Boxing Thread

[Atticus_Finch]

I'm still shocked by this. Thought Golvokin vs Eubank was a done deal. Golovkin was taunting Eubank over social media to sign the deal and then next thing this fight comes out of the blue. Eubank maintaining the whole time that he was never shown one contract.    Both Eubank and Brook are represented by Hearn, I still haven't seen anything from Hearn describing what's happened here.  I'd imagine that Chris Eubank snr would be an absolute nightmare to work with. I reckon he was playing hard ball to the extent that even Hearn got fed up with it and made the fight for Brook instead.

I'd been organising a trip to Manchester to see the Linares vs Crolla fight at the end of September. Think that will be a cracker of a fight but now tempted by this. Hearn will have presented it to Brook as a win win situation.  Would have rather seen the two more natural match ups (Khan vs Brook, Alvarez vs GGG). But they both could still happen.

Anyone making the trip for the Frampton vs Santa Cruz fight ?

[DuffleKing]

Hearn said on sky that Eubank was making unreasonable demands over PPV. Said that Joshua, etc all get the same deal on PPV but Eubank wanted more but Brook took it.

'Never seen a contract' is a cop out line - would imagine everything is hammered out verbally before anyone would bother drawing up contracts.

[bridgegael]

Hearn said there was a deadline by which Eubank had to sign contract,  more than like Sr was looking a few concessions,  deadline passed and can only imagine that brook sign the same contract that was meant for Eubank.  Brook needed a big fight, but this is too big for him

[Atticus_Finch]

Agree bridgegael.

I'm still happy to see fights happening rather than no fights happening.  Hearn knows there is too much money to be made from doing business with Golovkin and will have presented it to Brook as a win win situation.

Think Brook is a great fighter but the gulf in weight will be surely too much.  Golovkin by KO in rounds 7 or 8 for me.

[Milltown Row2]

I'm still shocked by this. Thought Golvokin vs Eubank was a done deal. Golovkin was taunting Eubank over social media to sign the deal and then next thing this fight comes out of the blue. Eubank maintaining the whole time that he was never shown one contract.    Both Eubank and Brook are represented by Hearn, I still haven't seen anything from Hearn describing what's happened here.  I'd imagine that Chris Eubank snr would be an absolute nightmare to work with. I reckon he was playing hard ball to the extent that even Hearn got fed up with it and made the fight for Brook instead.

I'd been organising a trip to Manchester to see the Linares vs Crolla fight at the end of September. Think that will be a cracker of a fight but now tempted by this. Hearn will have presented it to Brook as a win win situation.  Would have rather seen the two more natural match ups (Khan vs Brook, Alvarez vs GGG). But they both could still happen.

Anyone making the trip for the Frampton vs Santa Cruz fight ?

Not making fight, in-laws' going.... Going to be a tough ask for Carl... Taller fighter bigger weight good puncher, away from home..just a few factor's for me that will work against him....

Carl would need to start early, get the hard body shots in and put him away quickly, cant let it go further than 8/9 rounds for me, home decision and all that

[BennyHarp]

I'm still shocked by this. Thought Golvokin vs Eubank was a done deal. Golovkin was taunting Eubank over social media to sign the deal and then next thing this fight comes out of the blue. Eubank maintaining the whole time that he was never shown one contract.    Both Eubank and Brook are represented by Hearn, I still haven't seen anything from Hearn describing what's happened here.  I'd imagine that Chris Eubank snr would be an absolute nightmare to work with. I reckon he was playing hard ball to the extent that even Hearn got fed up with it and made the fight for Brook instead.

I'd been organising a trip to Manchester to see the Linares vs Crolla fight at the end of September. Think that will be a cracker of a fight but now tempted by this. Hearn will have presented it to Brook as a win win situation.  Would have rather seen the two more natural match ups (Khan vs Brook, Alvarez vs GGG). But they both could still happen.

Anyone making the trip for the Frampton vs Santa Cruz fight ?

Apparently Eubank wanted to triple ticket prices and choose who commentated on Sky. Hearn said he has the same business model for every pay per view fight and wasn't happy to give control of logistics to the Eubanks. Fair play to him for setting the deadline and moving quickly to make the alternative match up. As far as I can gather, Eubank Jr is not officially part of the Matchroom team but has used Hearn on occasion to organise fights.

[Atticus_Finch]

I'm still shocked by this. Thought Golvokin vs Eubank was a done deal. Golovkin was taunting Eubank over social media to sign the deal and then next thing this fight comes out of the blue. Eubank maintaining the whole time that he was never shown one contract.    Both Eubank and Brook are represented by Hearn, I still haven't seen anything from Hearn describing what's happened here.  I'd imagine that Chris Eubank snr would be an absolute nightmare to work with. I reckon he was playing hard ball to the extent that even Hearn got fed up with it and made the fight for Brook instead.

I'd been organising a trip to Manchester to see the Linares vs Crolla fight at the end of September. Think that will be a cracker of a fight but now tempted by this. Hearn will have presented it to Brook as a win win situation.  Would have rather seen the two more natural match ups (Khan vs Brook, Alvarez vs GGG). But they both could still happen.

Anyone making the trip for the Frampton vs Santa Cruz fight ?

Not making fight, in-laws' going.... Going to be a tough ask for Carl... Taller fighter bigger weight good puncher, away from home..just a few factor's for me that will work against him....

Carl would need to start early, get the hard body shots in and put him away quickly, cant let it go further than 8/9 rounds for me, home decision and all that

A tough night lies ahead for Frampton, no doubt about it.  He hasn't been given the credit he deserves for taking the fight. Hopefully he does the business.

Eubank Jnr sending out a few sour grapes tweets I see.  Taking absolute dog's abuse for it. I've said it before on here - he needs to get rid off the old man, his ego is just too big and he's an absolute rocket.  Why would you ever send him in to negotiate on your behalf ?

[BennyHarp]

I'm still shocked by this. Thought Golvokin vs Eubank was a done deal. Golovkin was taunting Eubank over social media to sign the deal and then next thing this fight comes out of the blue. Eubank maintaining the whole time that he was never shown one contract.    Both Eubank and Brook are represented by Hearn, I still haven't seen anything from Hearn describing what's happened here.  I'd imagine that Chris Eubank snr would be an absolute nightmare to work with. I reckon he was playing hard ball to the extent that even Hearn got fed up with it and made the fight for Brook instead.

I'd been organising a trip to Manchester to see the Linares vs Crolla fight at the end of September. Think that will be a cracker of a fight but now tempted by this. Hearn will have presented it to Brook as a win win situation.  Would have rather seen the two more natural match ups (Khan vs Brook, Alvarez vs GGG). But they both could still happen.

Anyone making the trip for the Frampton vs Santa Cruz fight ?

Not making fight, in-laws' going.... Going to be a tough ask for Carl... Taller fighter bigger weight good puncher, away from home..just a few factor's for me that will work against him....

Carl would need to start early, get the hard body shots in and put him away quickly, cant let it go further than 8/9 rounds for me, home decision and all that

A tough night lies ahead for Frampton, no doubt about it.  He hasn't been given the credit he deserves for taking the fight. Hopefully he does the business.

Eubank Jnr sending out a few sour grapes tweets I see.  Taking absolute dog's abuse for it. I've said it before on here - he needs to get rid off the old man, his ego is just too big and he's an absolute rocket.  Why would you ever send him in to negotiate on your behalf ?

Apparently Eubank Sr has sacked Eddie Hearn as his sons promoter. I get the feeling it may have been the other way round.

[omaghjoe]

I'm still shocked by this. Thought Golvokin vs Eubank was a done deal. Golovkin was taunting Eubank over social media to sign the deal and then next thing this fight comes out of the blue. Eubank maintaining the whole time that he was never shown one contract.    Both Eubank and Brook are represented by Hearn, I still haven't seen anything from Hearn describing what's happened here.  I'd imagine that Chris Eubank snr would be an absolute nightmare to work with. I reckon he was playing hard ball to the extent that even Hearn got fed up with it and made the fight for Brook instead.

I'd been organising a trip to Manchester to see the Linares vs Crolla fight at the end of September. Think that will be a cracker of a fight but now tempted by this. Hearn will have presented it to Brook as a win win situation.  Would have rather seen the two more natural match ups (Khan vs Brook, Alvarez vs GGG). But they both could still happen.

Anyone making the trip for the Frampton vs Santa Cruz fight ?

Apparently Eubank wanted to triple ticket prices and choose who commentated on Sky. Hearn said he has the same business model for every pay per view fight and wasn't happy to give control of logistics to the Eubanks. Fair play to him for setting the deadline and moving quickly to make the alternative match up. As far as I can gather, Eubank Jr is not officially part of the Matchroom team but has used Hearn on occasion to organise fights.

Just read that about Sr, what a plank he is, good stuff for him. Choosing Commentators WTF?

[BennyHarp]

Agree bridgegael.

I'm still happy to see fights happening rather than no fights happening.  Hearn knows there is too much money to be made from doing business with Golovkin and will have presented it to Brook as a win win situation.

Think Brook is a great fighter but the gulf in weight will be surely too much.  Golovkin by KO in rounds 7 or 8 for me.

Average fight night weights for Brook & Golovkin are quite similar apparently. Brook 163. GGG 168. Brook is a huge welterweight.

[CiKe]

Agree bridgegael.

I'm still happy to see fights happening rather than no fights happening.  Hearn knows there is too much money to be made from doing business with Golovkin and will have presented it to Brook as a win win situation.

Think Brook is a great fighter but the gulf in weight will be surely too much.  Golovkin by KO in rounds 7 or 8 for me.

Average fight night weights for Brook & Golovkin are quite similar apparently. Brook 163. GGG 168. Brook is a huge welterweight.

That is fair but ultimately GGG is used to taking punches from much heavier men than Brook is. I doubt this is going to be a Hagler-Hearns (or at least it won't be if Brook has any sense) but here is hoping!

[omaghjoe]

I thought Golovkin goes into the ring at 170lbs? So potentially he could come in above Golovkin then? Whats his training weight?

Never understood why superwelter was 154 making it closer to MW than WW

[TF15]

GGG has a great chin taking 160 fighters punches, Brook will not be able to deter GGG as he's happy to take one to get 3 off. If Brook can make the final bell he's had a blinder.

[gallsman]

I thought Golovkin goes into the ring at 170lbs? So potentially he could come in above Golovkin then? Whats his training weight?

Never understood why superwelter was 154 making it closer to MW than WW

It also goes, probably more commonly and accurately as Light Middleweight though 

[take_yer_points]

Any announcement on what TV channel is picking up the Frampton fight?

Anyone know this?