Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork

[Wildweasel74]

I take Cork to top that Group

[J70]

Looking at the highlights, Donegal gave up 3-1 through terrible ball handling. Mogan (twice), McHugh and Eoghan Ban all guilty of shockingly cheap turnovers for that level. Second goal was poor defending elsewhere also. Pewter shot from the 14 yard line. Shouldn't be hitting the net that easy from there. Maybe Patton unsighted by the defender in front.

[twohands!!!]

Looking at the highlights, Donegal gave up 3-1 through terrible ball handling. Mogan (twice), McHugh and Eoghan Ban all guilty of shockingly cheap turnovers for that level. Second goal was poor defending elsewhere also. Pewter shot from the 14 yard line. Shouldn't be hitting the net that easy from there. Maybe Patton unsighted by the defender in front.

Yeah it was very atypical Donegal defensive performance - Cork had a number of other goal chances as well besides the goals. I wouldn't count Donegal out just yet, especially if they win the group.

A lot of pundits seem to be proclaiming it a great performance by Cork but I would say more it was a great result for them but I don't think it was all that great a performance overall listening to the game it felt very much like a game where they basically fell over the finishing line. The fact is Donegal very nearly got back to get a draw or even a win in a game where they conceded three goals and scored none would have me wary as a Cork supporter. It will be a long time before Cork get three such soft goals in a match again.
Would be very Cork like to go out and get beaten fairly comfortably by Tyrone in the final round.

[Rossfan]

Cork 4pts 4+
Donegal 2pts +5
Tyrone 2pts +7

Going to be an exciting finish to the group in 2 weeks. If Tyrone can beat Cork and stay within 2 points of Donegal's score (assuming they beat Clare) then we'll top the group.

Cork just have to Draw and they top the group

Donegal need a win and beat Tyrone's score by 1 and they'll take it on the top spot (assuming tyrone beat cork)

If the 3 finish level the score differences will be from the games between the 3.
Clare games won't count.

[Estimator]

Cork 4pts 4+
Donegal 2pts +5
Tyrone 2pts +7

Going to be an exciting finish to the group in 2 weeks. If Tyrone can beat Cork and stay within 2 points of Donegal's score (assuming they beat Clare) then we'll top the group.

Cork just have to Draw and they top the group

Donegal need a win and beat Tyrone's score by 1 and they'll take it on the top spot (assuming tyrone beat cork)

If the 3 finish level the score differences will be from the games between the 3.
Clare games won't count.

That's not true.

[Rossfan]

Is it not?
Source?

[Estimator]

Is it not?
Source?

From Page 1:

If a Team is Disqualified or Retires
•    If a team is disqualified or retired during the course of the League Stage, its played Games shall still stand and its unplayed Games shall be awarded to the Opposing Teams

When Teams finish with equal points for Qualification for the Concluding Stages, the tie shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified:

(i) Where two Teams only are involved - the outcome of the meeting of the two Teams in the previous game in the Competition;

(ii) Scoring Difference (subtracting the total Scores Against from total Scores For);

(iii) Highest Total Score For;

(iv) Highest Total Goals For;

(v) A Play-Off

In the event that two teams or more finish with equal points, but have been affected by a disqualification, loss of game on a proven objection, retirement or walkover, the tie shall be decided by the following means:

(i) Least number of Walkovers given.
(ii) Score Difference from the games in which only the teams involved, (teams tied on points), have played each other (subtracting the total Scores Against from the total Scores For)
(iii) Highest Total Score For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii)
(iv) Highest Total Goals For, in which only the teams involved have played each other, and have finished equal in (ii) & (iii)
(v) A Play-Off

The rules above are badly structured/written -  But all games count.

The only way the Clare results would be ruled out, is if they don't fulfil their final fixture.

The bit in bold is how the groups will be sorted with teams on level points.

[GAABoardMod5]

Thanks Estimator...

Sometimes I don't have much faith is people's ability to read and retain.

GAA Master Fixtures Booklet 2024 contains all the info (pg 28 for deciding teams on level points), but why would any posters bother reading the rule book on competitions, let alone the rules of playing.

[Rossfan]

Thanks chaps

[Armagh18]

Cork 4pts 4+
Donegal 2pts +5
Tyrone 2pts +7

Going to be an exciting finish to the group in 2 weeks. If Tyrone can beat Cork and stay within 2 points of Donegal's score (assuming they beat Clare) then we'll top the group.

Cork just have to Draw and they top the group

Donegal need a win and beat Tyrone's score by 1 and they'll take it on the top spot (assuming tyrone beat cork)

If the 3 finish level the score differences will be from the games between the 3.
Clare games won't count.

Yes they will.

[giveherlong]

When are the final round of fixtures going to be confirmed?

[Blowitupref]

When are the final round of fixtures going to be confirmed?

Confirmed

Saturday 15 June

Castlebar, 3pm: Donegal v Clare

Tullamore or Portlaoise, 3pm: Tyrone v Cork (GAAGO)



Teams

TYRONE:

Niall Morgan;
Michael McKernan, Padraig Hampsey, Aidan Clarke;
Kieran McGeary, Matthew Donnelly, Niall Devlin;
Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick;
Ciaran Daly, Ruari Canavan, Michael O'Neill;
Darren McCurry, Darragh Canavan, Sean O'Donnell.

Subs: Oisin O'Kane, Frank Burns, Ronan Cassidy, Ben Cullen, Peter Harte, Nathan McCarron, Lorcan McGarrity, Cathal McShane, Shea O'Hare, Cormac Quinn, Tiernan Quinn.

Cork:

C Kelly;
K Flahive, D O'Mahony, M Shanley;
R Maguire, T Walsh, M Taylor;
I Maguire, C O'Callaghan;
P Walsh,S Powter, B O'Driscoll;
M Cronin, C Óg Jones, B Hurley

Subs Micheal Martin,Sean Meehan,Darragh Cashman,Thomas Clancy,John O'Rourke,Killian O'Hanlon,Fionn Herlily,Eoghan McSweeney,Ruairi Deane,Conor Corbett,Steven Sherlock


DONEGAL:

Shaun Patton
Mark Curran, Brendan McCole, Eoghan Bán Gallagher
Ryan McHugh, Caolan McGonagle, Peadar Mogan
Ciaran Moore, Michael Langan
Shane O Donnell, Ciaran Thompson, Daire Ó Baoill
Patrick McBrearty, Oisin Gallen, Niall O Donnell.


Subs: Daithí MacRoibeard, Kevin McGettigan, Stephen McMenamin, Odhran Doherty, Conor O'Donnell, Jeaic MacCeallbhuí, Hugh McFadden, Aaron Doherty, Jamie Brennan, Domhnall MacGiolla Bhride, Cathal MacAonghása.

CLARE:

Stephen Ryan
Manus Doherty, Cillian Brennan, Ronan Lanigan
Alan Sweeney, Cillian Rouine, Ikem Ugweru
Brian McNamara, Michéal Garry
Daniel Walsh, Dermot Coughlan, Gavin Murray
Ciarán Downes, Aaron Griffin, Emmet McMahon.

Subs: Tristan O Callaghan, Cormac Murray, Darren Nagle, Jamie Stack, Diarmuid O'Donnell, Mark McInerney, Joe McGann, Éinne O Connor, Cian Burke, Shane Griffin, James Curran.

[J70]

Early scores

Cork 0-3 Tyrone 0-3
Donegal 1-1 Clare 0-1

[Armagh18]

Enjoyable enough so far. Cork well up for it

[omagh_gael]

Neil Neilan going to act the bollix today