NFL Division 1 2024

[RedHand88]

Tyrone went downhill badly from their All-Ireland win, hard to nail what's wrong, or why they fell away.If they haven't Morgan or Canavan available they be in serious trouble

It;s quite easy - there was a plethora of lads who retired or dropped out after the AI win. They had put in years a drudgery under Harte, got to the promised land under Dooher. They knew they were not at the beginning of something big but at the end and counted their blessings to have got an AI at the end of it all.

As much as they don't want to hear it you can see that they were an average team who took advantage of all the breaks they got that year.

It was said at the time on numerous occasions and rebutted but the past few years have clearly showed it!

An average team who beat Cavan (Ulster champions), Donegal, Monaghan, Kerry and Mayo (comfortably).
Please please can people stop the "Tyrone were lucky" crap because its getting boring. They were the best team in Ireland that year. If they were lucky they wouldn't have had half the squad missing for the Ulster final!
Dublin and Kerry regularly win all Irelands only needing to beat 1 or 2 Division 1 teams... Lucky?

[Captain Obvious]

Tyrone 2021 was the worst All-Ireland winning team since Dublin in 1995. Dublin wouldn't reach another final after that until 2011.

[sam03/05]

Tyrone have 5 or 6 All Star players missing - Meyler, Burns, McCurry, McShane, Mattie Donnelly, McGeary (latter played 15 mins) so they are missing a few players. Should improve when they have full squad available

[An Watcher]

Tyrone 2021 was the worst All-Ireland winning team since Dublin in 1995. Dublin wouldn't reach another final after that until 2011.

No, I think Derry in 93 were the worst all ireland winning team considering they had basically no real forwards.  Excellent defence and midfield and some good free takers

[Wildweasel74]

Dublin were actually still probably the best team that year, but Mayo caught them on the hop, after years of been beat by them,then couldn't produce the same display after.

[Wildweasel74]

Meath 1996 and Kerry 1997 weren't great either.

[tyroneStatto]

Dublin 2020 was the easiest AI run ever.

[From the Bunker]

Tyrone 2021 was the worst All-Ireland winning team since Dublin in 1995. Dublin wouldn't reach another final after that until 2011.

No, I think Derry in 93 were the worst all ireland winning team considering they had basically no real forwards.  Excellent defence and midfield and some good free takers

Their luck was in, they beat Donegal in an Ulster Final that should never have been played because of underfoot conditions. They also had a bit of luck in the AI with Cork's Tony Davis being sent of for nudging a player in the back.

They were still a handy outfit.

[imtommygunn]

Dublin were actually still probably the best team that year, but Mayo caught them on the hop, after years of been beat by them,then couldn't produce the same display after.

Even in those good years I think mayo could have taken Dublin once or twice but only in a semi final.

Davis only got sent off be because cahalane didn't. Cork were never beating Derry that year.

[inroundthesquare]

Tyrone went downhill badly from their All-Ireland win, hard to nail what's wrong, or why they fell away.If they haven't Morgan or Canavan available they be in serious trouble

It;s quite easy - there was a plethora of lads who retired or dropped out after the AI win. They had put in years a drudgery under Harte, got to the promised land under Dooher. They knew they were not at the beginning of something big but at the end and counted their blessings to have got an AI at the end of it all.

As much as they don't want to hear it you can see that they were an average team who took advantage of all the breaks they got that year.

It was said at the time on numerous occasions and rebutted but the past few years have clearly showed it!

People weren't saying this at the time. They had beaten a Mayo team by 5 points that knocked out 6 in a row Dublin, Kerry, Monaghan, Donegal and Ulster Champions Cavan to win that All Ireland. It was only after Tyrone performed badly in 2022 and moreso in 2023 that pundits began the revisionist history.

[Manning18]

Dublin were actually still probably the best team that year, but Mayo caught them on the hop, after years of been beat by them,then couldn't produce the same display after.

That game was so odd. After a decade of some very good displays against Dublin and mostly losing narrowly, that was probably their worst display yet it was good enough to get over the line. That was a terrible semi final of very low quality, not helped by some poor conditions. Dublin were a beaten docket that year waiting to be put out of their misery, as was hinted at in Leinster

It's Kerry that should've won that all Ireland on the bridle. They left about 2-6 worth of easy scores behind against Tyrone and conceded 3 goals in an extra time loss

[From the Bunker]

Dublin were actually still probably the best team that year, but Mayo caught them on the hop, after years of been beat by them,then couldn't produce the same display after.

That game was so odd. After a decade of some very good displays against Dublin and mostly losing narrowly, that was probably their worst display yet it was good enough to get over the line. That was a terrible semi final of very low quality, not helped by some poor conditions. Dublin were a beaten docket that year waiting to be put out of their misery, as was hinted at in Leinster

It's Kerry that should've won that all Ireland on the bridle. They left about 2-6 worth of easy scores behind against Tyrone and conceded 3 goals in an extra time loss

Referee gave Mayo a few disputable decisions toward the end of normal time. Decisions the Dubs normally get at home.

[Truthsayer]

Dublin were actually still probably the best team that year, but Mayo caught them on the hop, after years of been beat by them,then couldn't produce the same display after.

That game was so odd. After a decade of some very good displays against Dublin and mostly losing narrowly, that was probably their worst display yet it was good enough to get over the line. That was a terrible semi final of very low quality, not helped by some poor conditions. Dublin were a beaten docket that year waiting to be put out of their misery, as was hinted at in Leinster

It's Kerry that should've won that all Ireland on the bridle. They left about 2-6 worth of easy scores behind against Tyrone and conceded 3 goals in an extra time loss

That's why they sent for Paddy Tally.. sorted out their defence.

[seafoid]

Tyrone went downhill badly from their All-Ireland win, hard to nail what's wrong, or why they fell away.If they haven't Morgan or Canavan available they be in serious trouble

It;s quite easy - there was a plethora of lads who retired or dropped out after the AI win. They had put in years a drudgery under Harte, got to the promised land under Dooher. They knew they were not at the beginning of something big but at the end and counted their blessings to have got an AI at the end of it all.

As much as they don't want to hear it you can see that they were an average team who took advantage of all the breaks they got that year.

It was said at the time on numerous occasions and rebutted but the past few years have clearly showed it!

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the League in February

[seafoid]

Dublin were actually still probably the best team that year, but Mayo caught them on the hop, after years of been beat by them,then couldn't produce the same display after.

Even in those good years I think mayo could have taken Dublin once or twice but only in a semi final.

Davis only got sent off be because cahalane didn't. Cork were never beating Derry that year.

Cork destroyed Mayo in the semi final. Derry had a real match against the Dubs. They were 5 points down at half time and won by a point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6zqPAQeF4E