Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[Itchy]

I see we are writing letters now to the EU. You can accuse me of being cynical, but for me this is our great leader's attempt to play to the gallery of public opinion and put forward the illusion that he is doing something. He's doing nothing and he won't do anything. By the time the letter is read, debated, discussed etc the children of Gaza will be dead and Rafah will be a graveyard.

[imtommygunn]

Exactly - hollow words while the world watches on 

[seafoid]

I see we are writing letters now to the EU. You can accuse me of being cynical, but for me this is our great leader's attempt to play to the gallery of public opinion and put forward the illusion that he is doing something. He's doing nothing and he won't do anything. By the time the letter is read, debated, discussed etc the children of Gaza will be dead and Rafah will be a graveyard.

I think you are being cynical. The ICJ is more important that you seem to be allowing for in your analysis. Israel wants to get the Palestinians to flee in panic to Egypt. Forever and ever. Nobody supports them. A lot of things will change in the next few months.

[north_antrim_hound]

I see we are writing letters now to the EU. You can accuse me of being cynical, but for me this is our great leader's attempt to play to the gallery of public opinion and put forward the illusion that he is doing something. He's doing nothing and he won't do anything. By the time the letter is read, debated, discussed etc the children of Gaza will be dead and Rafah will be a graveyard.

Well  M Martin did do something he visited the kabutz with his buddy Netanyahu and listened to the BS about 40 babies etc. Nothing has disgusted me more than the Irish governments response to the continuous massacre of Gaza

[PadraicHenryPearse]

reports of a buffer zone being built in Egypt... Israel doesn't care about red lines as they are meaningless when they are never held to account.

[Itchy]

I see we are writing letters now to the EU. You can accuse me of being cynical, but for me this is our great leader's attempt to play to the gallery of public opinion and put forward the illusion that he is doing something. He's doing nothing and he won't do anything. By the time the letter is read, debated, discussed etc the children of Gaza will be dead and Rafah will be a graveyard.

I think you are being cynical. The ICJ is more important that you seem to be allowing for in your analysis. Israel wants to get the Palestinians to flee in panic to Egypt. Forever and ever. Nobody supports them. A lot of things will change in the next few months.

What has anything you've written there got to do with the Irish government?

We don't have "the next few months"

[armaghniac]

I see we are writing letters now to the EU. You can accuse me of being cynical, but for me this is our great leader's attempt to play to the gallery of public opinion and put forward the illusion that he is doing something. He's doing nothing and he won't do anything. By the time the letter is read, debated, discussed etc the children of Gaza will be dead and Rafah will be a graveyard.

Well  M Martin did do something he visited the kabutz with his buddy Netanyahu and listened to the BS about 40 babies etc. Nothing has disgusted me more than the Irish governments response to the continuous massacre of Gaza

There was a massacre at the Kibbutz also. Justified condemnation of the current events should not start with a false minimisation of that atrocity.

[seafoid]

I see we are writing letters now to the EU. You can accuse me of being cynical, but for me this is our great leader's attempt to play to the gallery of public opinion and put forward the illusion that he is doing something. He's doing nothing and he won't do anything. By the time the letter is read, debated, discussed etc the children of Gaza will be dead and Rafah will be a graveyard.

Well  M Martin did do something he visited the kabutz with his buddy Netanyahu and listened to the BS about 40 babies etc. Nothing has disgusted me more than the Irish governments response to the continuous massacre of Gaza

There was a massacre at the Kibbutz also. Justified condemnation of the current events should not start with a false minimisation of that atrocity.

Hamas did kill Isreli civilians on Oct 7 but not at Kibbutz Be'eri. That was destroyed by the Israeli air force.

[north_antrim_hound]

I see we are writing letters now to the EU. You can accuse me of being cynical, but for me this is our great leader's attempt to play to the gallery of public opinion and put forward the illusion that he is doing something. He's doing nothing and he won't do anything. By the time the letter is read, debated, discussed etc the children of Gaza will be dead and Rafah will be a graveyard.

Well  M Martin did do something he visited the kabutz with his buddy Netanyahu and listened to the BS about 40 babies etc. Nothing has disgusted me more than the Irish governments response to the continuous massacre of Gaza

There was a massacre at the Kibbutz also. Justified condemnation of the current events should not start with a false minimisation of that atrocity.

Keep your self righteous rhetoric for someone that endorses what happened on oct 7th. It certainly isn't me but because of the strange circumstances of the reports it's very hard to assess the extent of what Hamas did and how they managed to evade a well  oiled high tec intelligence/security machine. The original narrative was in respect to the Irish Tánaiste cohorting  with one of the biggest butchers of the 21st century. No one was trying to minimize what Hamas done.

[seafoid]

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0215/1432403-unrwa-lazzarin-martin/

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0214/1432222-taoiseach-gaza/

[Itchy]

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0215/1432403-unrwa-lazzarin-martin/

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0214/1432222-taoiseach-gaza/

I can sense a massive shift and Micheal Martin will write a 2nd letter and in this one he will call Nethanyahu a bold boy while condemning the events of Oct 7th and the murderous rampage of Hamas

[seafoid]

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0215/1432403-unrwa-lazzarin-martin/

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0214/1432222-taoiseach-gaza/

I can sense a massive shift and Micheal Martin will write a 2nd letter and in this one he will call Nethanyahu a bold boy while condemning the events of Oct 7th and the murderous rampage of Hamas

Let's see what happens. Politics moves slowly but gets there in the end

[Itchy]

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0215/1432403-unrwa-lazzarin-martin/

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0214/1432222-taoiseach-gaza/

I can sense a massive shift and Micheal Martin will write a 2nd letter and in this one he will call Nethanyahu a bold boy while condemning the events of Oct 7th and the murderous rampage of Hamas

Let's see what happens. Politics moves slowly but gets there in the end

What do you think will come 1st - the slaughter of Palestinian Civilians or a equitable settlement in Palestine - at the current pace of operation. Bear in mind one side has zero interest in compromise and is armed to the teeth. There needs to be a massive speed up and the best way to do this is for countries to start breaking ranks with the EU & Yanks in a big way (not letter writing).

1- Expel the Israel Ambassador from Dublin
2- Boycott Israel for all sports involving Ireland, Eurovision and whatever else
3- Government boycott of Israeli goods and prevent Irish companies dealing with them
4- If the politicians must go to the US for St Patricks day, call for a ceasefire while there in a public way
5- Actively declare support at the ICJ for South Africa's case and get off the f**king fence.

That would speed things up a bit. And yes it would annoy some EU/Yank politicians and yes it would harm Leo/Micheals future cushy jobs in the EU. But its the right thing to do. They should try it, they might actually feel a bit better about themselves as human beings.

[seafoid]

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0215/1432403-unrwa-lazzarin-martin/

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0214/1432222-taoiseach-gaza/

I can sense a massive shift and Micheal Martin will write a 2nd letter and in this one he will call Nethanyahu a bold boy while condemning the events of Oct 7th and the murderous rampage of Hamas

Let's see what happens. Politics moves slowly but gets there in the end

What do you think will come 1st - the slaughter of Palestinian Civilians or a equitable settlement in Palestine - at the current pace of operation. Bear in mind one side has zero interest in compromise and is armed to the teeth. There needs to be a massive speed up and the best way to do this is for countries to start breaking ranks with the EU & Yanks in a big way (not letter writing).

1- Expel the Israel Ambassador from Dublin
2- Boycott Israel for all sports involving Ireland, Eurovision and whatever else
3- Government boycott of Israeli goods and prevent Irish companies dealing with them
4- If the politicians must go to the US for St Patricks day, call for a ceasefire while there in a public way
5- Actively declare support at the ICJ for South Africa's case and get off the f**king fence.

That would speed things up a bit. And yes it would annoy some EU/Yank politicians and yes it would harm Leo/Micheals future cushy jobs in the EU. But its the right thing to do. They should try it, they might actually feel a bit better about themselves as human beings.

I agree with all 5 . The ambassador is a sc**bag

Meanwhile

https://twitter.com/MelechThomas/status/1757975009916514707

[Rossfan]

More War Crimes

https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-41333062.html