The far right

[Milltown Row2]

The right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?

Then does everyone from everywhere have the right to move to America to better themselves? Is that what you believe?

I understand that you think people have a right to better their lives? But does that apply to all 6 billion people living on the planet?

People should have the right to better themselves, if that's in another country then that's ok, if there are rules and stipulations to achieve that then that should also be adhered to, the governments and rules of that country are set down by the government that is in charge, they are voted in by the people of that country.

If people have a problem with that you've options.

This isn't a new phenomenon, migration of sorts has been happening for a millennia, countries need to work out how to embrace it (as it's not going away) and work it for their advantage

[Tony Baloney]

The right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?

That's fair enough but at what cost? I have no issue with people coming here as long as they contribute. Armagh is full of Romanians and Bulgarians and I'd say they're not moving the needle for the taxman. Poles and Lithuanians came and all the ones I know grafted like f**k.

You'd say. So you don't know do you. Plenty of locals are not moving the needle for the taxman. Do you have an issue with them?

As lazy as your response about the locals. I'd have bet the house on that one! Take the night off and see if you have anything better tomorrow.

[Rossfan]

We're all descended from immigrants in this Country.
Our ancestors just arrived at different times since the ice retreated.

[whitey]

Absolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab

Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically

[Milltown Row2]

Absolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab

Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically

Whether they are fleeing persecution or want to better themselves it's ok.

The government needs to address how they go about that, persecuting them when they arrive isn't a good solution. You're an animal if you think it's ok.

If the government are not going about it based on the current laws that needs addressing, but beating people up is wrong.

Beat up the politicians might work quicker (I'm joking   )

[whitey]

Absolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab

Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically

Whether they are fleeing persecution or want to better themselves it's ok.

The government needs to address how they go about that, persecuting them when they arrive isn't a good solution. You're an animal if you think it's ok.

If the government are not going about it based on the current laws that needs addressing, but beating people up is wrong.

Beat up the politicians might work quicker (I'm joking   )

Mits actuall

Absolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab

Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically

Whether they are fleeing persecution or want to better themselves it's ok.

The government needs to address how they go about that, persecuting them when they arrive isn't a good solution. You're an animal if you think it's ok.

If the government are not going about it based on the current laws that needs addressing, but beating people up is wrong.

Beat up the politicians might work quicker (I'm joking   )

Who's advocating beating anyone up

So you're in favor of open borders-fair enough

Thanks

[Milltown Row2]

Absolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab

Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically

Whether they are fleeing persecution or want to better themselves it's ok.

The government needs to address how they go about that, persecuting them when they arrive isn't a good solution. You're an animal if you think it's ok.

If the government are not going about it based on the current laws that needs addressing, but beating people up is wrong.

Beat up the politicians might work quicker (I'm joking   )

Mits actuall

Absolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab

Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically

Whether they are fleeing persecution or want to better themselves it's ok.

The government needs to address how they go about that, persecuting them when they arrive isn't a good solution. You're an animal if you think it's ok.

If the government are not going about it based on the current laws that needs addressing, but beating people up is wrong.

Beat up the politicians might work quicker (I'm joking   )

Who's advocating beating anyone up

So you're in favor of open borders-fair enough

Thanks

You are holding on to that quote like it means something.

[Father Murphy]

Absolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab

Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically

Except according to you illegal Irish migrants in the US are entitled to do exactly that as long as they don't break the law. They sponge by not paying taxes.

[burdizzo]

The right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?

By the same token, if people in a country feel their lives are better off without a certain kind of immigrant, should they not have the right to say so?

By certain kind of immigrant you mean black don't you

I'm sure the beloved Palestinians weren't too fond of Jewish immigration into The Holy Land.

[tonto1888]

The right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?

That's fair enough but at what cost? I have no issue with people coming here as long as they contribute. Armagh is full of Romanians and Bulgarians and I'd say they're not moving the needle for the taxman. Poles and Lithuanians came and all the ones I know grafted like f**k.

You'd say. So you don't know do you. Plenty of locals are not moving the needle for the taxman. Do you have an issue with them?

As lazy as your response about the locals. I'd have bet the house on that one! Take the night off and see if you have anything better tomorrow.

And I'd have bet the house on this response - nothing to back up your claim. Take your own advice.

[tonto1888]

Absolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab

Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically

You brought in abuse of the asylum system and I gave you one of the main reasons why people abuse it. That's why the conversation moved on.
Yeah. Only while people have the e right to move to countries 1000s of miles away

[Kidder81]

The right to better their lives. It's not that difficult to understand. Or should only a certain type of people have that right?

That's fair enough but at what cost? I have no issue with people coming here as long as they contribute. Armagh is full of Romanians and Bulgarians and I'd say they're not moving the needle for the taxman. Poles and Lithuanians came and all the ones I know grafted like f**k.

You'd say. So you don't know do you. Plenty of locals are not moving the needle for the taxman. Do you have an issue with them?

As lazy as your response about the locals. I'd have bet the house on that one! Take the night off and see if you have anything better tomorrow.

And I'd have bet the house on this response - nothing to back up your claim. Take your own advice.

You know it's true, we all know it's true but for some reason you are taking a different approach on an anonymous discussion board. It's bizarre.

The only Romanians or Slovaks that work legit are those that needed to show a work history to qualify for Universal Credit, once they qualified, almost to a man, they quit working & become "sick". It is orchestrated by gangs in some instances, but not all. In any event they add nothing to the communities here.

[whitey]

Absolutely people have a right to better themselves, but that doesn't give them the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and expect the local taxpayer to pick up the tab

Interesting how this conversation has evolved from talking about people fleeing persecution to people having a right to better themselves economically

You brought in abuse of the asylum system and I gave you one of the main reasons why people abuse it. That's why the conversation moved on.
Yeah. Only while people have the e right to move to countries 1000s of miles away

So now you're admitting that many (maybe even a majority) of these asylum/international protection claims are fraudulent. Fair enough

[Itchy]

I'm intrigued to get Kidders data supported (not at all generalised) run down on all nationalities. So far we have...

Lithuania and Poland = work like f**k

Slovakia and Romania =  quit working & become "sick". Mostly orchestrated by gangs.

Can you give us your insights on other nationalities please, maybe we could get the government's to base their law on your opinions?

Let's start with the English.

[Armagh18]

I'm intrigued to get Kidders data supported (not at all generalised) run down on all nationalities. So far we have...

Lithuania and Poland = work like f**k

Slovakia and Romania =  quit working & become "sick". Mostly orchestrated by gangs.

Can you give us your insights on other nationalities please, maybe we could get the government's to base their law on your opinions?

Let's start with the English.

Speaking from personal experience he's spot on.

Pricks.