Sam Maguire 2024 Group 3 - Donegal, Clare, Tyrone, Cork

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J70

Cork win by two. Donegal blew a few opportunities late on. Sickener after a good comeback. But deserved win for Cork.

Preliminary quarter final for us, assuming we beat Clare, unless we manage to run up the score and Tyrone beat Cork.

RedHand88


From the Bunker

The week turn around for Donegal, a rested Cork, the journey down to Cork and Cork being a decent side made this a tricky fixture.

Cunny Funt

Those two Cork goals at the start of the 2nd half proved the turning point. Without talking away from their win they did have the advantage with two weeks to prepare while a seven day turnaround for Donegal.

J70

They turned Donegal over a lot in the first 50 minutes. Got two goals from it. The likes of Mogan and Eoghan Ban were much less effective with their running. Maybe no harm in the larger scheme as it gives McGuinness plenty to work on.

We'll need the rest too as a few players like McGee went off with knocks.

Ciarrai_thuaidh

Big result for Cork there today. Joke it wasn't available on TV anywhere.

Cork turned Donegal over repeatedly - basically did a Donegal on them. Finished 3 goals and missed 2/3 more chances. Donegal made a valiant effort to get level but Cork just about held out.

Blows group wide open now. Cork v Tyrone is a big one.

Ulster overrated a tad or Donegal just a bit jaded/complacent??
"Better to die on your feet,than live on your knees"...

Armagh18

Was always a tough fixture going down there and facing a very talented and fresh Cork team.

Dunneroyal

Ulster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
Hon the royal

J70

Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 01, 2024, 04:50:02 PMBig result for Cork there today. Joke it wasn't available on TV anywhere.

Cork turned Donegal over repeatedly - basically did a Donegal on them. Finished 3 goals and missed 2/3 more chances. Donegal made a valiant effort to get level but Cork just about held out.

Blows group wide open now. Cork v Tyrone is a big one.

Ulster overrated a tad or Donegal just a bit jaded/complacent??

Who is overrating Ulster?

Has anyone said any Ulster team is better than Dublin or even Kerry. Derry were/are fancied to be competitive, as are Donegal and Armagh, but is anyone putting them down as ahead of Kerry and Dublin?

It is a simple fact though that Ulster is very hard to win because there are a bunch of teams at a similar level and playing in the Sam Maguire series.

Maybe the Dubs would have won a bunch of Ulsters, but to do so, they'd have to be at full pelt each season a lot earlier than they have had to be in Leinster.

JoG2

Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on June 01, 2024, 04:50:02 PMBig result for Cork there today. Joke it wasn't available on TV anywhere.

Cork turned Donegal over repeatedly - basically did a Donegal on them. Finished 3 goals and missed 2/3 more chances. Donegal made a valiant effort to get level but Cork just about held out.

Blows group wide open now. Cork v Tyrone is a big one.

Ulster overrated a tad or Donegal just a bit jaded/complacent??

More competitive then overrated I'd say. 3 teams at could potentially reach a semi, 4 if Tyrone (hopefully don't) get themselves sorted. Tbh I'd be very surprised if Donegal get out of the quarters.

Leinster has 1, Munster maybe 2 and Connacht 2 that could reach the last 4

markl121

Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.

JoG2

Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.

A mighty take. Whatever about the rest which is left field, Kerry winning a hypothetical 8 is a load of, well, balls

Mario

Quote from: JoG2 on June 01, 2024, 05:24:46 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.

A mighty take. Whatever about the rest which is left field, Kerry winning a hypothetical 8 is a load of, well, balls
Why do Kerry always get grouped with Dublin. They are very much in the pack behind Dublin with the top Ulster and Connacht teams. They were embarrassed in their last visit to Croke park

Dunneroyal

Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.
Hon the royal

JoG2

Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: markl121 on June 01, 2024, 05:20:56 PM
Quote from: Dunneroyal on June 01, 2024, 04:56:56 PMUlster while been competitive is not the B all and end all. Even Leinster would be hugely competitive with Westmeath Kildare louth Meath probably winning it over last decade if not for Dublin dominating. Munster same with tipp (who did win one) clare cork and maybe even limerick if no Kerry. Ulster is competitive no doubt. But Dublin would have at least 10 of the last 12 ulster titles and Kerry maybe 8.
ah now, that's like saying the SPL would be competitive if the Glasgow teams weren't in it. But they are, and Dublin are. It's almost like saying the other teams are all as shit as each other.
 Dublin and Kerry are A+ grade teams. Ulster has 4 A-B grade teams who tear strips off each other. I would like to see how Dublin and Kerry would get on having to be at your best for 2-3 games in a time of the season where they are usually on the beach.
Dublin have swept aside ulster teams as easily as they have Leinster for most of the last decade.

If you're going to double down, best to make it a good one!