The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Salah says goodbye

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EC Unique

It was a deliberate hand ball to control the ball to enable him to score a goal.... just the same as the Thierry Henry goal against Ireland for France. Most strikers would attempt it and most times the officials will see it and take action. 

The fact that the goal stood was the fault of the officials and not the players on both occasions.

Tough luck on Mansfield though, they deserved another day out.

Geoff Tipps

Quote from: Bingo on January 07, 2013, 09:39:20 AM
The main person with reason to cry and throw abuse at Suarez was the Mansfield manager and he was the main person talking sense after it. The ESPN commentators, Ray stubbs and even Kevin Keegan need to have a look at themselves with their cries of cheating. I don't think they even mentioned video replay which would have sorted it out. Des Cahill on twitter was worse, saying Liverpool should have let Mansfield score a goal to cancel it out. 12 year old stuff.

Suarez didn't cheat, no more than any person who commits a foul and gets away with it during the game cheats. Suarez was 100% convinced that it would be disallowed. The officials either missed it or felt it was ball to hand (i'd think it was more hand to ball from instinct and he then pulled hand away and expected the free to be given).

Any player or team would take it in same position. I just wish he'd have saved it for Old Trafford next week.

John Champion and Chris Waddle who commentated on the game were even worse!

You're right though it was an instinctive reaction. He raised his hand to try and protect his body. Imagine for a second if that ball had hit his head. He could have been killed  ;)

AZOffaly

Probably instinctive alright, but certainly should have been disallowed. My first thought was that he missed a great PR opportunity for himself. If he had told the ref it was handball he'd have become a fair play icon in one fell swoop. Pity really.

Link

Quote from: AZOffaly on January 07, 2013, 10:06:35 AM
Probably instinctive alright, but certainly should have been disallowed. My first thought was that he missed a great PR opportunity for himself. If he had told the ref it was handball he'd have become a fair play icon in one fell swoop. Pity really.

+1

laoislad

Quote from: AZOffaly on January 07, 2013, 10:06:35 AM
Probably instinctive alright, but certainly should have been disallowed. My first thought was that he missed a great PR opportunity for himself. If he had told the ref it was handball he'd have become a fair play icon in one fell swoop. Pity really.

But the officials saw it was a handball and decided it wasn't deliberate so what difference would it have made if Suarez said he handled it? They already knew he had.

Nordie Tayto is shite

deiseach

Quote from: AZOffaly on January 07, 2013, 10:06:35 AM
Probably instinctive alright, but certainly should have been disallowed. My first thought was that he missed a great PR opportunity for himself. If he had told the ref it was handball he'd have become a fair play icon in one fell swoop. Pity really.

First rule of team sport - play the whistle. Yes, it would have been nice in this particular instance of the easily-demonised Suarez had he made a magnificent gesture, but that would run counter to every instinct drilled into a footballer from an early age. Where does this end? If a striker goes in for the ball with the goalie and the goalie drops it, should he not poke the ball into the empty net on the basis that he might have gotten too close?

Two Hands FFS

Should Roy Carroll have told the ref that the ball was 2 yards over the line v Spurs or Neuer v England. No, the ref missed it!! Was that cheating? Is bringing someone down if they are clean through cheating??

Bingo

Anyone (I'm sure you did, as she got plenty of attention) see the CEO of Mansfield yesterday. Apart from it been obvious she knew nothing about football, plenty of stories around internet forums that she was a former Escort but in a Pretty Woman type turn around fell for true love and her Millionaire husband who owns the club and give her the CEO job.

deiseach

Quote from: Bingo on January 07, 2013, 11:25:22 AM
Anyone (I'm sure you did, as she got plenty of attention) see the CEO of Mansfield yesterday. Apart from it been obvious she knew nothing about football, plenty of stories around internet forums that she was a former Escort but in a Pretty Woman type turn around fell for true love and her Millionaire husband who owns the club and give her the CEO job.

I think she said on Football Focus on Saturday that she was hoping for a draw so they could get a money-spinning replay at Anfield. If that's her idea of the romance of the Cup, she can sod off with her whining.

tommysmith

Not to many comments on how crap LFC played yesterday.

Bingo

Quote from: tommysmith on January 07, 2013, 12:05:01 PM
Not to many comments on how crap LFC played yesterday.

Suarez is a genius like Fergie, he knew things weren't going well and handballed for the goal to take all the attention away from the performance, mind games, masterful from Suarez and all that crap.  ;)

Summed up the season really yeaterday - first half was decent, could have been 3-0, second half went to sleep and performance dropped. The good and the bad.

wildrover

Quote from: deiseach on January 07, 2013, 11:35:26 AM
Quote from: Bingo on January 07, 2013, 11:25:22 AM
Anyone (I'm sure you did, as she got plenty of attention) see the CEO of Mansfield yesterday. Apart from it been obvious she knew nothing about football, plenty of stories around internet forums that she was a former Escort but in a Pretty Woman type turn around fell for true love and her Millionaire husband who owns the club and give her the CEO job.

I think she said on Football Focus on Saturday that she was hoping for a draw so they could get a money-spinning replay at Anfield. If that's her idea of the romance of the Cup, she can sod off with her whining.

Saw the clip on Football Focus myself. Ridiculous situation that she manages to find herself in that position and can't help morale around the club when thats going on. Must break the hearts of the proper football people around the club. It was apparent in her interview that she couldn't run a nail salon (even though that may be a subject closer to her heart) never mind a football club.

Declan

This case came up in discussion last night with a few lads over the Suarez handball:

Germany striker Miroslav Klose has received a fair play award from the German FA after admitting a goal he had scored last month in the Italian league was a handball.

The 34-year-old, who has scored 65 times for Germany in 125 appearances, won the prize after informing the referee a goal he had scored for Lazio against Napoli in Serie A at the end of September had hit his hand first.

After Klose's confession, the referee cancelled the goal as Lazio went on to lose the match 3-0 at Napoli. The German was praised by his opponents on the pitch and later by the Italian media for his honesty.

"The referee asked me if the ball had hit my hand," said Klose, who will play in Germany's FIFA World Cup qualifier against Sweden at Berlin's Olympic Stadium on Tuesday.

"I admitted it had and, for me, that was the obvious thing to do.There are so many young people who sit in front of the television, that we should set a good example."

Klose also won a similar award in 2005 when playing for Werder Bremen in a Bundesliga match against Bielefeld. After Bremen were awarded a penalty, Klose told the referee that the Bielefeld goalkeeper had the ball first before the striker fell in the area.

The referee reversed his penalty decision and also cancelled the yellow card shown to the goalkeeper.-

NAG1

Quote from: Declan on January 07, 2013, 01:05:12 PM
This case came up in discussion last night with a few lads over the Suarez handball:

Germany striker Miroslav Klose has received a fair play award from the German FA after admitting a goal he had scored last month in the Italian league was a handball.

The 34-year-old, who has scored 65 times for Germany in 125 appearances, won the prize after informing the referee a goal he had scored for Lazio against Napoli in Serie A at the end of September had hit his hand first.

After Klose's confession, the referee cancelled the goal as Lazio went on to lose the match 3-0 at Napoli. The German was praised by his opponents on the pitch and later by the Italian media for his honesty.

"The referee asked me if the ball had hit my hand," said Klose, who will play in Germany's FIFA World Cup qualifier against Sweden at Berlin's Olympic Stadium on Tuesday.

"I admitted it had and, for me, that was the obvious thing to do.There are so many young people who sit in front of the television, that we should set a good example."

Klose also won a similar award in 2005 when playing for Werder Bremen in a Bundesliga match against Bielefeld. After Bremen were awarded a penalty, Klose told the referee that the Bielefeld goalkeeper had the ball first before the striker fell in the area.

The referee reversed his penalty decision and also cancelled the yellow card shown to the goalkeeper.-

What do Liverpool fans think of the progress of the team under BR half way or there abouts during the season what is the verdict or thoughts?

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: AZOffaly on January 07, 2013, 10:06:35 AM
Probably instinctive alright, but certainly should have been disallowed. My first thought was that he missed a great PR opportunity for himself. If he had told the ref it was handball he'd have become a fair play icon in one fell swoop. Pity really.

Not very many have done that though. Robbie Fowler once told the ref he wasn't fouled after David Seaman was adjudged to have fouled him in the box for a penalty. Robbie still stuck the penalty into the net though. His sportsmanship only went so far once scoring goals was concerned.