The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

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Main Street

There was some (appears unfounded) speculation that Celtic are interested in a young Chelsea player Dominic Solanke, who in theory if he did move to Celtic,
"Under cross-border rules, Celtic would only need to pay a fraction of the fee English clubs would have to stump up for the England Under-21 international."
"the compensation situation in Scotland means it is a very attractive offer for a young player, his family and agent, to think that you can come out of England and come up to a huge club."


What are these cross border rules that put Celtic at some considerable advantage?

Main Street

Quote from: lenny on May 10, 2017, 07:09:19 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 09, 2017, 11:15:08 PM
Inter should have won that match, much better ball players.

Most players were born within 30 miles of Milan.

Some stats from that 1967 final make interesting reading.
Toatal shots - Celtic 45 Inter 3
Shots on target - Celtic 16 Inter 3
3 of the 29 shots which were off target from Celtic hit the woodwork.
Possession Celtic 64% Inter 36%
Crosses into opposition box Celtic 40 Inter 4.
These stats show just how dominant Celtic were even though the score was only 2.1.
I don't think Mr Boone was that serious.
But it should be said that all but one of that Celtic team were born withing 10 miles of Celtic Park ;D



lenny

Quote from: Main Street on May 10, 2017, 10:08:29 PM
Quote from: lenny on May 10, 2017, 07:09:19 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on May 09, 2017, 11:15:08 PM
Inter should have won that match, much better ball players.

Most players were born within 30 miles of Milan.

Some stats from that 1967 final make interesting reading.
Toatal shots - Celtic 45 Inter 3
Shots on target - Celtic 16 Inter 3
3 of the 29 shots which were off target from Celtic hit the woodwork.
Possession Celtic 64% Inter 36%
Crosses into opposition box Celtic 40 Inter 4.
These stats show just how dominant Celtic were even though the score was only 2.1.
I don't think Mr Boone was that serious.
But it should be said that all but one of that Celtic team were born withing 10 miles of Celtic Park ;D

I was aware he wasn't being serious, I just wanted to post those stats since they make incredible reading. Celtic were just sooo dominant in that game.

illdecide

Quote from: Main Street on May 10, 2017, 10:02:40 PM
There was some (appears unfounded) speculation that Celtic are interested in a young Chelsea player Dominic Solanke, who in theory if he did move to Celtic,
"Under cross-border rules, Celtic would only need to pay a fraction of the fee English clubs would have to stump up for the England Under-21 international."
"the compensation situation in Scotland means it is a very attractive offer for a young player, his family and agent, to think that you can come out of England and come up to a huge club."


What are these cross border rules that put Celtic at some considerable advantage?

Not 100% sure TBH but Celtic will expect to pay around £400k for that lad but if an English team wanted to buy him they'd have to pay £8 million.
I can swim a little but i can't fly an inch

Hectic

Basically if he is to move to another club in the same league structure there would be a tribunal set fee whereas if he moves outwith that jurisdiction it is only a development fee that is due.  Read some comments from Rodgers last night that made me think that it was not happening "He's a big talent and it's unfortunate that he's maybe not going to renew his contract at Chelsea because it's a great club but he obviously deems that his future lies elsewhere.' - before that all signs looked good.

Hectic

Quote from: illdecide on May 10, 2017, 09:25:44 AM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on May 10, 2017, 12:42:44 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on May 09, 2017, 11:33:21 PM
Has Celtic any plans to rebuild the Main Stand to match the other 3

Doubt it unless they've another 10,000 season ticket sales hammering the door down.

Apparently there are a few thousand waiting for season tickets for next season, there are plans to upgrade the old stand to complete the stadium which will have parking for team busses under the new stand as well as a warm up area for players (they say it will add 10,000 to 15,000 to the capacity). My concern for this is filling it, yes there are certain matches where it will be full like Champions League and Sevco games but that's only a fraction of the games but i suppose the few thousand waiting for season tickets will help sell that. Celtic are also hoping if they can pull this off then they can get a few high profile games like Champions League final.
This will all fall into place hopefully with their new Hotel they plan to build as well.

I think Glasgow City Council have put the brakes on the hotel plan.

Hectic

Quote from: Hectic on May 11, 2017, 09:43:52 AM
Basically if he is to move to another club in the same league structure there would be a tribunal set fee whereas if he moves outwith that jurisdiction it is only a development fee that is due.  Read some comments from Rodgers last night that made me think that it was not happening "He's a big talent and it's unfortunate that he's maybe not going to renew his contract at Chelsea because it's a great club but he obviously deems that his future lies elsewhere.' - before that all signs looked good.

Works both ways mind with highly rated Josh Kerr looking like he is on the verge of a move to Brighton under similar terms.

Kickham csc

Quote from: Hectic on May 11, 2017, 10:04:11 AM
Quote from: Hectic on May 11, 2017, 09:43:52 AM
Basically if he is to move to another club in the same league structure there would be a tribunal set fee whereas if he moves outwith that jurisdiction it is only a development fee that is due.  Read some comments from Rodgers last night that made me think that it was not happening "He's a big talent and it's unfortunate that he's maybe not going to renew his contract at Chelsea because it's a great club but he obviously deems that his future lies elsewhere.' - before that all signs looked good.

Works both ways mind with highly rated Josh Kerr looking like he is on the verge of a move to Brighton under similar terms.

In England a fee structure has been established in the academy system if another academy wants to acquire a kid from U-10 up to U-21 I believe.

Basically, the receiving academy compensates the "donor" academy for their time developing the player.

My son is U-13 in a Cat 1 academy. He has spend one year with the academy and is now worth 30k to the club. Next year that will go up to 60-70k

However, if Celtic came in for him, they won't have to pay the fee because they are outside the English academy system

Main Street

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Quote from: Hectic on May 11, 2017, 10:04:11 AM
Quote from: Hectic on May 11, 2017, 09:43:52 AM
Basically if he is to move to another club in the same league structure there would be a tribunal set fee whereas if he moves outwith that jurisdiction it is only a development fee that is due.  Read some comments from Rodgers last night that made me think that it was not happening "He's a big talent and it's unfortunate that he's maybe not going to renew his contract at Chelsea because it's a great club but he obviously deems that his future lies elsewhere.' - before that all signs looked good.

Works both ways mind with highly rated Josh Kerr looking like he is on the verge of a move to Brighton under similar terms.
Thanks for the explanation.
I see here http://fullcontactlaw.co.uk/2016/11/compensation-players-24-mystery/ that it applies to players under the age of 24 who do not accept their club's terms of a new contract.  As long as the contract terms offered  by the (parent) club are deemed reasonable, they're entitled to compensation from the player's new club.

However, if the player wishes to move to a foreign club, then Fifa have a fixed mathematical tarrif to cover that situation, therefore the low transfer compensation fee that Celtic paid for an out of contract Fulham player Dembele. Had Dembele chosen another English club and there was some disagreement over the amount of compensation to be paid to Fulham, then an arbitration process kicks in and they have a great deal of flexibility in deciding on a more rational valuation of the compensation packet. The arbitration committee's valuation can be multiples of the basic Fifa tarrif.

BennyHarp

Mad start of this game - could be about 6-3 by now after 15 mins
That was never a square ball!!

Main Street

I think Chris Sutton wanted to give motm to Brown, the rested captain.

tyroneStatto

3-0 up after 11 mins and then switched off. Aberdeen went flat out after that and still came up short.

ned

Quote from: BennyHarp on May 12, 2017, 08:02:21 PM
Mad start of this game - could be about 6-3 by now after 15 mins

Sensational!

StGallsGAA

Going the season unbeaten is some feat.  Hopefully Buck gets a pay rise to fend off the EPL teams who come for him.  Wouldn't mind at all if season book prices had to go up to pay for this.

tonto1888

Quote from: StGallsGAA on May 13, 2017, 08:18:03 AM
Going the season unbeaten is some feat.  Hopefully Buck gets a pay rise to fend off the EPL teams who come for him.  Wouldn't mind at all if season book prices had to go up to pay for this.

He has already signed a new contract has he not