NFL Division 1 2024

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Wildweasel74

Funny, I thought it showed that Dublin still a noche above everybody else,when it comes to the crunch.

ONeill

Quote from: Manning18 on February 25, 2024, 12:21:02 AMDon't like complaining about refs and a neutral in this one but how does Brendan Cawley keep getting games? Every time I watch him ref a game it's farcical and tonight was no different. Is there no judging panel?

Some absolutely bizarre decisions throughout, for both sides although Tyrone got the worst of it

You didn't know where he stood on tackling. Early on he blew for any contact at all, and Tyrone suffered. Second half, he gave Tyrone a few handy ones close to goal and allowed Tyrone's defence to get up close and personal. First half he didn't.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

marty34

Quote from: ONeill on February 25, 2024, 06:30:53 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on February 25, 2024, 12:21:02 AMDon't like complaining about refs and a neutral in this one but how does Brendan Cawley keep getting games? Every time I watch him ref a game it's farcical and tonight was no different. Is there no judging panel?

Some absolutely bizarre decisions throughout, for both sides although Tyrone got the worst of it

You didn't know where he stood on tackling. Early on he blew for any contact at all, and Tyrone suffered. Second half, he gave Tyrone a few handy ones close to goal and allowed Tyrone's defence to get up close and personal. First half he didn't.

I think the issue is actually the tackle.

3 or 4 men around a lad with a ball, slapping and beating him.

Sometimes given as a free to the defender, other times it's bell up for overcarrying.

Needs to be simplified.

Rossfan

It is.
You tackle the ball.
Any slapping, hitting, pulling, puahing, tripping is a foul.
Ref's interpretation isn't constant from game to game or the same game even.
I
can't be blowing for everything therefore a lot of fouls in the tackle are let go. Otherwise it's a free every 30 seconds.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

seafoid

Quote from: From the Bunker on February 24, 2024, 10:10:52 PMDublin used to target Mayo games back in the day when we were a threat. We took some wallopings in the League. We never beat them in that period in the League. Between the League and Championship it was a procession of beatings. They would have targeted this game. Not giving your main rivals an inch sets the tone for the rest of the year.
It felt like a normal Saturday with the sports news on the radio and the previews in the papers and the analysis on the telly but it's all an illusion. Once the match started everything was back to the 6 in a row. Competition in Gaelic football is dead. It's groundhog day.

The GAA weaponised Dublin's population advantage. The Dubs own the sport as a result. This didn't start yesterday. It has been going on for almost 2 decades. 

Maybe Derry are the new Mayo. If so, a future of one point hammerings awaits hi.  Mickey Harte wants to win everything but when he was breaking barriers the dubs were a totally different animal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3G1bwD0ao0


And why don't Kildare and Meath compete ? Even Fermanagh can compete in Ulster. WTF . Why don't they just cop on? And Tyrone were really poor to win just one all Ireland . Yeah. Jesus. etc etc

In 10 years Kerry won one all Ireland. Dublin won 8. Kerry can't produce fully formed players as fast as Dublin can. 

It's really weird to feel sorry for Kerry.

Manning18

Quote from: tbrick18 on February 25, 2024, 12:26:19 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on February 25, 2024, 12:21:02 AMDon't like complaining about refs and a neutral in this one but how does Brendan Cawley keep getting games? Every time I watch him ref a game it's farcical and tonight was no different. Is there no judging panel?

Some absolutely bizarre decisions throughout, for both sides although Tyrone got the worst of it

I was at the game a d whilst I agree he was poor, I thought in the 2nd half in particular he was very good to tyrone.
Should have sent off Conn Kilpatrick near the end for attempting to strike, I stead he got away with a yellow. Numerous bad decisions on both sides but I think tyrone got the better of it.

Thought the black card and penalty was wrong and was such a big moment but yeah Tyrone got a couple of handy frees in the second half and that Conn moment was a definite sending off.

I actually thought the most bizarre part was his timekeeping. O'Donnell was down injured for 5 1/2 mins. They played 7 mins more after he went off, 1 of which was also a stoppage. And the second half was very stop start, so there should've been 5 or 6 more added even before the long injury

Captain Obvious

Quote from: seafoid on February 25, 2024, 11:28:22 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 24, 2024, 10:10:52 PMDublin used to target Mayo games back in the day when we were a threat. We took some wallopings in the League. We never beat them in that period in the League. Between the League and Championship it was a procession of beatings. They would have targeted this game. Not giving your main rivals an inch sets the tone for the rest of the year.
It felt like a normal Saturday with the sports news on the radio and the previews in the papers and the analysis on the telly but it's all an illusion. Once the match started everything was back to the 6 in a row. Competition in Gaelic football is dead. It's groundhog day.

The GAA weaponised Dublin's population advantage. The Dubs own the sport as a result. This didn't start yesterday. It has been going on for almost 2 decades. 

Maybe Derry are the new Mayo. If so, a future of one point hammerings awaits hi.  Mickey Harte wants to win everything but when he was breaking barriers the dubs were a totally different animal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3G1bwD0ao0


And why don't Kildare and Meath compete ? Even Fermanagh can compete in Ulster. WTF . Why don't they just cop on? And Tyrone were really poor to win just one all Ireland . Yeah. Jesus. etc etc

In 10 years Kerry won one all Ireland. Dublin won 8. Kerry can't produce fully formed players as fast as Dublin can. 

It's really weird to feel sorry for Kerry.

No such thing and few of those narrow losses was matches there to be won for Mayo. If given the same chance I doubt a Mickey Harte managed Derry would do the same.


Eire90

did dublin just put a lot of people off caring about the all ireland this year.

Derryman forever

While I agree with much of SeaFoids post above.
Kerry were very poor yesterday. They had no shape in Defence at all in the first half. Dublin were let do as they pleased.
2nd half they got some shape and Dubin took a while to adjust.
You wont see too many games where the Cliffords are as poor as they were yesterday.
Which begs the question are they too reliant on David Clifford kicking 9 point or more?

Mario

Quote from: Eire90 on February 25, 2024, 12:44:48 PMdid dublin just put a lot of people off caring about the all ireland this year.
Quote from: Eire90 on February 25, 2024, 12:44:48 PMdid dublin just put a lot of people off caring about the all ireland this year.
Quote from: Eire90 on February 25, 2024, 12:44:48 PMdid dublin just put a lot of people off caring about the all ireland this year.
Isn't this just the league and should we be worried about them peaking too early? Seems to be the narrative when any other team wins big in D1

seafoid

Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 25, 2024, 12:37:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 25, 2024, 11:28:22 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 24, 2024, 10:10:52 PMDublin used to target Mayo games back in the day when we were a threat. We took some wallopings in the League. We never beat them in that period in the League. Between the League and Championship it was a procession of beatings. They would have targeted this game. Not giving your main rivals an inch sets the tone for the rest of the year.
It felt like a normal Saturday with the sports news on the radio and the previews in the papers and the analysis on the telly but it's all an illusion. Once the match started everything was back to the 6 in a row. Competition in Gaelic football is dead. It's groundhog day.

The GAA weaponised Dublin's population advantage. The Dubs own the sport as a result. This didn't start yesterday. It has been going on for almost 2 decades. 

Maybe Derry are the new Mayo. If so, a future of one point hammerings awaits hi.  Mickey Harte wants to win everything but when he was breaking barriers the dubs were a totally different animal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3G1bwD0ao0


And why don't Kildare and Meath compete ? Even Fermanagh can compete in Ulster. WTF . Why don't they just cop on? And Tyrone were really poor to win just one all Ireland . Yeah. Jesus. etc etc

In 10 years Kerry won one all Ireland. Dublin won 8. Kerry can't produce fully formed players as fast as Dublin can. 

It's really weird to feel sorry for Kerry.

No such thing and few of those narrow losses was matches there to be won for Mayo. If given the same chance I doubt a Mickey Harte managed Derry would do the same.


Let's see

I remember last year all the talk in the papers about how Dublin were finished. They came in under the radar. The obstacle course that is the new championship is no bother to them. They always win Leinster. Top of the round robins. Quarter finals a doddle. Semi finals just turn on the turbo after 65 minutes. Same in the final.

Let's see how long the challengers can keep up the pretence.

I counted 7 new players yesterday compared to the 2020 final.

2020
Cluxton
Fitzsimons Byrne Cooper
Murchan Small MCDaid
Fenton McCarthy
Scully Kilkenny Bugler
Small O^Callaghan Rock

Dublin:2024  D O'Hanlon;
S MacMahon, T Clancy, E Murchan;
C Murphy, J Small, L Gannon 0-01;
B Fenton 0-01, P Ó Cofaigh Byrne;
R McGarry 0-01, S Bugler 0-03, C Kilkenny 0-03 (1m);
P Small 0-03, C O'Callaghan 3-04 (1-00 pen, 0-02f), N Scully 0-01.

They just have a much bigger production line.

seafoid

Quote from: Derryman forever on February 25, 2024, 01:04:42 PMWhile I agree with much of SeaFoids post above.
Kerry were very poor yesterday. They had no shape in Defence at all in the first half. Dublin were let do as they pleased.
2nd half they got some shape and Dubin took a while to adjust.
You wont see too many games where the Cliffords are as poor as they were yesterday.
Which begs the question are they too reliant on David Clifford kicking 9 point or more?

Kerry can't peak whenever they feel like it. Dublin can.
They are like the Limerick hurlers. Faster, fitter, sharper, more accurate, more skilled.
Kerry and the rest are AMATEURS.

NotedObserver

Is Paul mannion about the squad?

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screenexile

So we can just run into lads from 5 yards away and they get a black card??