The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[marty34]

Szmodics is older than Idah and any team buying him is likely to factor in that there is no resale value so likely to have a lower ceiling price.
As a comparison Cardiff City centre-back Mark McGuinness is set to join Championship rivals Luton Town in a deal which could eventually be worth £10m. - 23 year old ROI youth international apparently at a similar price to Idah a full international and a striker so traditionally more costly.
They have probably overpaid compared to what could have been negotiated in January but from a football perspective it is better to have him in the squad than some extra money in the bank.

Not sure Idah's ceiling would ever be 27 goals in a championship season.

I'd rather have Idah too, than not have him, although I'm not sure there will ever be a big resale value one him, especially with the sell on fee.

I don't think the Idah sell on clauses matter that much, Idah will repay his fees (and wages) in kind over this season and the next. Anything gained after that is in bonus territory.

Idah's 9m fee is a relative pittance to what the board dished out for Sutton, Hartson et al.I didn't realise then just how much the board  went total left field with the transfer policy during Mon's time.

sutton, hartson, lennon all 6 million signings back then. Wonder what that would translate into now

That's nearly 25 years ago so it'd be big money now for sure. Just think, even nowadays, in 2024, Celtic spending £6m on a player would be rare enough.

I think that O'Neill must have said to the board, I need a treasure chest of money if I sign on as manager. That's the only thing I can think of.  It was speculate to accumulate type of thing and it worked. Got through to qualifiers in Champion's League and a UEFA Final V Porto.

Lawell and current board just want to count the coffers unfortunately. No real interest in Europe as Rangers are brutal and Celtic will win the SPL and go straight into CL qualifiers.

Changed times but if the Board were a bit more adventurous, they could push on a bit further. 

[NAG1]

Szmodics is older than Idah and any team buying him is likely to factor in that there is no resale value so likely to have a lower ceiling price.
As a comparison Cardiff City centre-back Mark McGuinness is set to join Championship rivals Luton Town in a deal which could eventually be worth £10m. - 23 year old ROI youth international apparently at a similar price to Idah a full international and a striker so traditionally more costly.
They have probably overpaid compared to what could have been negotiated in January but from a football perspective it is better to have him in the squad than some extra money in the bank.

Not sure Idah's ceiling would ever be 27 goals in a championship season.

I'd rather have Idah too, than not have him, although I'm not sure there will ever be a big resale value one him, especially with the sell on fee.

I don't think the Idah sell on clauses matter that much, Idah will repay his fees (and wages) in kind over this season and the next. Anything gained after that is in bonus territory.

Idah's 9m fee is a relative pittance to what the board dished out for Sutton, Hartson et al.I didn't realise then just how much the board  went total left field with the transfer policy during Mon's time.

sutton, hartson, lennon all 6 million signings back then. Wonder what that would translate into now

That's nearly 25 years ago so it'd be big money now for sure. Just think, even nowadays, in 2024, Celtic spending £6m on a player would be rare enough.

I think that O'Neill must have said to the board, I need a treasure chest of money if I sign on as manager. That's the only thing I can think of.  It was speculate to accumulate type of thing and it worked. Got through to qualifiers in Champion's League and a UEFA Final V Porto.

Lawell and current board just want to count the coffers unfortunately. No real interest in Europe as Rangers are brutal and Celtic will win the SPL and go straight into CL qualifiers.

Changed times but if the Board were a bit more adventurous, they could push on a bit further. 

Not denying anything you are saying, but the question is, push on to what?

It would take 100's of millions to compete at CL level and even at that clubs who have invested those types of sums can't compete.

So what are the options? Hard to attract even mid level players to the league when it is so uncompetitive.

Victim of their own success unfortunately.

[tyroneman]

Sevco made the Europa final recently with an inferior team.

Not unreasonable an expectation for Celtic to be competitive in it also (assuming they can land there after CL)

[clonian]

Szmodics is older than Idah and any team buying him is likely to factor in that there is no resale value so likely to have a lower ceiling price.
As a comparison Cardiff City centre-back Mark McGuinness is set to join Championship rivals Luton Town in a deal which could eventually be worth £10m. - 23 year old ROI youth international apparently at a similar price to Idah a full international and a striker so traditionally more costly.
They have probably overpaid compared to what could have been negotiated in January but from a football perspective it is better to have him in the squad than some extra money in the bank.

Not sure Idah's ceiling would ever be 27 goals in a championship season.

I'd rather have Idah too, than not have him, although I'm not sure there will ever be a big resale value one him, especially with the sell on fee.

I don't think the Idah sell on clauses matter that much, Idah will repay his fees (and wages) in kind over this season and the next. Anything gained after that is in bonus territory.

Idah's 9m fee is a relative pittance to what the board dished out for Sutton, Hartson et al.I didn't realise then just how much the board  went total left field with the transfer policy during Mon's time.

sutton, hartson, lennon all 6 million signings back then. Wonder what that would translate into now

That's nearly 25 years ago so it'd be big money now for sure. Just think, even nowadays, in 2024, Celtic spending £6m on a player would be rare enough.

I think that O'Neill must have said to the board, I need a treasure chest of money if I sign on as manager. That's the only thing I can think of.  It was speculate to accumulate type of thing and it worked. Got through to qualifiers in Champion's League and a UEFA Final V Porto.

Lawell and current board just want to count the coffers unfortunately. No real interest in Europe as Rangers are brutal and Celtic will win the SPL and go straight into CL qualifiers.

Changed times but if the Board were a bit more adventurous, they could push on a bit further. 

Not denying anything you are saying, but the question is, push on to what?

It would take 100's of millions to compete at CL level and even at that clubs who have invested those types of sums can't compete.

So what are the options? Hard to attract even mid level players to the league when it is so uncompetitive.

Victim of their own success unfortunately.

Could Celtic turn the head of someone like Scott McTominay? I know they wouldn't pay up the £25million and he might not be the player you want at the minute but could a transfer like that be a realistic target?
Rumour was that BR tried hard to bring him to Celtic in his last spell and was close to getting the deal done.

[illdecide]

Scott McTominay is not a target for Celtic for his fee and wages. That man is probably on in or around £100k a week plus £30m transfer so we'll rule that one out.
We've 7 days to get the finger out of our hole and get 4 players in which is looking unlikely at this stage, as much as I like Scales and a good lad he's not going to improve the team and Taylor at LB who is actually a great wee player and is super fit and gets stuck in he's vulnerable at LB due to his pace and size and is targeted every game in CL (and rightly so). MOR needs replaced and def one more midfielder or winger. That's my 4 as I don't expect Kyogo to leave and the Man City thing is just a thought with no official bid thus far.
Clock is ticking Celtic...

[Targetman]

O'Riley away for £30 million, massive loss to the team as he's been fantastic for us, how much of that fee will Rodgers get for a replacement, big week ahead in terms of transfers, won't be getting too excited!!

[JimStynes]

O'Riley away for £30 million, massive loss to the team as he's been fantastic for us, how much of that fee will Rodgers get for a replacement, big week ahead in terms of transfers, won't be getting too excited!!

Brilliant business from Celtic all the same. Was it £1.5m he was bought for? Let's hope there's 4/5 lads come in asap.

[JimStynes]

O'Riley away for £30 million, massive loss to the team as he's been fantastic for us, how much of that fee will Rodgers get for a replacement, big week ahead in terms of transfers, won't be getting too excited!!

Brilliant business from Celtic all the same. Was it £1.5m he was bought for? Let's hope there's 4/5 lads come in asap.

More than likely going to be sitting here raging next week when Celtic have signed 1 player and much weaker going into the season 🤦🏻

[Main Street]

Pity its a smallish club like Brighton, even though its EPL, its still a football limbo of sorts until he gets a transfer to a top club, not unlike VVD at Southampton. AFAIC he could slot into most top teams.

[marty34]

He was always going to go this summer, just a matter of to where.

He seems to be a good young pro by all accounts. Kept his head down, didn't huff and just got on ith it. A manager's dream to work with.

Good business by Celtic. I don't think Kyogo will go. He changed his agent recently and I'd say his new agent has put this out there (Man City link) to attract attention but I can't see him going to City.

Celtic have saved a good bit in wages this summer - cleared a lot of kads off the books and trimmed up the squad.

I don't know who their talent scout (s) is but seems to be that the do very litte.  I can see why Rogers left the first time around.  Content to dominate poor competitions in Scotland but get shafted in Europe. 

[bannside]

BR might be content to dominate domestically for a few years and collect plenty of bonuses. His relationship with Lawell and probably Desmond is intact, I'd say he isn't rocking the boat too hard. Another three or four seasons beating the likes of St Mirren and Kilmarnock will leave him in a fantastic place financially.

And if you think that dosent matter to him, think of why he left to go to Leicester. Show me the money, Brendan.

While Lawell is there collecting massive end of year dividends and bonuses on the back of financial performance, don't expect any ambition on the pitch other than a run in the Europa.

At this stage BR is onside with them. That's the cartel that matters inside Celtic Pk, and Rodgers is complicit at this stage. Imo.

[illdecide]

I'm as frustrated as you guys but lets wait until Friday nite and see before we get the daggers out...I know history tells us we'll get shafted again but if that's the case come Friday nite then we can launch the knives (and not in the back...lol)

[tonto1888]

Wish OReilly nothing but the best. He gave us a few very good years.
A bit nervous about recruitment but won't give out until the window is closed

[Main Street]

You couldn't make this stuff up,
Matt O' Riley crocked by some idiot hard man Crawley Town hatchet job, some minute into his debut for Brighton.
Not even a yellow card was dished out.

[illdecide]

You couldn't make this stuff up,
Matt O' Riley crocked by some idiot hard man Crawley Town hatchet job, some minute into his debut for Brighton.
Not even a yellow card was dished out.

Seen that, pure idiot. was a red card and he never even got booked. 10 minutes into your debut too...

That's why i'm always in the "sell team" if the money is right for any player...they can get crocked at any time