Hurling 2024

Started by imtommygunn, February 04, 2024, 03:11:48 PM

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imtommygunn

Yeah that is it in a nutshell. Absolutely no way should Clare have lost those last two but KK are extremely dogged and while they're not like a team from the Cody era they still have some superb hurlers in there too.

Ultimately they have been the second best team in the country this past 2 years and up to Clare to break that.

20 years a long time.

seafoid

Quote from: imtommygunn on April 05, 2024, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: seafoid on April 05, 2024, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 05, 2024, 12:56:43 PMDid you watch the last 2 AI semi finals SF...
I did
But Clare are on the way up and the odds are level so I think they are worth a win
https://www.oddschecker.com/gaelic-games/hurling/national-hurling-league-division-1/winner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p5Lewbwp5c

what has got better about them and worse about kk though?
Time. KK are a year older. They aren't getting younger.

Clare have had time to think about where they want to go . If they want to kick on they have the opportunity to show it. Tá siad ag teacht.

seafoid

#137
Kilkenny  just ended a spell of l0 minutes without scoring  Clare are more efficient. If KK lose it will be the 4th national final lost by Huw Lawlor in 12 months.

https://youtu.be/0ver0lMNMgw

imtommygunn

Do you need to lose a limb to get a free here...

seafoid


imtommygunn

Kk looked poor enough but still managed to stay in it to the end. Clare have a good spread of forwards appearing there even without Kelly.

Capt Pat

Clare deserved it in the end I think. But the ref nearly handed the result to Kilkenny with the wrong decision to give Kilkenny a penalty and Rodgers a black card. Justice was done when Cody missed the penalty.

Kidder81

Quote from: Capt Pat on April 06, 2024, 09:05:38 PMClare deserved it in the end I think. But the ref nearly handed the result to Kilkenny with the wrong decision to give Kilkenny a penalty and Rodgers a black card. Justice was done when Cody missed the penalty.

You can give a penalty inside the 21 I thought

seafoid

I think this is the 4th national final in a row that KK have lost.
Normally a team in such a situation would turn to the injection of youth but KK don't have a conveyor belt of talent available.

Capt Pat

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Quote from: Kidder81 on April 06, 2024, 09:09:43 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on April 06, 2024, 09:05:38 PMClare deserved it in the end I think. But the ref nearly handed the result to Kilkenny with the wrong decision to give Kilkenny a penalty and Rodgers a black card. Justice was done when Cody missed the penalty.

You can give a penalty inside the 21 I thought

The ball was passed away and fumbled by the receiving kilkenny player when there was accidental contact between Rodgers and the passing Kilkenny player. Not a penalty or a black card imho.

The penalty and black card is for cynical fouls only denying goal scoring chances inside the 20 yard line.

Bord na Mona man

It would have been some injustice if Clare had lost the game coming down the strait. Especially as the ref looked to be giving the Cats plenty of assistance near the end.
Cody hitting the penalty down into the mud patch was a schoolboy error. TJ Reid would have put it high towards the top corner.

Saffrongael

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on April 07, 2024, 09:04:30 AMIt would have been some injustice if Clare had lost the game coming down the strait. Especially as the ref looked to be giving the Cats plenty of assistance near the end.
Cody hitting the penalty down into the mud patch was a schoolboy error. TJ Reid would have put it high towards the top corner.


In fairness he let Fitzgerald take close to 10 steps for his goal, you don't usually see a player being allowed to pause, cut inside (while still not taking a tap) and then continue
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

seafoid

#147
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on April 07, 2024, 09:04:30 AMIt would have been some injustice if Clare had lost the game coming down the strait. Especially as the ref looked to be giving the Cats plenty of assistance near the end.
Cody hitting the penalty down into the mud patch was a schoolboy error. TJ Reid would have put it high towards the top corner.

That's the Kilkenny problem in a nutshell. It takes years to develop a TJ Reid or a Johnny Sexton.

marty34

Quote from: Saffrongael on April 07, 2024, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on April 07, 2024, 09:04:30 AMIt would have been some injustice if Clare had lost the game coming down the strait. Especially as the ref looked to be giving the Cats plenty of assistance near the end.
Cody hitting the penalty down into the mud patch was a schoolboy error. TJ Reid would have put it high towards the top corner.


In fairness he let Fitzgerald take close to 10 steps for his goal, you don't usually see a player being allowed to pause, cut inside (while still not taking a tap) and then continue

He's a serious man for taking 10 steps.

In fairness, easily the best player in the National League this year. Clare will be hoping he keeps this run of form up. With David Mc Enerney, Shanagher and O'Donnell off the bench last night Clare are working on developing their panel. Just need them injury free as Munster will be tough.

Lohan needed the win last night to justify his work. Well deserved. Were the better team throughout. Clare were hungry and aggressive and in Mc Carthy and Duggan, they have good outlets up top.

Malone works hard in mid-field, Cleary is an old style full-back with Hogan developing into a super man marker/cornerback.  With TK to come back, they'll by boosted for Munster.

KK were disappointing although they still have that never say die spirit. They seemed to be off the boil a bit e.g. Blanchfield missing the pick twice for Clare's goal.  Simple stuff.
Cody's penalty was poorly struck in the marsh. Who know what would have happened if it went in but they didn't deserve it.

TJ was a big miss as on out bll at full-forward although Mossy Keoghan showed really well when introduced - 3 points I think.   

NAG1

Quote from: marty34 on April 07, 2024, 12:25:20 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on April 07, 2024, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on April 07, 2024, 09:04:30 AMIt would have been some injustice if Clare had lost the game coming down the strait. Especially as the ref looked to be giving the Cats plenty of assistance near the end.
Cody hitting the penalty down into the mud patch was a schoolboy error. TJ Reid would have put it high towards the top corner.


In fairness he let Fitzgerald take close to 10 steps for his goal, you don't usually see a player being allowed to pause, cut inside (while still not taking a tap) and then continue

He's a serious man for taking 10 steps.

In fairness, easily the best player in the National League this year. Clare will be hoping he keeps this run of form up. With David Mc Enerney, Shanagher and O'Donnell off the bench last night Clare are working on developing their panel. Just need them injury free as Munster will be tough.

Lohan needed the win last night to justify his work. Well deserved. Were the better team throughout. Clare were hungry and aggressive and in Mc Carthy and Duggan, they have good outlets up top.

Malone works hard in mid-field, Cleary is an old style full-back with Hogan developing into a super man marker/cornerback.  With TK to come back, they'll by boosted for Munster.

KK were disappointing although they still have that never say die spirit. They seemed to be off the boil a bit e.g. Blanchfield missing the pick twice for Clare's goal.  Simple stuff.
Cody's penalty was poorly struck in the marsh. Who know what would have happened if it went in but they didn't deserve it.

TJ was a big miss as on out bll at full-forward although Mossy Keoghan showed really well when introduced - 3 points I think.   

KK were/ are poor I dont see anything improving them drastically as the championship gets going. TJ will slightly but think he is on the other side of it.

They seem to be producing the same type of player at the moment with nothing really standing out.