Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[God14]

What's the protocol for Derry co Board, Derry players and RG himself when some reporter finally starts to ask the awkward questions?

How will Derry react to the enviable sledging tactics from various opposition? RGs antics of old on the sideline don't bode well

[Ethan Tremblay]

That appointment would spell disaster for all concerned, again sponsorship and other revenue generating avenues could set the county back years if they react negativly. 

Players will be boxed into corners by the media for their personal take, which is unfair on them also. 

Would he even bring anything new to the table if he was to come back? His return certainly wouldn't have the impact McGuniness has had with Donegal.

Ultimately, as mentioned above by Lough Neagh, if he does not win an All Ireland (going off previous management must be the expectation), which I personally don't see happening , then the country board have thrown ethical values in the bin for a chance of success. 

[marty34]

My take on it is quite basic.

IF he takes it, there will be heat on him initially but it will soon blow over I think. Maybe that's why it's being sorted at this time.

I mean look at the poor people in Gaza. Thousands of children are being murdered by the Zionists and it's way down the news reel.

[Red10]

Seems like a few tyronies, who couldn't wait for the downfall of Harte now can't wait for the outrage the RG return will get

What people from Tyrone or anywhere else think shouldn't come into it. If we think that a man like Gallagher represents us it says a lot about some people in Derry. It shouldn't come down to players wanting him or thinking he can do a good job. I for one will not be near another Derry match or put one penny into the coffers of Derry GAA if he's reappointed.

[RedHand88]

Seems like a few tyronies, who couldn't wait for the downfall of Harte now can't wait for the outrage the RG return will get

Awk wise up, it's nothing to do with Derry/Tyrone, would be the exact same if he was taking over Clare. If you can't see the huge problems Derry will be bringing on themselves by bringing him back you've got your head in the sand!

[p3427977]

What happens when Derry Camogie/Ladies football down tools? Is this likely to happen?

Who cares?

[Derry Optimist]

Let us all remember why RG resigned his position in the first place in May 2023. Let us also remember that the County Board, albeit reluctantly, accepted that resignation. Unfortunately,  he cannot be reappointed unless and until the original  circumstances and allegations are withdrawn or substantially changed. As those circumstances do not appear to have altered at this time, similarly the County Board  cannot now turn round and contradict their own acceptance of the May 2023 situation.
On the other hand  if the allegations were withdrawn or disproven beyond all reasonable doubt, then most reasonable people would accept his reappointment by the County Board as a good one.
For the sake of the integrity of Derry County Board, players, sponsors and all other stakeholders there is no room for ambiguity in all of this. Derry GAA deserve better.

[93-DY-SAM]

Let us all remember why RG resigned his position in the first place in May 2023. Let us also remember that the County Board, albeit reluctantly, accepted that resignation. Unfortunately,  he cannot be reappointed unless and until the original  circumstances and allegations are withdrawn or substantially changed. As those circumstances do not appear to have altered at this time, similarly the County Board  cannot now turn round and contradict their own acceptance of the May 2023 situation.
On the other hand  if the allegations were withdrawn or disproven beyond all reasonable doubt, then most reasonable people would accept his reappointment by the County Board as a good one.
For the sake of the integrity of Derry County Board, players, sponsors and all other stakeholders there is no room for ambiguity in all of this. Derry GAA deserve better.

And who sets the criteria for "disproven beyond all reasonable doubt"?

[Mario]

That appointment would spell disaster for all concerned, again sponsorship and other revenue generating avenues could set the county back years if they react negativly. 

Players will be boxed into corners by the media for their personal take, which is unfair on them also. 

Would he even bring anything new to the table if he was to come back? His return certainly wouldn't have the impact McGuniness has had with Donegal.

Ultimately, as mentioned above by Lough Neagh, if he does not win an All Ireland (going off previous management must be the expectation), which I personally don't see happening , then the country board have thrown ethical values in the bin for a chance of success. 

Gallagher improved Derry a lot more than McGuinness did Donegal. What McGuinness achieved this year had been achieved the previous 2 years by RG.Would he bring anything new? Probably. He did every year he was in charge. Would we have lost 4 championship games if he was in charge? Not a chance.

I don't think it's AI or nothing for Derry fans. We've won one in our history. We do want the team to be competitive though and be in with a chance.

[tbrick18]

That appointment would spell disaster for all concerned, again sponsorship and other revenue generating avenues could set the county back years if they react negativly. 

Players will be boxed into corners by the media for their personal take, which is unfair on them also. 

Would he even bring anything new to the table if he was to come back? His return certainly wouldn't have the impact McGuniness has had with Donegal.

Ultimately, as mentioned above by Lough Neagh, if he does not win an All Ireland (going off previous management must be the expectation), which I personally don't see happening , then the country board have thrown ethical values in the bin for a chance of success. 

Gallagher improved Derry a lot more than McGuinness did Donegal. What McGuinness achieved this year had been achieved the previous 2 years by RG.Would he bring anything new? Probably. He did every year he was in charge. Would we have lost 4 championship games if he was in charge? Not a chance.

I don't think it's AI or nothing for Derry fans. We've won one in our history. We do want the team to be competitive though and be in with a chance.

Agreed.
RG was able to get the best out of the players we have.
Harte/Devlin were not.
If we are getting the best we can from the players we have and are competitive, I don't believe there'll be outrage if we don't win an AI. No-one I spoke to in the last few years "expected" to win anything, not even Ulster. But we had a chance, and that was/is enough for the majority of us. Of course we want to win an AI, but there are no expectations, just hope.

I've said on here many times my opinion of the RG situation so I'm not going into it all again - but to summarise, anyone guilty of domestic abuse should be in prison. But guilt should be determined by the authorities and not the online jury.

I have a question though, and honestly don't know the answer - was there widespread criticism/protest/sponsor issues when RG became involved in a club team?

Some people had their mind made up about RG the second a complaint was made, and they'll never change their mind no matter what comes out in the wash.

[93-DY-SAM]

That appointment would spell disaster for all concerned, again sponsorship and other revenue generating avenues could set the county back years if they react negativly. 

Players will be boxed into corners by the media for their personal take, which is unfair on them also. 

Would he even bring anything new to the table if he was to come back? His return certainly wouldn't have the impact McGuniness has had with Donegal.

Ultimately, as mentioned above by Lough Neagh, if he does not win an All Ireland (going off previous management must be the expectation), which I personally don't see happening , then the country board have thrown ethical values in the bin for a chance of success. 

Gallagher improved Derry a lot more than McGuinness did Donegal. What McGuinness achieved this year had been achieved the previous 2 years by RG.Would he bring anything new? Probably. He did every year he was in charge. Would we have lost 4 championship games if he was in charge? Not a chance.

I don't think it's AI or nothing for Derry fans. We've won one in our history. We do want the team to be competitive though and be in with a chance.

Agreed.
RG was able to get the best out of the players we have.
Harte/Devlin were not.
If we are getting the best we can from the players we have and are competitive, I don't believe there'll be outrage if we don't win an AI. No-one I spoke to in the last few years "expected" to win anything, not even Ulster. But we had a chance, and that was/is enough for the majority of us. Of course we want to win an AI, but there are no expectations, just hope.

I've said on here many times my opinion of the RG situation so I'm not going into it all again - but to summarise, anyone guilty of domestic abuse should be in prison. But guilt should be determined by the authorities and not the online jury.

I have a question though, and honestly don't know the answer - was there widespread criticism/protest/sponsor issues when RG became involved in a club team?

Some people had their mind made up about RG the second a complaint was made, and they'll never change their mind no matter what comes out in the wash.

There was a lot of shite doing the rounds, especially by a few mouthpieces on Twitter about how Derry 'wans' were expecting to win an All Ireland's this year. Not one person in Derry I spoke to all year expected Derry to win anything. They had hopes like every other county that we'd be in the mix but that was it. It was disappointing that we took a massive step back this year but to say Derry people expected to win an All-Ireland was just bollox. Same with whatever new manager comes in. There is no expectation - simply a desire like everyone else.

[Derry Man]

Players obviously want him back & have done since last year, difficult subject alright but where do you draw the line? RG obviously has had some heinous accusations thrown his way but unfortunately the GAA is littered with proven scumbags, didn't hear the same outrage when Gleeson took over Antrim, Hayes & Gillane on the Limerick team, Rian O'Neill, our own centre forward etc. Also Tyrone ones have some cheek considering what a lot of their former players & managers have done (don't remember Tyrone ladies going on strike around 2013)

[LoughNeagh]

Players obviously want him back & have done since last year, difficult subject alright but where do you draw the line? RG obviously has had some heinous accusations thrown his way but unfortunately the GAA is littered with proven scumbags, didn't hear the same outrage when Gleeson took over Antrim, Hayes & Gillane on the Limerick team, Rian O'Neill, our own centre forward etc. Also Tyrone ones have some cheek considering what a lot of their former players & managers have done (don't remember Tyrone ladies going on strike around 2013)

Let's set a standard.

Derry's reputation isn't great at the moment with this, McFaul and a former player and his wife throwing fists.

[NotedObserver]

Rory G history was well known to many in his time with Donegal and Fermanagh. Bad look returning to him and time for Derry man to take the helm.

[statto]

Do we know how RG has been received in Corduff? I know they are mad for football in Monaghan but be interesting what the general concensus was there.  Was there some apathy originally, but became old news after?