Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[youhavenofans]

U20 Team v Monaghan:

1. Benny Gallen;Aghyaran
2. Antoin Cox, Loughmacrory
3. Connor Quinn, Galbally
4. Peadar Mullan; Tattyreagh
5. Conal Grimes, Loughmacrory
6. Ryan McCusker, Dromore
7. Cahir Goodwin; Dromore
8. Ruairi Gormley, Strabane
9. Brian Kennedy; Derrylaughan
10. Conor Shields, Clogher
11. Emmett McNabb, Dromore
12. Ryan Gray; Trillick
13. Tiarnan Drayne, Donaghmore
14. Mattie McGleenan, Eglish
15. Paul Donaghy, Edendork

No canavan, is he on the squad. And no peter og

Canavan still a minor, so as far as I know I don't think he's able to play.

Same age as Antoin Fox at corner back. Think he left the panel, heard because he was playing to much football.

He could be the same age, but Canavan has an extra year at minor. There's a rule of some kind that they can't play for the u20's while they're still minors.

Canavan and Fox are the same age, don't think he even made the panel at the start, had a broken thumb for a while after Christmas. Also Matthew Murnaghan came out of that un17 team and in the un20 squad.

Peter Og came back and done his other hamstring last week. Also can't see Brian Kennedy playing as he also pulled up with hamstring in friendly against Galway last week.

[WT4E]

4 days on from the game - is it out of the question to call for some balanced thinking? I think we are all disappointed with the result but, all things considered, the game was won by Monaghan in the last ten minutes and we entered this period without Colm Cavanagh, Tiernan McCann, Lee Brennan and Mark Bradley on the field, whereas Monaghan had they full compliment on at this stage (after bringing on McCarthy and Walshe). This was arguably the difference as a fit Colm Cav could have made the difference at midfield where we really struggled.

Also, we were level with Monaghan after 65 minutes despite injuries to the above players and with barely any of our other players playing to their full potential. I still feel that on any given day if we play well we are capable of beating any team in Ireland, possibly excluding the Dubs. So, going forward, with the right draw I feel we can reach the All Ireland final which would obviously be progress from last year and all anyone can ask for.

Finally, looking at positives coming out of the defeat, playing in the Qualifiers may give some of our less experienced men room to breathe and play their way into form in a less pressurised environment whilst getting experience at inter-county level. I'm thinking of the likes of Brennan, McClure, McShane, McKernan. With a few games under their belt i think these guys could gain momentum and really become key players as the year goes on.

With that in mind I would home we get an easy enough draw (a Division 3 team for example) in the first round and gradually face better teams as we progress. Although I think we could beat Mayo if we drew them.

I admire your positivity, but this team will not reach an All Ireland final. The legs will be gone by the time the Super 8s / Quarters finish. It's too much of an ask for a team that looked laboured in their opener v Monaghan to now win maybe 7/8 in a row with limited rest.

Anyone thing regular games might help a team rather than hinder them - games get/keep players sharp.

That would depend on the opposition and beating them to get the extra matches. Not playing challenge matches could be catching up.

If we can avoid Mayo in R1 I'd be confident we would make it to super 8 decider - is it round 4?

[GaelTheGael]

U20 Team v Monaghan:

1. Benny Gallen;Aghyaran
2. Antoin Cox, Loughmacrory
3. Connor Quinn, Galbally
4. Peadar Mullan; Tattyreagh
5. Conal Grimes, Loughmacrory
6. Ryan McCusker, Dromore
7. Cahir Goodwin; Dromore
8. Ruairi Gormley, Strabane
9. Brian Kennedy; Derrylaughan
10. Conor Shields, Clogher
11. Emmett McNabb, Dromore
12. Ryan Gray; Trillick
13. Tiarnan Drayne, Donaghmore
14. Mattie McGleenan, Eglish
15. Paul Donaghy, Edendork

No canavan, is he on the squad. And no peter og

Canavan still a minor, so as far as I know I don't think he's able to play.

Same age as Antoin Fox at corner back. Think he left the panel, heard because he was playing to much football.

He could be the same age, but Canavan has an extra year at minor. There's a rule of some kind that they can't play for the u20's while they're still minors.

Canavan and Fox are the same age, don't think he even made the panel at the start, had a broken thumb for a while after Christmas. Also Matthew Murnaghan came out of that un17 team and in the un20 squad.

Peter Og came back and done his other hamstring last week. Also can't see Brian Kennedy playing as he also pulled up with hamstring in friendly against Galway last week.

Emmet McNabb also carrying an injury.
As we seen with the seniors Sunday past how carrying an injury affects performance and i dont see enough quality elsewhere on that team to trouble Monaghan if McCartan, McNabb and Kennedy are carrying injuries.

[The Golden Years]

U20 Team v Monaghan:

1. Benny Gallen;Aghyaran
2. Antoin Cox, Loughmacrory
3. Connor Quinn, Galbally
4. Peadar Mullan; Tattyreagh
5. Conal Grimes, Loughmacrory
6. Ryan McCusker, Dromore
7. Cahir Goodwin; Dromore
8. Ruairi Gormley, Strabane
9. Brian Kennedy; Derrylaughan
10. Conor Shields, Clogher
11. Emmett McNabb, Dromore
12. Ryan Gray; Trillick
13. Tiarnan Drayne, Donaghmore
14. Mattie McGleenan, Eglish
15. Paul Donaghy, Edendork

Quite a few names i have never heard of here.  Who would the main players be?  A bit  surprised no Carrickmore players on considering the won the minor double for this particular group of players.

[TabClear]

U20 Team v Monaghan:

1. Benny Gallen;Aghyaran
2. Antoin Cox, Loughmacrory
3. Connor Quinn, Galbally
4. Peadar Mullan; Tattyreagh
5. Conal Grimes, Loughmacrory
6. Ryan McCusker, Dromore
7. Cahir Goodwin; Dromore
8. Ruairi Gormley, Strabane
9. Brian Kennedy; Derrylaughan
10. Conor Shields, Clogher
11. Emmett McNabb, Dromore
12. Ryan Gray; Trillick
13. Tiarnan Drayne, Donaghmore
14. Mattie McGleenan, Eglish
15. Paul Donaghy, Edendork

No canavan, is he on the squad. And no peter og

Canavan still a minor, so as far as I know I don't think he's able to play.

Same age as Antoin Fox at corner back. Think he left the panel, heard because he was playing to much football.

He could be the same age, but Canavan has an extra year at minor. There's a rule of some kind that they can't play for the u20's while they're still minors.

Canavan and Fox are the same age, don't think he even made the panel at the start, had a broken thumb for a while after Christmas. Also Matthew Murnaghan came out of that un17 team and in the un20 squad.

Peter Og came back and done his other hamstring last week. Also can't see Brian Kennedy playing as he also pulled up with hamstring in friendly against Galway last week.

Are hamstring injuries getting more common? Seems to be a lot happening lately both at club and county level lately. Its an injury that seems much more common in GAA than other sports like soccer/rugby etc. I would have thought that with the level of training and conditioning at all levels now these type of injuries would be reducing but it does not seem to be the case.

I remember my Dad telling me  "we didnt have hamstrings in my day"

[barelegs]

U20 Team v Monaghan:

1. Benny Gallen;Aghyaran
2. Antoin Cox, Loughmacrory
3. Connor Quinn, Galbally
4. Peadar Mullan; Tattyreagh
5. Conal Grimes, Loughmacrory
6. Ryan McCusker, Dromore
7. Cahir Goodwin; Dromore
8. Ruairi Gormley, Strabane
9. Brian Kennedy; Derrylaughan
10. Conor Shields, Clogher
11. Emmett McNabb, Dromore
12. Ryan Gray; Trillick
13. Tiarnan Drayne, Donaghmore
14. Mattie McGleenan, Eglish
15. Paul Donaghy, Edendork

Quite a few names i have never heard of here.  Who would the main players be?  A bit  surprised no Carrickmore players on considering the won the minor double for this particular group of players.

Well to quote Dermot Carlin who is part of the management team from an interview he did with Paddy Hunter on for the Ulster Herald the players he mentioned in order were Kennedy, Donaghy, Quinn, Gallen and McNabb.

The only one I haven't seen play this year was Donaghy. What I've seen of the others they looked the part playing senior football with their clubs.

If they can get over tonight they'll not be too far away when silverware is handed out

[Tyrone Gaa]

Tyrone got off to a shocker tonight conceding 2 1st half goals but bosses the 2nd half, young Donaghmore lad Drayne impressed of the bench although he probably should of finished a late goal chance. Armagh next. Hopefully we can push on. Well done boys!!

[omagh_gael]

Couldn't get to it but seen on Twitter that they'd 7 wides in first 22 mins as well! Great turnaround.

[GetOverTheBar]

U20 Team v Monaghan:

1. Benny Gallen;Aghyaran
2. Antoin Cox, Loughmacrory
3. Connor Quinn, Galbally
4. Peadar Mullan; Tattyreagh
5. Conal Grimes, Loughmacrory
6. Ryan McCusker, Dromore
7. Cahir Goodwin; Dromore
8. Ruairi Gormley, Strabane
9. Brian Kennedy; Derrylaughan
10. Conor Shields, Clogher
11. Emmett McNabb, Dromore
12. Ryan Gray; Trillick
13. Tiarnan Drayne, Donaghmore
14. Mattie McGleenan, Eglish
15. Paul Donaghy, Edendork

No canavan, is he on the squad. And no peter og

Canavan still a minor, so as far as I know I don't think he's able to play.

Same age as Antoin Fox at corner back. Think he left the panel, heard because he was playing to much football.

He could be the same age, but Canavan has an extra year at minor. There's a rule of some kind that they can't play for the u20's while they're still minors.

Canavan and Fox are the same age, don't think he even made the panel at the start, had a broken thumb for a while after Christmas. Also Matthew Murnaghan came out of that un17 team and in the un20 squad.

Peter Og came back and done his other hamstring last week. Also can't see Brian Kennedy playing as he also pulled up with hamstring in friendly against Galway last week.

Are hamstring injuries getting more common? Seems to be a lot happening lately both at club and county level lately. Its an injury that seems much more common in GAA than other sports like soccer/rugby etc. I would have thought that with the level of training and conditioning at all levels now these type of injuries would be reducing but it does not seem to be the case.

I remember my Dad telling me  "we didnt have hamstrings in my day"

Wouldn't say they are more common, however athletes are getting more powerful at every level. GAA has a major problem, even if I scale it back to my own club, we've a few men with shockingly massive strength which is largely useless for Gaelic Football (these days) and a lot of that contributes to imbalaces that manifest via soft tissue injury.

Anyone can go to their local GAA Club/Gym and be told to squat or deadlift (assuming they are taught correct techniques also), but very few GAA S+C coaches will teach the value of Nordic Curls/Good Mornings etc, these are vital to prevention but not as eye catching as being able to squat over 100kg, admittedly (which is largely also irrelevant for GAA for anyone younger reading this).

Another factor and one nobody really talks about in Ireland is the weather which I think plays a big part in the Hamstring/ACL 'crisis'. We as players don't know what the weather is going to be from one weekend to the next here - hard pitch? Soft pitch? So how can our bodies - take the typical (professional) surfaces of an AFL ground or Premier League pitch - every single one will be pretty much the same, maintained and generally hard to maximise stability. In the GAA we trawl from ground to ground, literally every weekend. Do you know who is accountable for maintaining your home pitch? I don't have a clue. Pitches are left to heal naturally after bad weather and then two days later a herd of 30 men are on them. It's inevitable, the game isn't to blame - it's evolved into semi professionalism at Senior Club level - the facilities are stuck in the 90s (at best). When you play 60 minutes you are breaking your body down for every minute of it (not to be dramatic), injuries are inevitable, add in the shift in power over the last 15 years of the game and that's where we are at now. 21 year olds now can lift more than 35 year olds could back in the 70s/80s.

Went on a rant there.....sorry lads, hopefully it helps someone. Nordic Curls are gods way of preventing H/S issues....

[nrico2006]

Canavan is still a minor? So is he on the u-17 squad?

[redzone]

Canavan is still a minor? So is he on the u-17 squad?

Canavan is still a minor? So is he on the u-17 squad?

For goodness sake he is a minor at club level which is u18 but not at county level which is u17.

[redzone]

Great advice on the Nordic curls,GOTB. If someone could get a prevention from hamstring pulls they would be a millionaire. I think a majority of injurys come the back initially

[redzone]

P.s ruari Gormley from strabane was outstanding last night in the u20 came

[nrico2006]

Canavan is still a minor? So is he on the u-17 squad?

Canavan is still a minor? So is he on the u-17 squad?

For goodness sake he is a minor at club level which is u18 but not at county level which is u17.

So if you are u-18 for club you cant play u-20 for county?

[Norf Tyrone]

P.s ruari Gormley from strabane was outstanding last night in the u20 came

Was going to mention him yesterday as one to watch but never got a chance. Excellent player with a great attitude.