The far right

[theskull1]

Pretty sure I saw this direct quoted by Bryson in one of his endless tirade of tweets over the weekend.

When you very decent people's view align with the EB UVF, the UDA, the West Brits from Dublin and Tommy Robinson it might be time to look at your definitions.

When hardliner scumbags use the same words i.e "decent people", that is not proof that the 'decent people' I'm referring to are aligned with hardliners. I'd be fairly certain the vast vast majority want nothing to do with them, but they still have fears that what is happening is not healthy for their communities. But as usual, the trump card accusations make people very uncomfortable having adult conversations about their concerns. No one in authority wants to listen.

 

[Father Murphy]

This 'fear' that white menfolk have of black people raping their womenfolk is the exact same phenomenon that existed in the Deep South USA and often resulted in lynchings.

Absolute rednecks, then and now.

It's called being 'on tilt' these days apparently.

[Rossfan]

How come there were no riots in Scotland or Wales?

Why do the ge media refer to the rioters as 'protestors"?

2 awful rape cases in the Courts recently,  1 by a Mullingar man the other by a taxi driver.
Mullingar men and male taxi drivers need to be vetted before they move in near you.
Imagine if 100 of them lived in your town?

[Milltown Row2]

Pretty sure I saw this direct quoted by Bryson in one of his endless tirade of tweets over the weekend.

When you very decent people's view align with the EB UVF, the UDA, the West Brits from Dublin and Tommy Robinson it might be time to look at your definitions.

When hardliner scumbags use the same words i.e "decent people", that is not proof that the 'decent people' I'm referring to are aligned with hardliners. I'd be fairly certain the vast vast majority want nothing to do with them, but they still have fears that what is happening is not healthy for their communities. But as usual, the trump card accusations make people very uncomfortable having adult conversations about their concerns. No one in authority wants to listen.

 

If the vast vast majority of people want nothing to do with these hardliners then why are there 100's of people arrested so far and more to follow after reviewing footage of these disturbances at towns and cities

Write up petitions, gather at stormont and hand in these petitions with air the concerns to the media like grown ups

But no close off major roads, attack places of worship, its like we forgot what it was like for the ones attending mass at Harryville, but now hand in hand with the same blokes!..

[NAG1]

Pretty sure I saw this direct quoted by Bryson in one of his endless tirade of tweets over the weekend.

When you very decent people's view align with the EB UVF, the UDA, the West Brits from Dublin and Tommy Robinson it might be time to look at your definitions.

When hardliner scumbags use the same words i.e "decent people", that is not proof that the 'decent people' I'm referring to are aligned with hardliners. I'd be fairly certain the vast vast majority want nothing to do with them, but they still have fears that what is happening is not healthy for their communities. But as usual, the trump card accusations make people very uncomfortable having adult conversations about their concerns. No one in authority wants to listen.

 

If the vast vast majority of people want nothing to do with these hardliners then why are there 100's of people arrested so far and more to follow after reviewing footage of these disturbances at towns and cities

Write up petitions, gather at stormont and hand in these petitions with air the concerns to the media like grown ups

But no close off major roads, attack places of worship, its like we forgot what it was like for the ones attending mass at Harryville, but now hand in hand with the same blokes!..

Even better, elect people who are capable and hold them to account for the shit show that is the health service and public service in general.

Hold them to account for policy that creates these situations.

[theskull1]

As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.

What are you talking about. Every male is a potential rapist. Research suggests that men who rape often lack empathy and may not care about social acceptance.

We already know that locals already in the community can perpetuate these crimes as well but I would see my daughter being at 'much higher' risk if 100 males were parachuted into temporary accommodation overnight close to where I live. I can empathize with people having elevated fears.

Hard to believe you are a parent with young daughters. You serious that it wouldn't make you in any way more fearful about their safety? I think you're lying

[tbrick18]

There are layers to this and people are getting hijacked and unfortunately for them their views will be lost in the madness that is happening in towns and cities in both Ireland and the UK at the minute.

There are policies in place for migration, immigration and illegal immigration?

So it is on the authorities to carry out their jobs, be it the politicians, civil service and those that process people when they enter the country, there is a poster on here that has a lot better knowledge on how that works than me, and its not an easy task.

Is the process slow? yeah probably, is it being carried out? yeah it is. can it be done quicker? yep, but I'm sure there is a reason as to why it hasn't or is.

Which country in the world, just sends people back to the country they came from illegally or without documentation?

Why are places of worship being attacked? Shops, businesses of people from other countries being burnt, their houses attacked and cars being set on fire?

You'd get a quicker response to sorting things out if you started attacking politicians, but its easier for thugs to put someone's windows in and put of slogans on their walls

As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.

These marches were not called for peaceful protest, I hope that anyone arrested will be given harsh sentences with lasting consequences. 

+1
There is this impression the far right like to tout that all immigrants are illegal, rapist, criminals etc as it suits the racist narrative.
I'm sure that there is a criminal element within the immigrant community, but there's a criminal element in every community in this country.
Of those 100 men being referred to, they are more likely to be men who have had to leave their home country to avoid death and persecution than they are to be men who have decided to lets go to Ireland and rape some girls. It's ridiculous.

Where has compassion went? The Irish, in my view, were always a people who based on our own experiences here, were understanding of the plight of others and would do what they could to help. I think the vast majority of us are still like that, but there's a sizeable minority who have become inward looking and downright hateful towards foreign nationals.
I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view.  It's shameful.

[theskull1]

I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view.  It's shameful.

Were you ashamed 30 years ago when they seen the news and thought we were all terrorists?

The media spin narratives and just like the troubles, there no effort here by the media to hear in good faith the fears that a lot of people have.

[Father Murphy]

I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view.  It's shameful.

Were you ashamed 30 years ago when they seen the news and thought we were all terrorists?

The media spin narratives and just like the troubles, there no effort here by the media to hear in good faith the fears that a lot of people have.

This is where your irrational fear leads.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till

[Last Man]

"Rioting is the language of the unherd". No political leadership is the root of this. The "Govt" are pulling all the strings but our useful idiot polititions are just bystanders. They have forgotten that they work for us. Supposed to be a Democracy, remember! This trend of "othering" and the loss of objectivity is the road to hell.

[tbrick18]

I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view.  It's shameful.

Were you ashamed 30 years ago when they seen the news and thought we were all terrorists?

The media spin narratives and just like the troubles, there no effort here by the media to hear in good faith the fears that a lot of people have.

Your perception that 30 years ago that all of the English viewed all of the Irish as terrorists is wrong in my opinion.
Just like not all English see the Irish aligning the far right movement now.
Just like 30 years ago, those of us who live here lived the real thing and knew the real story. Just like we do today. Today we can actually see Irish people committing these types of crimes against legally operated businesses and legal immigrants as well as against illegal immigrant.

Rioting, destruction of property and anti-immigrant protests are not a media spin - they are happening.
Any legitimate concerns are lost behind that.

[Itchy]

Reported Itchy

Good man. Report away. Go and tell your mammy too when your at it.

[Itchy]

As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.

What are you talking about. Every male is a potential rapist. Research suggests that men who rape often lack empathy and may not care about social acceptance.

We already know that locals already in the community can perpetuate these crimes as well but I would see my daughter being at 'much higher' risk if 100 males were parachuted into temporary accommodation overnight close to where I live. I can empathize with people having elevated fears.

Hard to believe you are a parent with young daughters. You serious that it wouldn't make you in any way more fearful about their safety? I think you're lying

That it there, we've finally got you to say it. Hiding behind "decent" citizen but the mask always slips

[tonto1888]

There are layers to this and people are getting hijacked and unfortunately for them their views will be lost in the madness that is happening in towns and cities in both Ireland and the UK at the minute.

There are policies in place for migration, immigration and illegal immigration?

So it is on the authorities to carry out their jobs, be it the politicians, civil service and those that process people when they enter the country, there is a poster on here that has a lot better knowledge on how that works than me, and its not an easy task.

Is the process slow? yeah probably, is it being carried out? yeah it is. can it be done quicker? yep, but I'm sure there is a reason as to why it hasn't or is.

Which country in the world, just sends people back to the country they came from illegally or without documentation?

Why are places of worship being attacked? Shops, businesses of people from other countries being burnt, their houses attacked and cars being set on fire?

You'd get a quicker response to sorting things out if you started attacking politicians, but its easier for thugs to put someone's windows in and put of slogans on their walls

As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.

These marches were not called for peaceful protest, I hope that anyone arrested will be given harsh sentences with lasting consequences. 

+1
There is this impression the far right like to tout that all immigrants are illegal, rapist, criminals etc as it suits the racist narrative.
I'm sure that there is a criminal element within the immigrant community, but there's a criminal element in every community in this country.
Of those 100 men being referred to, they are more likely to be men who have had to leave their home country to avoid death and persecution than they are to be men who have decided to lets go to Ireland and rape some girls. It's ridiculous.

Where has compassion went? The Irish, in my view, were always a people who based on our own experiences here, were understanding of the plight of others and would do what they could to help. I think the vast majority of us are still like that, but there's a sizeable minority who have become inward looking and downright hateful towards foreign nationals.
I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view.  It's shameful.

Absolutely spot on

[whitey]

There are layers to this and people are getting hijacked and unfortunately for them their views will be lost in the madness that is happening in towns and cities in both Ireland and the UK at the minute.

There are policies in place for migration, immigration and illegal immigration?

So it is on the authorities to carry out their jobs, be it the politicians, civil service and those that process people when they enter the country, there is a poster on here that has a lot better knowledge on how that works than me, and its not an easy task.

Is the process slow? yeah probably, is it being carried out? yeah it is. can it be done quicker? yep, but I'm sure there is a reason as to why it hasn't or is.

Which country in the world, just sends people back to the country they came from illegally or without documentation?

Why are places of worship being attacked? Shops, businesses of people from other countries being burnt, their houses attacked and cars being set on fire?

You'd get a quicker response to sorting things out if you started attacking politicians, but its easier for thugs to put someone's windows in and put of slogans on their walls

As for 100 young males in a town and women being hassled or afraid to walk down the street that is down to local police authorities not making the streets safe, if its found that someone is breaking the law then they like anyone should be dealt with accordingly, but collectively calling the 100 young males potential rapists is just nuts.

These marches were not called for peaceful protest, I hope that anyone arrested will be given harsh sentences with lasting consequences. 

+1
There is this impression the far right like to tout that all immigrants are illegal, rapist, criminals etc as it suits the racist narrative.
I'm sure that there is a criminal element within the immigrant community, but there's a criminal element in every community in this country.
Of those 100 men being referred to, they are more likely to be men who have had to leave their home country to avoid death and persecution than they are to be men who have decided to lets go to Ireland and rape some girls. It's ridiculous.

Where has compassion went? The Irish, in my view, were always a people who based on our own experiences here, were understanding of the plight of others and would do what they could to help. I think the vast majority of us are still like that, but there's a sizeable minority who have become inward looking and downright hateful towards foreign nationals.
I have English work colleagues who have seen the news reports over there and have the impression that Ireland has become aligned to right wing EDL type view.  It's shameful.

Absolutely spot on

Spot on me Swiss roll

I've never read such a pile of virtue signaling manure in my entire life

Oh....look at me....I'm so open minded and liberal

Makes me want to throw up

Enforce the laws that are in place and maybe people won't be so upset