist

Hamas "represent" the people of Gaza

As their representatives, surely their safety and well-being should be of utmost importance

How did the atrocities perpetrated on October 7th benefit the civilian population of Gaza?

In no way did it help them

Since we now know you are aware of the cause and effect phenomenon you'll surely agree that it's unbelievably arbitrary to start the clock on that date

As a self confessed pragmatist, how would you expect a people held under a decades-long illegal occupation to react?

I would say that with their chief protagonist on the ropes, they should have let Netanyahus corruption trial play out before doing anything

Secondly I would have let Saudi's Arabia join the Abraham Accords and exerted pressure via the Saudi's

But there is a flaw in your question because the "people" are not Hamas. Did Hamas consults the "people" before  the October 7th attack

Also, following that logic, would you be supportive of Dissident Republicans if they reignited a sectarian conflict?



1.
Their chief protagonist isn't Netanyahu, it Israel in general.  Netanyahu hasn't been about for 75 years.  He's only the current head of the snake

2.
Please stop this nonsense about the Abraham Accords.  You know full well that was a propaganda roadshow by Uncle Sam

3.
The Israeli government make no distinction between the people and Hamas, otherwise they wouldn't have murdered 40,000 of them.  Hamas are Gazans but Gazans are not Hamas.  There is no flaw in the question - it's just that the correct answer makes your earlier posts look silly

4.
Please explain how the 2 situations are analogous

We'll agree to disagree on 1 and 2


(3) Did Hamas consult the people of Gaza before conducting the attack?


(4) how would you expect the Catholic people of Northern Ireland who've been held under a decades-long illegal occupation to react?

seafoid


JoG2

Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2024, 03:33:55 PMFar more than 42000 have been murdered.

Upwards of 150k more like. Men, that racist emmigrant is an absolute disgrace, best avoided.. Like who spends so much time on a gaaboard and never discusses the gaa?

Truthsayer

Quote from: JoG2 on October 10, 2024, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2024, 03:33:55 PMFar more than 42000 have been murdered.

Upwards of 150k more like. Men, that racist emmigrant is an absolute disgrace, best avoided.. Like who spends so much time on a gaaboard and never discusses the gaa?
And mods let him justify genocide... 🤷

whitey

#3594
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 10, 2024, 04:17:37 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 10, 2024, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2024, 03:33:55 PMFar more than 42000 have been murdered.

Upwards of 150k more like. Men, that racist emmigrant is an absolute disgrace, best avoided.. Like who spends so much time on a gaaboard and never discusses the gaa?
And mods let him justify genocide... 🤷

Maybe the mods actually read my posts (unlike most of the people on here)

I have never once justified genocide, nor have I uttered one racist comment on here.

If you have evidence of me doing either please feel free to forward it onto the moderators and request that they ban me

My questions are what did Hamas hope to accomplish by their actions on October 7th and how did they think Israel would react?




Truthsayer

Quote from: whitey on October 10, 2024, 04:28:54 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 10, 2024, 04:17:37 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 10, 2024, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2024, 03:33:55 PMFar more than 42000 have been murdered.

Upwards of 150k more like. Men, that racist emmigrant is an absolute disgrace, best avoided.. Like who spends so much time on a gaaboard and never discusses the gaa?
And mods let him justify genocide... 🤷

Maybe the mods actually read my posts (unlike most of the people on here)

I have never once justified genocide, nor have I uttered one racist comment on here

My questions are what did Hamas hope to accomplish by their actions on October 7th and how did they think Israel would react?




As I say..  justifying genocide.

Taylor

Quote from: whitey on October 10, 2024, 04:28:54 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 10, 2024, 04:17:37 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 10, 2024, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2024, 03:33:55 PMFar more than 42000 have been murdered.

Upwards of 150k more like. Men, that racist emmigrant is an absolute disgrace, best avoided.. Like who spends so much time on a gaaboard and never discusses the gaa?
And mods let him justify genocide... 🤷

Maybe the mods actually read my posts (unlike most of the people on here)

I have never once justified genocide, nor have I uttered one racist comment on here.

If you have evidence of me doing either please feel free to forward it onto the moderators and request that they ban me

My questions are what did Hamas hope to accomplish by their actions on October 7th and how did they think Israel would react?





Lets not start the conversation in 2023.

The question should be what do Israel hope to achieve by keeping millions of people in an open air prison for decades?

What did they think would eventually happen?

JoG2

Quote from: Truthsayer on October 10, 2024, 04:17:37 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 10, 2024, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2024, 03:33:55 PMFar more than 42000 have been murdered.

Upwards of 150k more like. Men, that racist emmigrant is an absolute disgrace, best avoided.. Like who spends so much time on a gaaboard and never discusses the gaa?
And mods let him justify genocide... 🤷

This is the forum version of Deadwood

AustinPowers

Quote from: Taylor on October 10, 2024, 04:51:04 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 10, 2024, 04:28:54 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 10, 2024, 04:17:37 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 10, 2024, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2024, 03:33:55 PMFar more than 42000 have been murdered.

Upwards of 150k more like. Men, that racist emmigrant is an absolute disgrace, best avoided.. Like who spends so much time on a gaaboard and never discusses the gaa?
And mods let him justify genocide... 🤷

Maybe the mods actually read my posts (unlike most of the people on here)

I have never once justified genocide, nor have I uttered one racist comment on here.

If you have evidence of me doing either please feel free to forward it onto the moderators and request that they ban me

My questions are what did Hamas hope to accomplish by their actions on October 7th and how did they think Israel would react?





Lets not start the conversation in 2023.

The question should be what do Israel hope to achieve by keeping millions of people in an open air prison for decades?

What did they think would eventually happen?

You beat me to it

whitey

Quote from: AustinPowers on October 10, 2024, 05:09:04 PM
Quote from: Taylor on October 10, 2024, 04:51:04 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 10, 2024, 04:28:54 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on October 10, 2024, 04:17:37 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on October 10, 2024, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 10, 2024, 03:33:55 PMFar more than 42000 have been murdered.

Upwards of 150k more like. Men, that racist emmigrant is an absolute disgrace, best avoided.. Like who spends so much time on a gaaboard and never discusses the gaa?
And mods let him justify genocide... 🤷

Maybe the mods actually read my posts (unlike most of the people on here)

I have never once justified genocide, nor have I uttered one racist comment on here.

If you have evidence of me doing either please feel free to forward it onto the moderators and request that they ban me

My questions are what did Hamas hope to accomplish by their actions on October 7th and how did they think Israel would react?





Lets not start the conversation in 2023.

The question should be what do Israel hope to achieve by keeping millions of people in an open air prison for decades?

What did they think would eventually happen?

You beat me to it
Maybe when Hamas were elected in 2005 (and the Israelis withdrew) they shouldn't have murdered all their opposition and restarted a war that essentially had ended