Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[Milltown Row2]

Have you any more history lessons soupy?

At what point do you go back in history to validate the Israeli rule in that area?

Is it just dates that suit?

[johnnycool]

None of these events occur in a vacuum

What the Hamas apologists on here fail to acknowledge is that there were real prospects for a lasting peace in 2005/2006

Hamas violently suppressed and actually murdered the more moderate Fatah

Fast forward to the Trump Presidency and once again there was serious progress being made in Arab/Israeli relations with the signing of the Abraham Accords

It was possible that Saudi Arabia was going to sign up

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R48162#:~:text=Press%20reports%20since%20early%202023,U.S.%20strategic%20competitors%2C%20or%20both.

That would have been a game changer

With things looking like they were  heading in the right direction why did Hamas not let things play out?

They crossed a line that was only going to lead to one thing-an Israeli ground invasion and the inevitable carnage ghat followed

Shame on them and shame on all you for covering for them

Guess who (along with Hamas) didn't support the peace accord in 2005/2006? Edit "Oslo Accord", Look-Up is factually correct on this one

Go on have a guess?

I'll give you a clue, his family are Polish, moved to Palestine and changed their name from Mileikowsky and aren't even Semites..

[Look-Up!]

None of these events occur in a vacuum

What the Hamas apologists on here fail to acknowledge is that there were real prospects for a lasting peace in 2005/2006

Hamas violently suppressed and actually murdered the more moderate Fatah

Fast forward to the Trump Presidency and once again there was serious progress being made in Arab/Israeli relations with the signing of the Abraham Accords

It was possible that Saudi Arabia was going to sign up

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R48162#:~:text=Press%20reports%20since%20early%202023,U.S.%20strategic%20competitors%2C%20or%20both.

That would have been a game changer

With things looking like they were  heading in the right direction why did Hamas not let things play out?

They crossed a line that was only going to lead to one thing-an Israeli ground invasion and the inevitable carnage ghat followed

Shame on them and shame on all you for covering for them

Guess who (along with Hamas) didn't support the peace accord in 2005/2006?

Go on have a guess?

I'll give you a clue, his family are Polish, moved to Palestine and changed their name from Mileikowsky and aren't even Semites..

I'm starting to agree with most of the posters on here, little point discussing anything with him. That's some twist on history he has, refuses to see any other alternatives.

Some spin to call the Abraham Accords a "game changer" in Arab Israeli relations. It was a Sunni Arab Israeli coalition set up against Shiite Iran, eagerly supported by the US. Involved annexation of 30% of the West Bank as well. A peace process it was not.

The Oslo accords however, that was a legitimate attempt at peace between Palestinians and surrounding Arab states. Wonder what happened to the main guy behind them or who was his main nemesis? But it never happened in Whitey's world. But it's all pointless, anyone thinks Netanyahu wants peace with Palestinians is insane.

[seafoid]

https://www.ft.com/content/e30920aa-ba02-4dac-85ed-377355ab3674

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Tuesday released a video message in which he called on the Lebanese population to rise up against Hizbollah, urging them to "save" their country "before it falls into an abyss of destruction and suffering like Gaza".

[Rossfan]

The piece of war criminal murdering sh1te.
As if what's happened in Gaza is nothing to do with him.

In other words "we're not going to beat Hezbollah so we need someone else to suffer major loss of life fighting them"

[seafoid]

The piece of war criminal murdering sh1te.
As if what's happened in Gaza is nothing to do with him.

In other words "we're not going to beat Hezbollah so we need someone else to suffer major loss of life fighting them"

It's Cromwell live. Knockcrogery was where the OKellys were hanged just like Israeli soldiers murder indiscriminately today.

[From the Bunker]

A piece of shit is a piece of Shit.
Only well meaning rational people would expect anything else.
But he is not in the category.
He has free reign to do and say what he wants.
And he will do what he wants with no repercussions.
The only hold back is the world economic dependency on oil in the region.
Iranian attacks on Iraqi oil fields controlled by the US or a blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, would cause caos.
A third of the world's liquefied natural gas and almost a quarter of total global oil consumption passes through the strait, making it a highly important strategic location for international trade

[Look-Up!]

It would appear that is what he's trying to do anyway.

I mean something will eventually be a step too far for the "international" world. I don't know what is given what has already gone on mind you but jesus where does it stop.

The presence of UN peacekeepers leaves Israel having to be more careful with how they conduct their assaults. If they were to pull out, Israel could escalate. As for now I think they know that the killing of UN peacekeepers would be a step too far even for them.

Heard an interview today from an IDF fella and the tone seemed to be we asked you to leave so if you're killed it's your own fault. We'll have to wait and see what happens

Not only IDF and not even making out it could be accidental.

https://www.thejournal.ie/republican-adviser-says-israel-should-drop-napalm-over-irish-peacekeepers-in-lebanon-6509640-Oct2024/

Matthew RJ Brodsky eh, what a keeper.

[Armagh18]

It would appear that is what he's trying to do anyway.

I mean something will eventually be a step too far for the "international" world. I don't know what is given what has already gone on mind you but jesus where does it stop.

The presence of UN peacekeepers leaves Israel having to be more careful with how they conduct their assaults. If they were to pull out, Israel could escalate. As for now I think they know that the killing of UN peacekeepers would be a step too far even for them.

Heard an interview today from an IDF fella and the tone seemed to be we asked you to leave so if you're killed it's your own fault. We'll have to wait and see what happens

Not only IDF and not even making out it could be accidental.

https://www.thejournal.ie/republican-adviser-says-israel-should-drop-napalm-over-irish-peacekeepers-in-lebanon-6509640-Oct2024/

Matthew RJ Brodsky eh, what a keeper.

What a vile little p***k. Although theres a poster on here probably agrees with him.

[Truthsayer]

It would appear that is what he's trying to do anyway.

I mean something will eventually be a step too far for the "international" world. I don't know what is given what has already gone on mind you but jesus where does it stop.

The presence of UN peacekeepers leaves Israel having to be more careful with how they conduct their assaults. If they were to pull out, Israel could escalate. As for now I think they know that the killing of UN peacekeepers would be a step too far even for them.

Heard an interview today from an IDF fella and the tone seemed to be we asked you to leave so if you're killed it's your own fault. We'll have to wait and see what happens

Not only IDF and not even making out it could be accidental.

https://www.thejournal.ie/republican-adviser-says-israel-should-drop-napalm-over-irish-peacekeepers-in-lebanon-6509640-Oct2024/

Matthew RJ Brodsky eh, what a keeper.

Are we surprised? That's the level of far right US evil that is supporting Israel's genocide... Biden's camp included.

[seafoid]

https://www.ft.com/content/24b9ff5d-9788-455e-91df-720c1e9abcd7

 But Washington has also warned Israel against overplaying its hand, insisting there should be a path back to a truce. When Netanyahu on Tuesday warned the Lebanese people in a video address to root out Hizbollah or face similar destruction to what Israel inflicted on Gaza, Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House press secretary, responded: "We cannot and will not see Lebanon turn into Gaza — into another Gaza." Other US officials have said Israel needs to develop a better long-term vision for its place in the Middle East. "The challenge going forward is to turn tactical wins in battle into a strategy that secures Israel's people and its future," Jake Sullivan, Biden's national security adviser, said at an event at the Israeli embassy in Washington this week. "That takes real discipline, it takes courage, it takes foresight to match the conduct of war to a clear and sustainable set of objectives. That is never easy, but it's imperative," he added.

[Franko]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/08/videos-how-israel-flattened-lebanese-village/
A village in southern Lebanon has been all but levelled as Israel moves tanks across the border amid warnings of a repeat of Gaza.

Drone footage published online, verified by The Telegraph, shows destruction in Yaroun, approximately one mile from the Israeli border.

The video shows buildings reduced to rubble, as smoke rises over the top. Tanks and armoured vehicles can be assembled in the town's east.

So I assume Hezbollah in Lebanon don't live in caves and have modern media such as television and the internet

So based on Israel's response to October 7th in Gaza, what did Hezbollah think the Israeli reaction would be to them launching an attack on the Northern Border?

What we're they hoping to accomplish by sending hundreds of missiles into Israel?

None of these things happen in a vacuum

There's cause an effect

There are ranges of outcomes and likelihood of outcomes to consider before you attack someone

Without the slightest hint of irony

That's some set of blinkers

[whitey]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/10/08/videos-how-israel-flattened-lebanese-village/
A village in southern Lebanon has been all but levelled as Israel moves tanks across the border amid warnings of a repeat of Gaza.

Drone footage published online, verified by The Telegraph, shows destruction in Yaroun, approximately one mile from the Israeli border.

The video shows buildings reduced to rubble, as smoke rises over the top. Tanks and armoured vehicles can be assembled in the town's east.

So I assume Hezbollah in Lebanon don't live in caves and have modern media such as television and the internet

So based on Israel's response to October 7th in Gaza, what did Hezbollah think the Israeli reaction would be to them launching an attack on the Northern Border?

What we're they hoping to accomplish by sending hundreds of missiles into Israel?

None of these things happen in a vacuum

There's cause an effect

There are ranges of outcomes and likelihood of outcomes to consider before you attack someone

Without the slightest hint of irony

That's some set of blinkers

I'm a pragmatist

Hamas "represent" the people of Gaza

As their representatives, surely their safety and well-being should be of utmost importance

How did the atrocities perpetrated on October 7th benefit the civilian population of Gaza?

[seafoid]

How does murdering medical staff make Israel safer?

[seafoid]

Israel is punishing the civilians of South Lebanon.  This will not end well. Even if Hezbollah is forced north of the Litani river the north of Israel will still be in rocket range.