Boxing Thread

Started by bennydorano, November 04, 2007, 09:00:01 PM

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BennyHarp

This is much tougher than anyone imagined.
That was never a square ball!!

Syferus

Quote from: beer baron on July 18, 2015, 10:27:20 PM
This is turning into a hell of a fight. Hopefully come out the right side of it,can't chase too much,thi boys countering pretty well when he tries get in close.

Wouldn't give Gonzalez anything but the first round. Made him seem better than he is. Hometown decisions though, so Frampton better keep it up.

gallsman

Frampton up by three in my book with two to go. Gave Gonzalez the second and ninth in addition to the 10-7. He should be docked another point though.

gallsman

Quote from: gallsman on July 18, 2015, 10:51:51 PM
Frampton up by three in my book with two to go. Gave Gonzalez the second and ninth in addition to the 10-7. He should be docked another point though.

About f**king time!

Atticus_Finch

Frampton showed great character and composure to come back from that nightmare of a first round.

Biggest winner of the night is Eddie Hearn. His bargaining power to make Frampton vs Quigg happen on matchroom's terms looking a whole lot healthier after tonight's proceedings.
"The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience."

tyroneboi

Talking now about moving up in weight? What does that mean for Quigg fight?

BennyHarp

Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 18, 2015, 11:09:59 PM
Frampton showed great character and composure to come back from that nightmare of a first round.

Biggest winner of the night is Eddie Hearn. His bargaining power to make Frampton vs Quigg happen on matchroom's terms looking a whole lot healthier after tonight's proceedings.

Certainly makes Quigg fight more interesting because before tonight I wouldn't have given Quigg a chance.

Carl needs to reign in those excuses - soft canvas, weight issues?
That was never a square ball!!

gallsman

I dunno if I buy that chat about weight. If he had to cut drastically the last few days, it'd be down to poor management rather than biology. I don't think he wants any part of featherweight at the minute. Walters would look like an absolute monster beside him.

Syferus

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Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 18, 2015, 11:09:59 PM
Frampton showed great character and composure to come back from that nightmare of a first round.

Biggest winner of the night is Eddie Hearn. His bargaining power to make Frampton vs Quigg happen on matchroom's terms looking a whole lot healthier after tonight's proceedings.

Doubt it highly. Framps fought a tough Mexican in borderland USA on a canvas clearly designed for Chavez Jr. - he pull the exact same BS in the Andy Lee fight. Quigg had the royal treatment at home. The pace on a proper canvas in Manchester was a world away. Kiko is exciting but so fecking full of holes it isn't funny.

McGuigan will be no more receptive to hardball by Hearn now that his fighter has a profile in the States.

gallsman

Quote from: Syferus on July 18, 2015, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 18, 2015, 11:09:59 PM
Frampton showed great character and composure to come back from that nightmare of a first round.

Biggest winner of the night is Eddie Hearn. His bargaining power to make Frampton vs Quigg happen on matchroom's terms looking a whole lot healthier after tonight's proceedings.

Doubt it highly. Framps fought a tough Mexican in borderland USA on a canvas clearly designed for Chavez Jr. - he pull the exact same BS in the Andy Lee fight. Quit had the royal treatment at home. The pace on a proper canvas in Manchester was a world away. Kiko is exciting but so fecking full of holes it isn't funny.

McGuigan will be no more receptive to hardball by Hearn now that his fighter has a profile in the States.

Let's not get carried away. He's had one fight in a half empty arena in the middle of the afternoon. He does not "have a profile" just yet.

Atticus_Finch

Some amount of low blows in the fights tonight. Points deductions have this Crolla's fight.

A profile in the states ? Wise up. I don't think Frampton has a profile off the back of a fight that was staged at 3pm in the afternoon in the US against a fighter that isn't even ranked within the top 50 of his division (box rec)

Don't think a move up in weight would be a good idea either Gallsman.
"The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience."

Syferus

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Quote from: gallsman on July 18, 2015, 11:37:04 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 18, 2015, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 18, 2015, 11:09:59 PM
Frampton showed great character and composure to come back from that nightmare of a first round.

Biggest winner of the night is Eddie Hearn. His bargaining power to make Frampton vs Quigg happen on matchroom's terms looking a whole lot healthier after tonight's proceedings.

Doubt it highly. Framps fought a tough Mexican in borderland USA on a canvas clearly designed for Chavez Jr. - he pull the exact same BS in the Andy Lee fight. Quit had the royal treatment at home. The pace on a proper canvas in Manchester was a world away. Kiko is exciting but so fecking full of holes it isn't funny.

McGuigan will be no more receptive to hardball by Hearn now that his fighter has a profile in the States.

Let's not get carried away. He's had one fight in a half empty arena in the middle of the afternoon. He does not "have a profile" just yet.

It's being aired nationally on CBS - people in the States will know Frampton's name and after an exciting fight like that he'll be flooded with card offers in the States. I'm not fecking saying he's going to be main-eventing in the MGM. Quigg wouldn't be known from Adam even in casual boxing circles in the U.S.

He now has more options and isn't as reliant on the Framps-Quigg fight to make money as Quigg is. Unless Hearn cops that he can't play hardball and gets serious I fully expect Frampton to call his bluff and build his profile in the States and forget about the Quigg fight in the near term.

Sheedy

Thought Crolla was robbed there especially with the 2 point deduction. How can 3 judges score it so different?

gallsman

Quote from: Syferus on July 18, 2015, 11:42:33 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 18, 2015, 11:37:04 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 18, 2015, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 18, 2015, 11:09:59 PM
Frampton showed great character and composure to come back from that nightmare of a first round.

Biggest winner of the night is Eddie Hearn. His bargaining power to make Frampton vs Quigg happen on matchroom's terms looking a whole lot healthier after tonight's proceedings.

Doubt it highly. Framps fought a tough Mexican in borderland USA on a canvas clearly designed for Chavez Jr. - he pull the exact same BS in the Andy Lee fight. Quit had the royal treatment at home. The pace on a proper canvas in Manchester was a world away. Kiko is exciting but so fecking full of holes it isn't funny.

McGuigan will be no more receptive to hardball by Hearn now that his fighter has a profile in the States.

Let's not get carried away. He's had one fight in a half empty arena in the middle of the afternoon. He does not "have a profile" just yet.

It's being aired nationally on CBS - people in the States will know Frampton's name and after an exciting fight like that he'll be flooded with card offers in the States. I'm not fecking saying he's going to be main-eventing in the MGM. Quigg wouldn't be known from Adam even in casual boxing circles in the U.S.

He now has more options and isn't as reliant on the Framps-Quigg fight to make money as Quigg is. Unless Hearn cops that he can't play hardball and gets serious I fully expect Frampton to call his bluff and build his profile in the States and forget about the Quigg fight in the near term.

If Rigo goes up to fight Lomachenko, who's left in the division for him to fight AND make serious money off? Quigg is his cash cow at super bantam. I don't think he has the size for feather so Santa Cruz, Mares etc all looking like very, very long shots in my book

BennyHarp

Quote from: Syferus on July 18, 2015, 11:42:33 PM
Quote from: gallsman on July 18, 2015, 11:37:04 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 18, 2015, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on July 18, 2015, 11:09:59 PM
Frampton showed great character and composure to come back from that nightmare of a first round.

Biggest winner of the night is Eddie Hearn. His bargaining power to make Frampton vs Quigg happen on matchroom's terms looking a whole lot healthier after tonight's proceedings.

Doubt it highly. Framps fought a tough Mexican in borderland USA on a canvas clearly designed for Chavez Jr. - he pull the exact same BS in the Andy Lee fight. Quit had the royal treatment at home. The pace on a proper canvas in Manchester was a world away. Kiko is exciting but so fecking full of holes it isn't funny.

McGuigan will be no more receptive to hardball by Hearn now that his fighter has a profile in the States.

Let's not get carried away. He's had one fight in a half empty arena in the middle of the afternoon. He does not "have a profile" just yet.

It's being aired nationally on CBS - people in the States will know Frampton's name and after an exciting fight like that he'll be flooded with card offers in the States. Quigg wouldn't be known from Adam even in casual boxing circles in the U.S.

He now has much more options and isn't as reliant on the Framps-Quigg fight  to make money as Quigg is. Unless Hearn cops that he can't play hardball and gets serious I fully expect Frampton to call his bluff and build his profile in the States and forget about the Quigg fight in the near term.

Frampton won't make anywhere near as much money for a fight in the U.S as he will fighting Quigg in Manchester or Belfast. Profile is all very well but who is the opponent that the America public are crying out for Frampton to fight? He will fill under cards in America and no more. The Quigg fight will happen, just a matter of who will be in the best position to negotiate the highest percentage when it does. Tonight shifted that power very slightly towards Quigg as he was very impressive.
That was never a square ball!!