All-Stars 2024

Started by Estimator, July 15, 2024, 10:41:08 AM

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square_ball

Brian Whelehan famously missed out on an all star but got POTY in 1994. If you are nominated for POTY you are a cert for inclusion in the team of the year. Only outlier to that is when Cluxton and Clarke were nominated for POTY but obviously only one could get in the team.

David McKeown

Quote from: square_ball on August 18, 2024, 10:30:51 PMBrian Whelehan famously missed out on an all star but got POTY in 1994. If you are nominated for POTY you are a cert for inclusion in the team of the year. Only outlier to that is when Cluxton and Clarke were nominated for POTY but obviously only one could get in the team.

Was that not the Texaco player of the year he won which in turn lead to the creation of the All Star player of the year in 1995?
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thebigfullforward

Quote from: Cavan19 on July 31, 2024, 09:18:01 AM
Quote from: square_ball on July 31, 2024, 08:24:14 AMEnda Smith didn't play in any 'big games' last year and got an all star. Hughes will get the All Star but imo Morgan has been the best goalkeeper in the country this season.

Are you rating Morgan on his goalkeeping or the impact he has on games or when roaming out the field?

On my count which could be wrong Morgan conceded 14 goals this year and Hughes conceded 5.

I don't think Morgan should be in the conversation.


Look at the defence Morgan has in front of him lol. If you could show me evidence on goals he conceded where he should be saving I'll accept it. But the amount of shots he stopped and attacks he contributed to shouldn't be overlooked. A lot of the time he looked like the only player with any interest in getting the ball up the field with boys walking beside him

tonto1888

Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 22, 2024, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on July 31, 2024, 09:18:01 AM
Quote from: square_ball on July 31, 2024, 08:24:14 AMEnda Smith didn't play in any 'big games' last year and got an all star. Hughes will get the All Star but imo Morgan has been the best goalkeeper in the country this season.

Are you rating Morgan on his goalkeeping or the impact he has on games or when roaming out the field?

On my count which could be wrong Morgan conceded 14 goals this year and Hughes conceded 5.

I don't think Morgan should be in the conversation.


Look at the defence Morgan has in front of him lol. If you could show me evidence on goals he conceded where he should be saving I'll accept it. But the amount of shots he stopped and attacks he contributed to shouldn't be overlooked. A lot of the time he looked like the only player with any interest in getting the ball up the field with boys walking beside him

hes a great keeper and had an excellent season. For as long as it lasted. Which IMO was not long enough to be considered for an all star.

thebigfullforward

Quote from: tonto1888 on August 23, 2024, 06:53:11 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 22, 2024, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on July 31, 2024, 09:18:01 AM
Quote from: square_ball on July 31, 2024, 08:24:14 AMEnda Smith didn't play in any 'big games' last year and got an all star. Hughes will get the All Star but imo Morgan has been the best goalkeeper in the country this season.

Are you rating Morgan on his goalkeeping or the impact he has on games or when roaming out the field?

On my count which could be wrong Morgan conceded 14 goals this year and Hughes conceded 5.

I don't think Morgan should be in the conversation.


Look at the defence Morgan has in front of him lol. If you could show me evidence on goals he conceded where he should be saving I'll accept it. But the amount of shots he stopped and attacks he contributed to shouldn't be overlooked. A lot of the time he looked like the only player with any interest in getting the ball up the field with boys walking beside him

hes a great keeper and had an excellent season. For as long as it lasted. Which IMO was not long enough to be considered for an all star.
Enda Smith got an All Star last year for getting to the same stage as Morgan did this year with more competition in his position. If Enda Smith could get one why should Morgan not be in the conversation?

thewobbler

Niall Morgan played for a D1 team that underperformed in both league and championship.

Blaine Hughes conceded 1 goal in 9 championship matches en route to lifting Sam Maguire.

Morgan has roughly the same chance of winning an All Star this year as John O'Leary.

Please put this conversation to bed.

tonto1888

Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 23, 2024, 08:24:28 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 23, 2024, 06:53:11 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 22, 2024, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on July 31, 2024, 09:18:01 AM
Quote from: square_ball on July 31, 2024, 08:24:14 AMEnda Smith didn't play in any 'big games' last year and got an all star. Hughes will get the All Star but imo Morgan has been the best goalkeeper in the country this season.

Are you rating Morgan on his goalkeeping or the impact he has on games or when roaming out the field?

On my count which could be wrong Morgan conceded 14 goals this year and Hughes conceded 5.

I don't think Morgan should be in the conversation.


Look at the defence Morgan has in front of him lol. If you could show me evidence on goals he conceded where he should be saving I'll accept it. But the amount of shots he stopped and attacks he contributed to shouldn't be overlooked. A lot of the time he looked like the only player with any interest in getting the ball up the field with boys walking beside him

hes a great keeper and had an excellent season. For as long as it lasted. Which IMO was not long enough to be considered for an all star.
Enda Smith got an All Star last year for getting to the same stage as Morgan did this year with more competition in his position. If Enda Smith could get one why should Morgan not be in the conversation?

fair enough. I thought the Rossies were quarter finals last year

Rossfan

Enda probably got it as the token Connacht rep.
Neither Galway nor Mayowestros had any stand out players last year.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Ethan Tremblay

Quote from: tonto1888 on August 23, 2024, 10:14:11 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 23, 2024, 08:24:28 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 23, 2024, 06:53:11 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on August 22, 2024, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on July 31, 2024, 09:18:01 AM
Quote from: square_ball on July 31, 2024, 08:24:14 AMEnda Smith didn't play in any 'big games' last year and got an all star. Hughes will get the All Star but imo Morgan has been the best goalkeeper in the country this season.

Are you rating Morgan on his goalkeeping or the impact he has on games or when roaming out the field?

On my count which could be wrong Morgan conceded 14 goals this year and Hughes conceded 5.

I don't think Morgan should be in the conversation.


Look at the defence Morgan has in front of him lol. If you could show me evidence on goals he conceded where he should be saving I'll accept it. But the amount of shots he stopped and attacks he contributed to shouldn't be overlooked. A lot of the time he looked like the only player with any interest in getting the ball up the field with boys walking beside him

hes a great keeper and had an excellent season. For as long as it lasted. Which IMO was not long enough to be considered for an all star.
Enda Smith got an All Star last year for getting to the same stage as Morgan did this year with more competition in his position. If Enda Smith could get one why should Morgan not be in the conversation?

fair enough. I thought the Rossies were quarter finals last year

Have to agree with Tonto on this one, he didn't play deep enough into the business end of the season.  At the stage of QF onwards, he would have been more exposed to potential mistakes by better teams.  That being said, his contribution to an underperforming Tyrone team can't go unnoticed. 

I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

square_ball

Thought Stefan Campbell done enough to get a nomination but season feels like that long ago I can think of anyone else who should have made the cut.


Goalkeepers

Blaine Hughes (Armagh), Shaun Patton (Donegal), Niall Morgan (Tyrone)

Defenders

Aaron McKay (Armagh), Barry McCambridge (Armagh), Aidan Forker (Armagh), Paddy Burns (Armagh), Peadar Mogan (Donegal), Ryan McHugh (Donegal), Caolan McGonigle (Donegal), Brendan McCole (Donegal), Johnny McGrath (Galway), Dylan McHugh (Galway), Liam Silke (Galway), Craig Lennon (Louth), Donal McKenny (Louth), Brian Ó Beaglaioch (Kerry), Tom O'Sullivan (Kerry), Seán Bugler (Dublin), Brian Stack (Roscommon), Daniel O'Mahony (Cork)

Midfielders

Niall Grimley (Armagh), Ben Crealey (Armagh), Michael Langan (Donegal), Brian Fenton (Dublin), Tommy Durnin (Louth), Paul Conroy (Galway)

Forwards

Rian O'Neill (Armagh), Conor Turbitt (Armagh), Oisín Conaty (Armagh), Rory Grugan (Armagh), Cillian McDaid (Galway), John Maher (Galway), Rob Finnerty (Galway), Shane Walsh (Galway), David Clifford (Kerry), Paudie Clifford (Kerry), Con O'Callaghan (Dublin), Cormac Costello (Dublin), Ryan O'Donoghue (Mayo), Aidan O'Shea (Mayo), Oisín Gallen (Donegal), Darragh Canavan (Tyrone), Sam Mulroy (Louth), Diarmuid Murtagh (Roscommon)

PwC GAA/GPA Footballer of the Year nominees

Barry McCambridge (Armagh), Paul Conroy (Galway), John Maher (Galway)

PwC GAA/GPA Young Footballer of the Year nominees

Oisín Conaty (Armagh), Johnny McGrath (Galway), Ciarán Moore (Donegal)

Armagh18

Well done to all the lads, Conaty a cert for young player of the year and player of the year hard to call

Can't believe Joe and Soupy missed out when you see a few of the names nominated in there.

Mario

Derry, the league champions, the only quarter finalists without a nomination.

Estimator

Quote from: Mario on September 19, 2024, 11:09:20 AMDerry, the league champions, the only quarter finalists without a nomination.

By my count there are 5 nominees from counties that didn't even make the QFs, plus 9 from beaten QFs.

From a Derry perspective I thought Baker might have been in with a shout. But I'd doubt if any of the 14 (total) from above will be close to getting an All-Star.

Surprised that Campbell wasn't nominated. Think Conaty is an easy winner of YPOTY, and two nominees from Galway might pave the way for McCambridge to pick up POTY.

Ulster League Champions 2009

Truthsayer

Quote from: Mario on September 19, 2024, 11:09:20 AMDerry, the league champions, the only quarter finalists without a nomination.
As was stated at the time, despite all the hypbole about Harte and Derry, come end of year no-one cares who won the league.

Mario

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Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 12:15:32 PM
Quote from: Mario on September 19, 2024, 11:09:20 AMDerry, the league champions, the only quarter finalists without a nomination.
As was stated at the time, despite all the hypbole about Harte and Derry, come end of year no-one cares who won the league.
A qf seemed to be enough for the other 3 defeated quarterfinalists to get nominations. It's not a big issue as I doubt anyone outside the semi will win an all star but I thought McGuigan would get a nomination. Although below the standards of the past few seasons he was better than a lot of forwards on that list. Top scorer in the league, decent games v Mayo and Galway and easily the best player on the pitch in the QF v Kerry.