All Ireland Final Armagh v Galway 28 July 2024

[imtommygunn]

If Campbell starts armagh make the same mistake Dublin did by starting McCaffrey. These two are probably the best example of subs impacting a game you could find and I honestly think starting them a mistake and Dublin would be in the final if they'd not started McCaffrey and had him as an impact sub...

[general_lee]

Listening to the RTE pod and Fitzmaurice/Canavan discussed the merits of Soupy Campbell starting the game.  They said that Armagh still have a number of "impact" players such as Duffy, McQuillan, Nugent, Oisin O'Neill etc and that may be worth going with him from the off. Interesting take, which would probably result in McElroy dropping to wing back and McGrane missing out. I personally think that makes Armagh stronger and would be more comfortable with McElroy in a physical battle than McGrane(who has had a good breakthrough year)against the Galway wing forwards. 

If Campbell starts Galway defence is likely more capable to deal with him and I would argue Campbell may even be worn out earlier. In addition to this, Galway will be tight and there won't be much space for Campbell to run into. At least in the second half the Galway players will be a little more worn down and more space available so he is effective.

It's a conundrum. Soupy could easily start and if Armagh want to hit the ground running it would be a no-brainer. If they want to finish with their strongest team, then introducing him at or shortly after halftime would probably be the better bet.

[imtommygunn]

I think Armagh's biggest asset is how strongly they finish and if they change that it's a mistake...

[illdecide]

I would argue that Stefan would be the best equipped to break a tackle and go past his man therefore opening it up, it's  a myth that he can't last games or not fit enough. He played the second half and all of extra time against Kerry, i'm not doubting that he is a great man to bring on from the bench but maybe he can do it from the start too. He's experienced enough to know himself what to do on the pitch at the right times so I don't think there'll be too many eyebrows raised should be start

[Blowitupref]

Can't decide who is going to win this, struggling with the match ups and tactically who's got the upper hand..

Could be very low scoring or high scoring, the average of 1-16 would be what I'd be hoping for as that would be an entertaining enough game for the neutral..

Would Armagh ones be happy with a score line of 1-16? Would that be enough?

Mayo, Dublin or Donegal did not score 1-16 against Galway. It would probably be enough.
If Armagh score a goal and Galway do not, then they might get over the line.

0-16 v Dublin has been the biggest score Galway have conceded in this years championship. Team with the best defence nearly always wins the All Ireland and not a lot between Galway and Armagh on what they have conceded per game average.

[armaghniac]

I would argue that Stefan would be the best equipped to break a tackle and go past his man therefore opening it up, it's  a myth that he can't last games or not fit enough. He played the second half and all of extra time against Kerry, i'm not doubting that he is a great man to bring on from the bench but maybe he can do it from the start too. He's experienced enough to know himself what to do on the pitch at the right times so I don't think there'll be too many eyebrows raised should be start

Boylesports have a bet on a number of points or more scored by Armagh subs. Not hard to see two or three points from subs. You could nearly guarantee that Stefan would score two and Oisin O'Neill one.

[balladmaker]

Armagh probably have their best team on the field when we introduce Campbell, O'Neill, Duffy, McQuillan and Burns, however that's the best team with 20 mins to go, not from the start imo.  Game finishers are important and have been crucial for Armagh this year.  I'd be reluctant to start Stefan Campbell, as from what we've seen of him so far, he seems to run out of steam later in the game.  20 mins to go, he can win the game for Armagh at a time it begins to open up.  I think he'd be running into dead ends if on from the start.  Whilst Stefan is great to break lines and drive forward, a well marshalled and fresh Galway defence won't be giving much away early on.  Then again, he is not the only option coming off the bench, so a big decision for KMcG to make ahead of Sunday.

[seafoid]

Galway have conceded 1 goal but it was scored by Amagh while they have conceded 3.

[ClubScene13]

I would argue that Stefan would be the best equipped to break a tackle and go past his man therefore opening it up, it's  a myth that he can't last games or not fit enough. He played the second half and all of extra time against Kerry, i'm not doubting that he is a great man to bring on from the bench but maybe he can do it from the start too. He's experienced enough to know himself what to do on the pitch at the right times so I don't think there'll be too many eyebrows raised should be start

Boylesports have a bet on a number of points or more scored by Armagh subs. Not hard to see two or three points from subs. You could nearly guarantee that Stefan would score two and Oisin O'Neill one.

Paddy Power had the same for Tyrone in 2021 I know a lot of people were on it to a heavy enough tune.
Over 1.5 pts by Tyrone sub bench at Even money
Was the same year McShane and Darragh Canavan were kicking a right bit off the bench, they got 1-1 between them and it was enough to get paid out

[Captain Obvious]

Strength of any team nowadays is probably how strong they are on the bench and Armagh are as strong as ever in that regard with Stefan Campbell, Oisin O'Neill, Ross McQuillan,Jason Duffy, Jarly Óg Burns etc to call on.


Galway have been the best team Armagh have faced this year and they aren't too shabby on bench options either. Wouldn't be any surprise if extra time will be required to separate the two on Sunday.

[Armagh18]

Extra time and replay anyone?

Extra time and Armagh win on penlties in the replay would be the ultimate redemption.

Wouldn't be much good everyone in Armagh will have had heart failure

[Blowitupref]

One change for Armagh with Connaire Mackin coming in for Peter McGrane.

Armagh: Blaine Hughes; Paddy Burns, Aaron McKay, Barry McCambridge; Connaire Mackin, Tiernan Kelly, Aidan Forker; Niall Grimley, Ben Crealey; Joe McElroy, Rian O'Neill, OisínConaty; Rory Gurgan, Andrew Murnin, Conor Turbitt

Subs: Ethan Rafferty, Greg McCabe, Peter McGrane, Ciaran Higgins, Ross McQuillan, Shane McPartlan, Jason Duffy, Oisín O'Neill, Stefan Campbell, Aidan Nugent, Jarly Og Burns

[armaghniac]

One change for Armagh with Connaire Mackin coming in for Peter McGrane.

Armagh: Blaine Hughes; Paddy Burns, Aaron McKay, Barry McCambridge; Connaire Mackin, Tiernan Kelly, Aidan Forker; Niall Grimley, Ben Crealey; Joe McElroy, Rian O'Neill, OisínConaty; Rory Gurgan, Andrew Murnin, Conor Turbitt

Subs: Ethan Rafferty, Greg McCabe, Peter McGrane, Ciaran Higgins, Ross McQuillan, Shane McPartlan, Jason Duffy, Oisín O'Neill, Stefan Campbell, Aidan Nugent, Jarly Og Burns

Add a bit of height.

[David McKeown]

Not surprised to see Mackin in. Armagh were very keen to overturn the suspension that kept him out of the last meeting.

Starting to get real now.

[bennydorano]

Delighted to see that team named. I was dreading a few changes in a scenario where we're trying to outfox an opposition manager, that has failed miserably in the past. Its a no-brainer for me to finish with a stronger team than starting with it, there is always the danger it goes wrong and the game gets away from us, but we're playing the percentages and it makes perfect sense imo.