Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

Started by bennydorano, October 07, 2023, 09:39:18 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

seafoid

Gaza could lose Biden the election. It is already damaging Starmer.

Wildweasel74

Biden I think was struggling anyway in the election stakes, but his attitude to Gaza will sink him. Not that trump be any benefit, I think he actually be worse, but alot of Biden voters might just not vote,

Armagh18

Quote from: seafoid on March 02, 2024, 05:49:29 PMGaza could lose Biden the election. It is already damaging Starmer.
The funny thing is the other side would be as bad or worse in both cases. If either had a set of balls or a shred of decency between them they'd take a proper stand.

Tubberman

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 03, 2024, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 02, 2024, 05:49:29 PMGaza could lose Biden the election. It is already damaging Starmer.
The funny thing is the other side would be as bad or worse in both cases. If either had a set of balls or a shred of decency between them they'd take a proper stand.

It's quite depressing that the "world leaders" don't seem to have any moral courage.
I thought the world had advanced, but people are still willing to turn a blind eye to inconvenient atrocities.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Armagh18

Quote from: Tubberman on March 03, 2024, 09:53:17 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 03, 2024, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 02, 2024, 05:49:29 PMGaza could lose Biden the election. It is already damaging Starmer.
The funny thing is the other side would be as bad or worse in both cases. If either had a set of balls or a shred of decency between them they'd take a proper stand.

It's quite depressing that the "world leaders" don't seem to have any moral courage.
I thought the world had advanced, but people are still willing to turn a blind eye to inconvenient atrocities.
and to this day people wonder how the Nazis got away with it.

Captain Scarlet

Sadly when we say World Leaders we have a lad in the UK who has never run for PM in an election, who replaced another lad who was the same. He is too busy firefighting at home.

The USA is amoral and with Trump looming the Democrats don't want to lose any pro-Israel money. Again, minding their own house.

In other words the Conservative Party and the Democrats are more important than thousands being slaughtered. That's just two players and others will take the lead from the USA.

It's just perverse that aid is being dropped along with weapons supplied by the same notion...
them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

seafoid

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on March 03, 2024, 11:32:33 AMSadly when we say World Leaders we have a lad in the UK who has never run for PM in an election, who replaced another lad who was the same. He is too busy firefighting at home.

The USA is amoral and with Trump looming the Democrats don't want to lose any pro-Israel money. Again, minding their own house.

In other words the Conservative Party and the Democrats are more important than thousands being slaughtered. That's just two players and others will take the lead from the USA.

It's just perverse that aid is being dropped along with weapons supplied by the same notion...
The leaders of Germany, the UK and the US are not acting in their own self interest.

johnnycool

Quote from: seafoid on March 03, 2024, 02:53:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on March 03, 2024, 11:32:33 AMSadly when we say World Leaders we have a lad in the UK who has never run for PM in an election, who replaced another lad who was the same. He is too busy firefighting at home.

The USA is amoral and with Trump looming the Democrats don't want to lose any pro-Israel money. Again, minding their own house.

In other words the Conservative Party and the Democrats are more important than thousands being slaughtered. That's just two players and others will take the lead from the USA.

It's just perverse that aid is being dropped along with weapons supplied by the same notion...
The leaders of Germany, the UK and the US are not acting in their own self interest.
That depends.

Billions of dollars of "aid" is being paid by the tax payers in said countries to the Military–industrial complex cohort of companies who are only too glad to give countries, any country capable of firing their weapons on unarmed civilians who're starving to death.

I'm beginning to question what democracy in the west actually looks like.

Could someone with a totally different message really get into power in the US or indeed the UK? I really don't think so.

AustinPowers

George Galloway to be sworn in  as an MP  today

Will be interesting to  see how things  go over the next while

The fact that Sunak held a  press conference  straightaway after the election result  says it all.  They won't want him  highlighting  their  continued support for Israel

Milltown Row2

I wonder will George do is swearing in with the voice of a pussy cat?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

imtommygunn

What was Sunak's speech about on friday night? He really is a cretin of a man tbh. I think he has no more scruples than Johnson. I didn't think that was even possible but the tories can keep finding them.

Galloway an interesting one that's thrown the cat amongst the pigeons. He has a very poor record of attendance in parliament. Second only to SF apparently. I hope he throws the cat amongst the pigeons in westminster but it looks like all anyone gets is one question to Sunak a week who doesn't even answer the question anyway so it's nothing more than a circus.

(Any right thinking person , unionist or nationalist, would in the interest of themselves want away from these guys because they are robbing everyone blind and then claiming the country is broke...)

trailer

It' sickening and sickening to watch helplessly. Cannot for the life of me understand why other nations in the ME are standing doing nothing. Especially Egypt. Surely evacuating women and children would be an easy start.

In years to come people will look and ask why countries did nothing...

From the Bunker

Quote from: trailer on March 04, 2024, 12:42:54 PMIt' sickening and sickening to watch helplessly. Cannot for the life of me understand why other nations in the ME are standing doing nothing. Especially Egypt. Surely evacuating women and children would be an easy start.

In years to come people will look and ask why countries did nothing...


Egypt taking in refugees is what Israel wants. That would be even tidier than genocide in removing Palestinians. Women and children removed would see a bigger massacre of left behind Men. Who would be labelled as Hamas. Media/society never pity a massacre of men.

trailer

Quote from: From the Bunker on March 04, 2024, 01:13:48 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 04, 2024, 12:42:54 PMIt' sickening and sickening to watch helplessly. Cannot for the life of me understand why other nations in the ME are standing doing nothing. Especially Egypt. Surely evacuating women and children would be an easy start.

In years to come people will look and ask why countries did nothing...


Egypt taking in refugees is what Israel wants. That would be even tidier than genocide in removing Palestinians. Women and children removed would see a bigger massacre of left behind Men. Who would be labelled as Hamas. Media/society never pity a massacre of men.

f**k I don't know. I can't even watch the news. Absolutely cruel.

seafoid

Quote from: trailer on March 04, 2024, 12:42:54 PMIt' sickening and sickening to watch helplessly. Cannot for the life of me understand why other nations in the ME are standing doing nothing. Especially Egypt. Surely evacuating women and children would be an easy start.

In years to come people will look and ask why countries did nothing...

The Egyptian army is sponsored by the Americans under the terms of the 1979 Camp David peace treaty that Sadat negotiated. I think they get around $1.5bn a year for the army. The other part of the treaty was the establishment of a Palestinian State but Israel ignored it.
Egypt is fairly fragile. They cannot aford to take any refugees, not that they should in the first place. Everyone is waiting to see what the Yanks do.