Westminster General Election 2024

Started by lurganblue, May 22, 2024, 04:45:49 PM

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johnnycool

National Service for all 18yo's...
Tax relief on rented property
Cancelling "Mickey Mouse" degrees.

The Torys are throwing out policies two to a dozen to see if any of them will actually get traction with voters.

Armagh18

Quote from: johnnycool on May 29, 2024, 04:53:39 PMNational Service for all 18yo's...
Tax relief on rented property
Cancelling "Mickey Mouse" degrees.

The Torys are throwing out policies two to a dozen to see if any of them will actually get traction with voters.
That'll all go well with their voter base.

markl121

The Mickey Mouse degree thing is a good idea tbf

marty34

Quote from: Pub Bore on May 29, 2024, 03:46:52 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 29, 2024, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on May 29, 2024, 12:18:44 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq554q5w7k7o

Quite a close season signing by the Shinners...

She's been a member for years and years, would have been involved with canvassing and the like.

I get the impression that Unionists (and the media) have been blindsided by this.

I remember her saying that there should be a re-united Ireland as the health system would be a lot better...something like this?

marty34

Quote from: armaghniac on May 29, 2024, 04:40:11 PMOn current numbers, the Lib Dems will become the official opposition. First past the post is bollix.
Mind you some of the sitting Conservatives might retain their seats, owing to good local work and perhaps being remainers and anti Johnson, if there are any left.

LAB: 540 (+343)
CON: 29 (-347)
LIB: 46 (+38)
REF: 0 (-)
GRN: 2 (+1)
SNP: 12 (-36)

Is the SNP in for a tanking in Scotland?

Pub Bore

Quote from: marty34 on May 29, 2024, 05:02:18 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 29, 2024, 04:40:11 PMOn current numbers, the Lib Dems will become the official opposition. First past the post is bollix.
Mind you some of the sitting Conservatives might retain their seats, owing to good local work and perhaps being remainers and anti Johnson, if there are any left.

LAB: 540 (+343)
CON: 29 (-347)
LIB: 46 (+38)
REF: 0 (-)
GRN: 2 (+1)
SNP: 12 (-36)

Is the SNP in for a tanking in Scotland?

Yeah, I think they'll lose about half their seats - I think they have about 44 at the moment.

Armagh18

Quote from: armaghniac on May 29, 2024, 04:40:11 PMOn current numbers, the Lib Dems will become the official opposition. First past the post is bollix.
Mind you some of the sitting Conservatives might retain their seats, owing to good local work and perhaps being remainers and anti Johnson, if there are any left.

LAB: 540 (+343)
CON: 29 (-347)
LIB: 46 (+38)
REF: 0 (-)
GRN: 2 (+1)
SNP: 12 (-36)
Still 29 seats too many for the c***ts!

marty34

Quote from: Pub Bore on May 29, 2024, 05:05:49 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 29, 2024, 05:02:18 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 29, 2024, 04:40:11 PMOn current numbers, the Lib Dems will become the official opposition. First past the post is bollix.
Mind you some of the sitting Conservatives might retain their seats, owing to good local work and perhaps being remainers and anti Johnson, if there are any left.

LAB: 540 (+343)
CON: 29 (-347)
LIB: 46 (+38)
REF: 0 (-)
GRN: 2 (+1)
SNP: 12 (-36)

Is the SNP in for a tanking in Scotland?

Yeah, I think they'll lose about half their seats - I think they have about 44 at the moment.

They have lost some momentum since Salmond and Sturgeon were flying high.

johnnycool

Quote from: markl121 on May 29, 2024, 05:01:09 PMThe Mickey Mouse degree thing is a good idea tbf

Would going to Oxford and studying Classics, ancient languages, literature, history, and philosophy be considered a Mickey Mouse degree?

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: johnnycool on May 29, 2024, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: markl121 on May 29, 2024, 05:01:09 PMThe Mickey Mouse degree thing is a good idea tbf

Would going to Oxford and studying Classics, ancient languages, literature, history, and philosophy be considered a Mickey Mouse degree?

Uni should teach you two things:
- how to research and learn independently of tuition
- knowledge in topics of immediate value in society

Far too many courses in far too many universities aren't worth two sh!tes for either.

If Oxford were churning out hundreds of graduates a year in ancient languages, then I'd suggest most of those graduates will find the topics covered useless; but because of the standards and expectations, they will have learned how to dig up information and learn in other matters through the rest of their life.

Probably fair to say that the average student could pick a better subject than the classics in somewhere like Oxford, but it should still offer enough transferrable skills to be useful.
i usse an speelchekor

RadioGAAGAA

... and as for the general subject.

Representative democracy is a load of balls.

If the job of running the country were based on qualifications and interview, how many of them would even get beyond initial CV screening?


Something could probably be salvaged from it if there were two houses:
- elected house of commons to bring the will of the people to governance
- elected house of professionals (professional bodies electing technically adept individuals)

No bill can be passed into law without approval of both houses.


Funnily enough, no room there for lord and lady of the manor. Who have done f**k all but either lick the right arse or fall out of the right arse.
i usse an speelchekor

RedHand88

Quote from: marty34 on May 29, 2024, 05:01:20 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on May 29, 2024, 03:46:52 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 29, 2024, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on May 29, 2024, 12:18:44 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq554q5w7k7o

Quite a close season signing by the Shinners...

She's been a member for years and years, would have been involved with canvassing and the like.

I get the impression that Unionists (and the media) have been blindsided by this.

I remember her saying that there should be a re-united Ireland as the health system would be a lot better...something like this?


Yes thats her. She's right.

LC

Quote from: RedHand88 on May 29, 2024, 07:54:25 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 29, 2024, 05:01:20 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on May 29, 2024, 03:46:52 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on May 29, 2024, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on May 29, 2024, 12:18:44 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq554q5w7k7o

Quite a close season signing by the Shinners...

She's been a member for years and years, would have been involved with canvassing and the like.

I get the impression that Unionists (and the media) have been blindsided by this.

I remember her saying that there should be a re-united Ireland as the health system would be a lot better...something like this?


Yes thats her. She's right.

Originally from Carrickmore I believe so no surprise she has got on board with SF.

From seeing her being interviewed over the course of the nurses strike she comes across well.  For SF she would have been a good person to have south of the border as they are a bit light when it comes to strong performers.  I imagine she will win fairly easy but as an abstaining MP she will not do a lot or be seen much after that.

marty34

This is the type of candidate that SF are 'going after' now I think.  Moving away, to a certain extent, from the old guard. Pat is new blood, if you pardon the pun!

If she is successful, would she go down the route of Health Minister at some stage? She would have a better knowledge that most of this portfolio.

Maybe some long term planning here but needs to get elected first obviously.

Snapchat might know more?

gallsman

The thing with Health portfolio is that nobody with any sense wants to touch it from a political perspective.