Down Club Hurling & Football

[befair]

Should have won it; 3 pts up and missed a series of easy scores. Once Johnson got the red card we totally folded, and acting like babies at the end of the game reflected the general lack of discipline

[Sheedy]

Disappointing night, Down were in control and looked to have the match won but unfortunately the lads just seemed to be running on empty for the last 10/15 mins. The extra time win over monaghan clearly still in the legs in the heavy conditions.
We probably should have been further ahead but for some poor misses and shot selection. Hopefully still a big future ahead in the Down jersey for some of these young fellas.

Seriously??? The team beat Fermanagh, Cavan and Monaghan on route to an Ulster title.. meanwhile the big hitters Donegal, Tyrone, Derry were all in the other side of the draw Batein lumps outta each other.. still in the legs after extra time - every dog on the street knows they have been training since January in the parks around the county. Legs shudnt be a problem in their 4th game of a campaign...

I think tonight we were found out on the pitch and on the line. Some of the substitutions made were baffling - mccusker and Clarke offer zero off the bench IMO but club blood runs thicker than county water... our discipline was appalling in the tackle and shot selection was poor too..
unfortunately a number of these lads will probably be rushed thru to senior now and in all fairness probably only 3/4 of them are fit for it.

interesting the couple of fellas you named out of the entire panel are from a certain club, think it's clear you have an agenda. Last week's match was both mentally and physically exhausting and clearly had an impact in last 10 minutes.
Knock yourself with the negativity if it makes you feel better.

[Sheedy]

Should have won it; 3 pts up and missed a series of easy scores. Once Johnson got the red card we totally folded, and acting like babies at the end of the game reflected the general lack of discipline

Should have won it; 3 pts up and missed a series of easy scores. Once Johnson got the red card we totally folded, and acting like babies at the end of the game reflected the general lack of discipline

the match was already going against us before Johnsons red card. General lack of discipline?? Acting like babies? They're young fellas who were frustrated the result was going against them, go to any underage match in the county where there's something on the line and you'll see a lot worse.

[redandblackareback]

Disappointing night, Down were in control and looked to have the match won but unfortunately the lads just seemed to be running on empty for the last 10/15 mins. The extra time win over monaghan clearly still in the legs in the heavy conditions.
We probably should have been further ahead but for some poor misses and shot selection. Hopefully still a big future ahead in the Down jersey for some of these young fellas.

Seriously??? The team beat Fermanagh, Cavan and Monaghan on route to an Ulster title.. meanwhile the big hitters Donegal, Tyrone, Derry were all in the other side of the draw Batein lumps outta each other.. still in the legs after extra time - every dog on the street knows they have been training since January in the parks around the county. Legs shudnt be a problem in their 4th game of a campaign...

I think tonight we were found out on the pitch and on the line. Some of the substitutions made were baffling - mccusker and Clarke offer zero off the bench IMO but club blood runs thicker than county water... our discipline was appalling in the tackle and shot selection was poor too..
unfortunately a number of these lads will probably be rushed thru to senior now and in all fairness probably only 3/4 of them are fit for it.

interesting the couple of fellas you named out of the entire panel are from a certain club, think it's clear you have an agenda. Last week's match was both mentally and physically exhausting and clearly had an impact in last 10 minutes.
Knock yourself with the negativity if it makes you feel better.

No agenda needed against any club, you only have to look at the captain and the KK blinkers that ultimately cost him the down job but if rumours are to believed our first choice has turned it down, hope it doesn't make the press and turn this into a chaos as before.

[Sheedy]

Disappointing night, Down were in control and looked to have the match won but unfortunately the lads just seemed to be running on empty for the last 10/15 mins. The extra time win over monaghan clearly still in the legs in the heavy conditions.
We probably should have been further ahead but for some poor misses and shot selection. Hopefully still a big future ahead in the Down jersey for some of these young fellas.

Seriously??? The team beat Fermanagh, Cavan and Monaghan on route to an Ulster title.. meanwhile the big hitters Donegal, Tyrone, Derry were all in the other side of the draw Batein lumps outta each other.. still in the legs after extra time - every dog on the street knows they have been training since January in the parks around the county. Legs shudnt be a problem in their 4th game of a campaign...

I think tonight we were found out on the pitch and on the line. Some of the substitutions made were baffling - mccusker and Clarke offer zero off the bench IMO but club blood runs thicker than county water... our discipline was appalling in the tackle and shot selection was poor too..
unfortunately a number of these lads will probably be rushed thru to senior now and in all fairness probably only 3/4 of them are fit for it.

interesting the couple of fellas you named out of the entire panel are from a certain club, think it's clear you have an agenda. Last week's match was both mentally and physically exhausting and clearly had an impact in last 10 minutes.
Knock yourself with the negativity if it makes you feel better.

No agenda needed against any club, you only have to look at the captain and the KK blinkers that ultimately cost him the down job but if rumours are to believed our first choice has turned it down, hope it doesn't make the press and turn this into a chaos as before.

no agenda against any club but....
Down u20s won an Ulster title, something which many Down underage teams have failed to do over last 20 years but as soon as they're beat people queue up to have a go against manager and certain players, pathetic.

[SuperRed]

Should have won it; 3 pts up and missed a series of easy scores. Once Johnson got the red card we totally folded, and acting like babies at the end of the game reflected the general lack of discipline

Should have won it; 3 pts up and missed a series of easy scores. Once Johnson got the red card we totally folded, and acting like babies at the end of the game reflected the general lack of discipline

the match was already going against us before Johnsons red card. General lack of discipline?? Acting like babies? They're young fellas who were frustrated the result was going against them, go to any underage match in the county where there's something on the line and you'll see a lot worse.

Would tend to agree with the above... It's something that happens in games of the nature. Sides are later to the challenge and momentum carries men on the up into the ball... Frustration grows and the time ebbs away - and then a bit of petulance. Not wanted in the game, but will never really see an end to it. Pride, frustration and a scent of defeat is a very potent tonic.

With six minutes of added time, I felt we could have been a little more patient and worked a score at a time where we were maybe a point adrift but Roscommon had their tails up and it wasn't to be. Be good to see these lads progress with their clubs over the next couple of months and keep the progession moving.

[snoopdog]

The bitterness on here from certain posters is ridiculous. Down were gone in that last 12 to 15 mins. Poor shot selection prob cost us. Roscommon dug in and kept plugging away and got the reward. We gifted them a few scores to keep them in touch at times and the goal they ran through Down. But the big failing was not popping the ball over the bar from scoreable positions, something a Tyrone or Kerry wouldve done. And same failing nearly cost them in the Ulster Final. Slagging off the opposition that Doen played in Ulster is Laughable. I think that Monaghan team won an ulster minor. The positive surges forward were great to see, no cross field and passing back that the seniors constantly do. There are a lot of good players there that experience and maturity will advance them. They will be gutted. I wonder how many will be around for U20 again next year. I wouldnt be rushing them into a senior set up just yet. And I'd keep the management as is with the U20s.

[snoopdog]

Disappointing night, Down were in control and looked to have the match won but unfortunately the lads just seemed to be running on empty for the last 10/15 mins. The extra time win over monaghan clearly still in the legs in the heavy conditions.
We probably should have been further ahead but for some poor misses and shot selection. Hopefully still a big future ahead in the Down jersey for some of these young fellas.

Seriously??? The team beat Fermanagh, Cavan and Monaghan on route to an Ulster title.. meanwhile the big hitters Donegal, Tyrone, Derry were all in the other side of the draw Batein lumps outta each other.. still in the legs after extra time - every dog on the street knows they have been training since January in the parks around the county. Legs shudnt be a problem in their 4th game of a campaign...

I think tonight we were found out on the pitch and on the line. Some of the substitutions made were baffling - mccusker and Clarke offer zero off the bench IMO but club blood runs thicker than county water... our discipline was appalling in the tackle and shot selection was poor too..
unfortunately a number of these lads will probably be rushed thru to senior now and in all fairness probably only 3/4 of them are fit for it.

interesting the couple of fellas you named out of the entire panel are from a certain club, think it's clear you have an agenda. Last week's match was both mentally and physically exhausting and clearly had an impact in last 10 minutes.
Knock yourself with the negativity if it makes you feel better.

No agenda needed against any club, you only have to look at the captain and the KK blinkers that ultimately cost him the down job but if rumours are to believed our first choice has turned it down, hope it doesn't make the press and turn this into a chaos as before.

What do you mean from the above? What cost who the Down job? And who was the 1st choice as new senior manager??

[Smurfy123]

A great campaign
Unlucky in defeat last night
Now appoint this management team for the senior post

[thewobbler]

That was so disappointing.

People seems to be focused on the last 10 minutes, but that's not where the game was lost. With that breeze we needed to post a bigger margin by half time. Our forwards kicked us out of it, all of them in turn, and with the benefit of hindsight there could be an argument that the forwards were all too similar in style - and putting a couple of workhorses in instead might have favourably changed the onus of the forward line. Football is much easier in hindsight to be fair.

Roscommon were really quite tidy. Very quick and very well organised at the back.

Our first Ulster championship team at any level since forever though. Let's hope we are finally pointing in the right direction again.

[SuperRed]

A great campaign
Unlucky in defeat last night
Now appoint this management team for the senior post

Conor Laverty will no doubt manage Down in the future, if he wants it - I would maybe give him another year or two at U20s... unless there is noone else that can viably manage the senior side with experience and vision.

[snoopdog]

Would a transition in the senior for Laverty with say a Pete McGrath type be an option while also staying in charge of U20s? Prob too much as he is also in charge of GAA at trinity and still plays for kilcoo. Incidentally he may take the kilcoo job before Down seniors.

[Cuan12]

Win with humility lose with dignity, bit of a shambolic ending to a game we should have won , some poor decisions taken in front of goal but there were a lot of positives, management should be asked to stay for a couple of seasons , something similar for u17 s and we just might develop a senior team capable of competing for silverware, congrats to management and team.

[Dubh driocht]

Yep it was bitterly disappointing after the highs of the Athletic Grounds. Both players and management will know that game was there for the taking. We panicked too soon but hopefully will learn from it; my only criticism is that we don't need the theatrical protestations of innocence when both red cards were clear. If you give it out you've got to take it; That's one cynical importation from other counties we can do without.

Anyway, good to have an Ulster title for the first time in 12 years and well done to all the players and management for a serious commitment of time and effort.

[befair]

Great to have an Ulster title, but the petulance at the end really let us down; these lads will encounter many disappointments in life, and losing a football match will be the least of these. It also sets a bad example to younger players.