Corporal punishment in schools

Started by Eamonnca1, April 11, 2013, 06:46:39 PM

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Eamonnca1

Just saw some people on another thread saying they'd bring it back.

My memories of corporal punishment are of it being used the most by the least competent teachers.  The better teachers could shut up a classroom full of teenagers with just one look, no need to hit anyone.  The best teachers of all had earned the respect of the pupils by being good at their jobs, and for the most heinous offenders there were plenty of other sanctions that could be taken against them.

Of the three schools I went to, the strap was used heavily in one of them, and that was the most violent school of all.  The mentality of the pupils there was that if you thought somebody did something wrong, you had the right to hit them. I wonder where they got that message from.

Oraisteach

I'm with you on this one, Eamonn.  Teachers ought to be about curtailing bullying, not being bullies themselves.  I got the strap the odd time myself, a thoroughly pointless exercise.  I was a good student.  If anything, far from making me a better student, it could have had the adverse effect and made me hate school.

stew

Quote from: Oraisteach on April 11, 2013, 06:55:53 PM
I'm with you on this one, Eamonn.  Teachers ought to be about curtailing bullying, not being bullies themselves.  I got the strap the odd time myself, a thoroughly pointless exercise.  I was a good student.  If anything, far from making me a better student, it could have had the adverse effect and made me hate school.

Agreed Orais.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

T Fearon

Got whacked acoss fingers very hard with cane at primary school a few times which was very sore and even brutal at such a young age.Definitely did induce good behaviour.

T Fearon


Main Street

Personally I wouldn't hit anyone smaller than me (that means most people on the planet) unless they are teachers.
But they are such cowards when confronted, you really just have to turn a deaf ear to their squealing and grab them by the lapels.
Usually you don't need to do anything more, they'll get the message, they're such cowards behind their condescending bluster.
If you have to hit them, one blow is usually enough.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Main Street on April 11, 2013, 11:41:51 PM
Personally I wouldn't hit anyone smaller than me (that means most people on the planet) unless they are teachers.
But they are such cowards when confronted, you really just have to turn a deaf ear to their squealing and grab them by the lapels.
Usually you don't need to do anything more, they'll get the message, they're such cowards behind their condescending bluster.
If you have to hit them, one blow is usually enough.
Watch out O'Neill.

Eamonnca1

There was a history teacher in our school that was renowned for beating the crap out of pupils. He had to avoid all pupils in the street in later years because it turns out he was a short-ass who wasn't so cocky when faced with somebody his own size or bigger. They reckon he would get his head kicked in regularly because when the lads grew up they never forgot.

Main Street

Worse than the history teacher bully is the pretentious English teacher with a bit of Latin.

Oraisteach

What does a "pretentious English teacher with a bit of Latin" do?

Main Street

Quote from: Oraisteach on April 12, 2013, 12:12:35 AM
What does a "pretentious English teacher with a bit of Latin" do?
Tends to use the bit of latin to demonstrate a bit of superiority.
Are you one of 'them'?

ONeill

Corporal punishment could never be re-introduced because of the discipline shift from teacher-led to parent-driven. A teacher is now accountable to the whims and wishes of a parent in almost every facet of their child's education. Too right you may say.

Anyway, to teach through fear is cowardly.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

ONeill

Quote from: Main Street on April 12, 2013, 12:00:12 AM
Worse than the history teacher bully is the pretentious English teacher with a bit of Latin.

You sound like a boy who was probably a bit stupid as a young'un (or ab incunabulis) but excelled later on with spellcheck and youtube. More power to you I say.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: ONeill on April 12, 2013, 12:23:24 AM
Corporal punishment could never be re-introduced because of the discipline shift from teacher-led to parent-driven. A teacher is now accountable to the whims and wishes of a parent in almost every facet of their child's education. Too right you may say.

Anyway, to teach through fear is cowardly.
The missus said some parent was giving off in one of the January parents night about teachers not teaching children manners!

Main Street

Quote from: ONeill on April 12, 2013, 12:25:11 AM
Quote from: Main Street on April 12, 2013, 12:00:12 AM
Worse than the history teacher bully is the pretentious English teacher with a bit of Latin.

You sound like a boy who was probably a bit stupid as a young'un (or ab incunabulis) but excelled later on with spellcheck and youtube. More power to you I say.
Not at all, I excelled despite the interference of teachers and their assumptions about my intelligence levels.