The far right

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whitey

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 01:18:27 PMIt's not really that complicated

For a start

Deport everyone who has been served with a deportation order

"Crack down" in people arriving without documentation....it can and has been done

Expand the number of countries "deemed safe".....which can and has been done

Pay the same level of welfare to migrants/IPAs  that other EU countries pay

All completely legal and lawful and could begin tomorrow

If someone arrives, documented or not, and claims asylum that claim has to be dealt with. So what if they expand the number of safe countries?

Well they've done it and the number of people claiming asylum for those newly designated countries has plummeted (ie many of them were scam artists to begin with)


https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0701/1457490-safe-countries-ireland/


tonto1888

Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:32:41 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 01:18:27 PMIt's not really that complicated

For a start

Deport everyone who has been served with a deportation order

"Crack down" in people arriving without documentation....it can and has been done

Expand the number of countries "deemed safe".....which can and has been done

Pay the same level of welfare to migrants/IPAs  that other EU countries pay

All completely legal and lawful and could begin tomorrow

If someone arrives, documented or not, and claims asylum that claim has to be dealt with. So what if they expand the number of safe countries?

Well they've done it and the number of people claiming asylum for those newly designated countries has plummeted (ie many of them were scam artists to begin with)


https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0701/1457490-safe-countries-ireland/



People abuse the asylum system. What's your point?
Nobody leaves their home country and traipses half way round the world for the craic. Thought you might understand that at least

whitey

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 03:34:45 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:32:41 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 01:18:27 PMIt's not really that complicated

For a start

Deport everyone who has been served with a deportation order

"Crack down" in people arriving without documentation....it can and has been done

Expand the number of countries "deemed safe".....which can and has been done

Pay the same level of welfare to migrants/IPAs  that other EU countries pay

All completely legal and lawful and could begin tomorrow

If someone arrives, documented or not, and claims asylum that claim has to be dealt with. So what if they expand the number of safe countries?

Well they've done it and the number of people claiming asylum for those newly designated countries has plummeted (ie many of them were scam artists to begin with)


https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0701/1457490-safe-countries-ireland/



People abuse the asylum system. What's your point?
Nobody leaves their home country and traipses half way round the world for the craic. Thought you might understand that at least

So why have applications dropped by 50 % then from newly designated safe countries?

whitey

So if you're arguing with me about the proposal I advocated for (which are 100% lawful and supported by every main stream political party) you are in favor of open borders

End of

Kidder81

Why do so many try and game the system by converting to Christianity while awaiting a decision ?

Rossfan

Quote from: Kidder81 on July 20, 2024, 03:48:15 PMWhy do so many try and game the system by converting to Christianity while awaiting a decision ?

This is the funniest yet 🤣
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

Itchy

Quote from: Rossfan on July 20, 2024, 04:01:54 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on July 20, 2024, 03:48:15 PMWhy do so many try and game the system by converting to Christianity while awaiting a decision ?

This is the funniest yet 🤣

Gobshites will believe anything so long as it reinforces their already racist views, which no doubt they got from their mammy and daddy.

Kidder81

Quote from: Itchy on July 20, 2024, 04:04:11 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 20, 2024, 04:01:54 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on July 20, 2024, 03:48:15 PMWhy do so many try and game the system by converting to Christianity while awaiting a decision ?

This is the funniest yet 🤣

Gobshites will believe anything so long as it reinforces their already racist views, which no doubt they got from their mammy and daddy.

No answer ?

Right Rev Pete Wilcox who was Dean of Liverpool Cathedral

He said that there were many motivations but acknowledged that Muslims who already had British citizenship were not converting. "I can't think of a single example of somebody who already had British citizenship converting here with us from Islam to Christianity,"

tonto1888

Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:46:45 PMSo if you're arguing with me about the proposal I advocated for (which are 100% lawful and supported by every main stream political party) you are in favor of open borders

End of

There's no such thing as open borders. Or anytime you come back from the states do you walk through Dublin airport with nobody checking your passport?

tonto1888

Quote from: Kidder81 on July 20, 2024, 03:48:15 PMWhy do so many try and game the system by converting to Christianity while awaiting a decision ?

How many do this?

tonto1888

Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 03:34:45 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:32:41 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 01:18:27 PMIt's not really that complicated

For a start

Deport everyone who has been served with a deportation order

"Crack down" in people arriving without documentation....it can and has been done

Expand the number of countries "deemed safe".....which can and has been done

Pay the same level of welfare to migrants/IPAs  that other EU countries pay

All completely legal and lawful and could begin tomorrow

If someone arrives, documented or not, and claims asylum that claim has to be dealt with. So what if they expand the number of safe countries?

Well they've done it and the number of people claiming asylum for those newly designated countries has plummeted (ie many of them were scam artists to begin with)


https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0701/1457490-safe-countries-ireland/



People abuse the asylum system. What's your point?
Nobody leaves their home country and traipses half way round the world for the craic. Thought you might understand that at least

So why have applications dropped by 50 % then from newly designated safe countries?

As I said, people abuse the asylum system. There's your answer. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed the chance to better their lives does it?or does that privilege only apply to people like you?

whitey

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 04:33:30 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:46:45 PMSo if you're arguing with me about the proposal I advocated for (which are 100% lawful and supported by every main stream political party) you are in favor of open borders

End of

There's no such thing as open borders. Or anytime you come back from the states do you walk through Dublin airport with nobody checking your passport?

I never said there WAS open borders

I said that if you disagreed with my simple (and legal) 4 point plan you were an advocate of open borders


tonto1888

Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 04:42:09 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 20, 2024, 04:33:30 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 20, 2024, 03:46:45 PMSo if you're arguing with me about the proposal I advocated for (which are 100% lawful and supported by every main stream political party) you are in favor of open borders

End of

There's no such thing as open borders. Or anytime you come back from the states do you walk through Dublin airport with nobody checking your passport?

I never said there WAS open borders

I said that if you disagreed with my simple (and legal) 4 point plan you were an advocate of open borders



And how can I advocate for something which doesn't, never has and never will exist?
No answer to my other questions I see?

whitey

#643
LOL-but it does exist if you don't enforce your own immigration laws

Go through the four suggestions I made and let me know which ones you agree with and which ones you disagree with (and why)

I didn't understand your question because it made zero sense.....thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of people were let in through Dublin airport without passports in the past year. So obviously people without passports were/are getting in (and it necessitated a government CRACKDOWN)


https://extra.ie/2024/06/20/news/irish-news/crackdown-lost-passports

Milltown Row2

I can't see in that report hat tens of thousands came through Dublin airport without passports.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.