The future of laois hurling

[Hurling123]

Lads it a dreadful when so called Laois Gaels come on here to run down there own

Tells alot about the issue in the county.
Get off the keyboards and into coaching In the fields

Just got the fixtures for the arawbawn attaching them later for the craic.

As you can clearly see it's Galway 1 against laois

[clonadmad]

Lads it a dreadful when so called Laois Gaels come on here to run down there own

Tells alot about the issue in the county.
Get off the keyboards and into coaching In the fields

Just got the fixtures for the arawbawn attaching them later for the craic.

As you can clearly see it's Galway 1 against laois

2 posts in and you slating lads that have and are involved with their clubs and have made valuable contributions here online to try and address issues

If you are such a man in the know

Maybe you can tell us why the best hurler in the county at his age grade from Castletown has walked from this set up ?

Answer that and I'll have a few more questions for you

[Hurling123]

   Arrabawn B QF   

   Galway 1 v Laois   
   Galway 2 v Dublin 2   
   Dublin 1 v Tipperary 2   O'Toole Park Crumlin
   Kilkenny 2 v Offaly 1   
      
  i dont think you understand what is need in Laois Hurling . keyboard warriors are not the answer . putting half truths out to there thinking this is a answer is dreaming .sorry in my late reply i am just back from coaching two hurling sessions to juveniles. i was involved with this current team but had to leave due to time commitments . the player you speak of was never even in the top 5 while i was there just like other members of his family he decided Laois was not what he wanted . he wasn't begged back as why should he be ?? the management moved on and built a stronger team . he certainty wasn't a team player .

my interest in the future of Laois Hurling. just seen this some time ago and it drives me mad when people put half untruths up to suit there agenda ??  this team(the first team) yes have lost to limerick and dublin in challenge game but gone on to beat limerick in limerick and galway in galway,destory antrim in antrim although i am not involved i still keep a keen eye on this squad . there second team are not bad hurlers but find it hard to string win together , you should really contact Shane keegan because i know this management panel are always looking for help to drive thing on

[Giovanni]

   Arrabawn B QF   

   Galway 1 v Laois   
   Galway 2 v Dublin 2   
   Dublin 1 v Tipperary 2   O'Toole Park Crumlin
   Kilkenny 2 v Offaly 1   
      
  i dont think you understand what is need in Laois Hurling . keyboard warriors are not the answer . putting half truths out to there thinking this is a answer is dreaming .sorry in my late reply i am just back from coaching two hurling sessions to juveniles. i was involved with this current team but had to leave due to time commitments . the player you speak of was never even in the top 5 while i was there just like other members of his family he decided Laois was not what he wanted . he wasn't begged back as why should he be ?? the management moved on and built a stronger team . he certainty wasn't a team player .

my interest in the future of Laois Hurling. just seen this some time ago and it drives me mad when people put half untruths up to suit there agenda ??  this team(the first team) yes have lost to limerick and dublin in challenge game but gone on to beat limerick in limerick and galway in galway,destory antrim in antrim although i am not involved i still keep a keen eye on this squad . there second team are not bad hurlers but find it hard to string win together , you should really contact Shane keegan because i know this management panel are always looking for help to drive thing on

Was listening to Eamonn O Shea the other night about trying to create the idea that the county team should be elite at all levels and the players should feel it. While I applaud people like yourself for the time you are putting in, the post above doesn't seem like an elite way of managing young players (and I'm saying this without knowing any of the details or the people involved).

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   Arrabawn B QF   

   Galway 1 v Laois   
   Galway 2 v Dublin 2   
   Dublin 1 v Tipperary 2   O'Toole Park Crumlin
   Kilkenny 2 v Offaly 1   
      
  i dont think you understand what is need in Laois Hurling . keyboard warriors are not the answer . putting half truths out to there thinking this is a answer is dreaming .sorry in my late reply i am just back from coaching two hurling sessions to juveniles. i was involved with this current team but had to leave due to time commitments . the player you speak of was never even in the top 5 while i was there just like other members of his family he decided Laois was not what he wanted . he wasn't begged back as why should he be ?? the management moved on and built a stronger team . he certainty wasn't a team player .

my interest in the future of Laois Hurling. just seen this some time ago and it drives me mad when people put half untruths up to suit there agenda ??  this team(the first team) yes have lost to limerick and dublin in challenge game but gone on to beat limerick in limerick and galway in galway,destory antrim in antrim although i am not involved i still keep a keen eye on this squad . there second team are not bad hurlers but find it hard to string win together , you should really contact Shane keegan because i know this management panel are always looking for help to drive thing on

Expressing doubt over the reality of a result is not being negative. I am not a keyboard warrior and I seldom have a personal go at anyone on here. Also, I purposely stated I wasn't being negative, I was just curious as to how our lads could beat Galway's best team. Galway won their section of the Tony Forristal last year while Laois got nowhere in the B and suffered such results in some games as to cause an outcry here (rightly).
For example. I was in the COE when this squad played Kilkenny last year. Kilkenny absolutely riddled our lads and as the game went on they simply couldn't weaken their team anymore. All the subs were put on and corner backs plus the goalie put in the forwards, everything, but still no let up in the one way traffic. It was embarrassing and I felt sorry for the young lads.  I subsequently found out that this was a Kilkenny B trial team who had a number of players on the day who didn't even make their B squad. Earlier that year in one of the Leinster blitzes, Kilkenny and Galway played each other with both counties having 3 even teams, 72 players each. Both teams played 2 games (6 games in total). Both counties won 2 games with 2 being drawn. That would suggest to me that Galway and Kilkenny are very evenly matched. Hence my suspicion.
Just because a team is named as Galway 1 doesn't mean it's their A team.
I'd be pretty certain that our U15s are nowhere near the level of Galway. We'll wait for the next couple of minor championships to prove that. I hope I'm wrong.

[clonadmad]

   Arrabawn B QF   

   Galway 1 v Laois   
   Galway 2 v Dublin 2   
   Dublin 1 v Tipperary 2   O'Toole Park Crumlin
   Kilkenny 2 v Offaly 1   
      
  i dont think you understand what is need in Laois Hurling . keyboard warriors are not the answer . putting half truths out to there thinking this is a answer is dreaming .sorry in my late reply i am just back from coaching two hurling sessions to juveniles. i was involved with this current team but had to leave due to time commitments . the player you speak of was never even in the top 5 while i was there just like other members of his family he decided Laois was not what he wanted . he wasn't begged back as why should he be ?? the management moved on and built a stronger team . he certainty wasn't a team player .

my interest in the future of Laois Hurling. just seen this some time ago and it drives me mad when people put half untruths up to suit there agenda ??  this team(the first team) yes have lost to limerick and dublin in challenge game but gone on to beat limerick in limerick and galway in galway,destory antrim in antrim although i am not involved i still keep a keen eye on this squad . there second team are not bad hurlers but find it hard to string win together , you should really contact Shane keegan because i know this management panel are always looking for help to drive thing on

Expressing doubt over the reality of a result is not being negative. I am not a keyboard warrior and I seldom have a personal go at anyone on here. Also, I purposely stated I wasn't being negative, I was just curious as to how our lads could beat Galway's best team. Galway won their section of the Tony Forristal last year while Laois got nowhere in the B and suffered such results in some games as to cause an outcry here (rightly).
For example. I was in the COE when this squad played Kilkenny last year. Kilkenny absolutely riddled our lads and as the game went on they simply couldn't weaken their team anymore. All the subs were put on and corner backs plus the goalie put in the forwards, everything, but still no let up in the one way traffic. It was embarrassing and I felt sorry for the young lads.  I subsequently found out that this was a Kilkenny B trial team who had a number of players on the day who didn't even make their B squad. Earlier that year in one of the Leinster blitzes, Kilkenny and Galway played each other with both counties having 3 even teams, 72 players each. Both teams played 2 games (6 games in total). Both counties won 2 games with 2 being drawn. That would suggest to me that Galway and Kilkenny are very evenly matched. Hence my suspicion.
Just because a team is named as Galway 1 doesn't mean it's their A team.
I'd be pretty certain that our U15s are nowhere near the level of Galway. We'll wait for the next couple of minor championships to prove that. I hope I'm wrong.

Excellent informed Post

Lads coming on here telling us it's all rosey in the garden when it so patently isn't and most of us involved also at the coal face of Juvenile Hurling and Football

We won't have to wait for the minor championship

The Arrabawn Competition is on in Tipperary on the 26th of August this Year

24 teams involved

[Giovanni]

Maybe I'm getting my wires crossed but didn't someone on here say not long ago that we have a very talented bunch of u-15s this year?

[Hurling123]

Look your opinion of this team has been so negative from your first post.
For such an informed man you clearly leave out so much information
You talk of this team at last year level . this team started out last year as 4 divisional teams .
They played other county teams while in this format
The  team reached the semi final of the Tony forrisal after beating cork and Wexford in Waterford lost to Tipperary who I believe won the competition out.
My point is if you have all the information why not put that up the positive aspects,.your comments are all so negative.
As I said my agenda is for development of this team and other underage teams in the county.i know that the management team are really struggling to get people to help out with mid week sessions. They train from 11 until 1.30 in the Coe on Tuesday. They also train every Saturday morning.
I will certainly try and make it down to Tipperary to support the lads.

[clonadmad]

Look your opinion of this team has been so negative from your first post.
For such an informed man you clearly leave out so much information
You talk of this team at last year level . this team started out last year as 4 divisional teams .
They played other county teams while in this format
The  team reached the semi final of the Tony forrisal after beating cork and Wexford in Waterford lost to Tipperary who I believe won the competition out.
My point is if you have all the information why not put that up the positive aspects,.your comments are all so negative.
As I said my agenda is for development of this team and other underage teams in the county.i know that the management team are really struggling to get people to help out with mid week sessions. They train from 11 until 1.30 in the Coe on Tuesday. They also train every Saturday morning.
I will certainly try and make it down to Tipperary to support the lads.

I suspected you were a bluffer but you've convinced me now

Laois weren't good enough to play in the Tony Forristal last year

Tipp beat Waterford 2 in 1 semi and Kilkenny beat Waterford 1 in the other

Tipp beat KK in the Final

The Forristal Shield Final was between Wexford and Cork which Wexford Won.

Laois played in the Sonny Walsh which is for the next 16 teams in the Country

Results here

Were

Laois 1 0-07 Tipperary 3 12-08

Laois 2 2-10 Tipperary 2 7-15

Wexford 2 3-11 Laois 2 2-08

Kerry won the Walsh Shield

Cork won the Walsh Cup



Trials were based on 4 divisional teams which were shambolic in their organization and they were whittled down to 40 odd lads

[SpeculativeEffort]

Reading this thread with interest as I genuinely care about the state of Laois hurling. Often I read two people disagreeing on forums and I can cobble together the gist of the overall story as people will have share a common thread on details, facts, information (without actually agreeing).
However I have NEVER seen posters post such diametrically opposite details with both adamant they are correct. Can anyone corroborate either reports of results in Tony Forristal etc. ??

[Hurling123]

My friend as I have already said laois played as divisional teams for a period last year so that was laois east,west , north,and South these teams played in the games approaching Tony forstell.
So laois played in the Sony Walsh.
Wexford played laois in the first game ls 5-11 wx 1.7

I have the team sheet here.i was there with the team . The email address for that laois team Is laoishurlingteam@gmail.com
If anyone wants to make contact I am sure the bluffer will be soon seen
I have and will continue to say that management need help if you are so good and knowledgeable why don't you help.

[Hurling123]

Ah now I see what you are looking at laois second team results
Why don't you put laois first team results . ?
As i continue to say after the phase of 4 regional team laois split into two teams and continued in that format right up to now.
So you seem to giving the results and scores of the second team
I was with the first team in my time there.
Now I am done having pointless discussions its certainly not going t bring anything to this team or laois hurling

[clonadmad]

Reading this thread with interest as I genuinely care about the state of Laois hurling. Often I read two people disagreeing on forums and I can cobble together the gist of the overall story as people will have share a common thread on details, facts, information (without actually agreeing).
However I have NEVER seen posters post such diametrically opposite details with both adamant they are correct. Can anyone corroborate either reports of results in Tony Forristal etc. ??

The Poster made the following comment

" The  team reached the semi final of the Tony forrisal after beating cork and Wexford in Waterford lost to Tipperary who I believe won the competition out."

You can verify whether he told the truth or not here

Tony Forristal and Sonny Walsh Results 2022 results available below


https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563643591699836928?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563651881267863552?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

[SpeculativeEffort]

Reading this thread with interest as I genuinely care about the state of Laois hurling. Often I read two people disagreeing on forums and I can cobble together the gist of the overall story as people will have share a common thread on details, facts, information (without actually agreeing).
However I have NEVER seen posters post such diametrically opposite details with both adamant they are correct. Can anyone corroborate either reports of results in Tony Forristal etc. ??

The Poster made the following comment

" The  team reached the semi final of the Tony forrisal after beating cork and Wexford in Waterford lost to Tipperary who I believe won the competition out."

You can verify whether he told the truth or not here

Tony Forristal and Sonny Walsh Results 2022 results available below


https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563643591699836928?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563651881267863552?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

Thanks. Some questions on the structure of the current Forristal/Walsh Tournament.

My understanding is Forristal Cup is top, Forristal Shield is next and then Sonny Walsh tier 3. Why (in the results) are Wexford 2 in the Forristal Shield but Wexford 1 in the Sonny Walsh competition? I also see a Tipp 1 and 2 in the Sonny Walsh. Theres also a Tipp 1 in the Forristal.  Are they different teams? Should it read Tipp 1 in Forr and Tipp 2+3 in Sonny Walsh.

It just makes for unclear reading.

[Hurling123]

Glad to clarify.
What went up on twitter was incorrect due to games had to be changed due to the death of Dylan quirke. As I said I was there what was put up on twitter was incorrect Tipperary and Wexford were in laois team one group. Hope that clear any confusion.