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[My feeling is the players will announce tomorrow that they won't be fulfilling the fixtures]

We should be sending the u-17s or a select 11 from the Irish 2nd division out to play the Israeli's for both fixtures and the indefinite future.

Typical of the lack of imagination at the FAI that they couldn't think of fudge to barely pacify UEFA whilst still making it clear that the Irish men's team refuse to play Israel whilst the commit genocide and ethnic displacement. Their comments this week about "oh we couldn't do without the money" were particularly disgusting. They're a stain on the Irish nation but that's nothing new.

So the same logic the GAA used about Allianz?

Worst case, and possible, is UEFA ban all Irish teams from international competition for 2 years. That is no Irish teams playing any games. That is LoI clubs out of Europe. Mass redundancies, the development of the game hugely hit. While principles cost, the FAI have a duty of care to the gane too.

But it could be a lot less than that. And with the way the last week or two has went UEFA would be very aware that there's the potential for even more boycotts. That the sentiment around this genocide is a lot stronger than people would have thought. UEFA don't want to be in a position of having to ban Spain cause they've previously banned Ireland.

Do you think the FAI would be going through this over a fine? Of course UEFA have clearly laid out the consequences and the FAI have made their call based on that.

Spain haven't stepped up. Nobody has. This notion that UEFA will frop it because a ban will be unpopular is very naive.

You have no idea what they will do. And I have very little faith in the FAI doing the right thing, so yes I believe they have no idea of what UEFA would do and just want to avoid any risk. They're just too scared or indifference to make the right call on it.

We know what they CAN do...

Are you seriously suggesting the FAI haven't spoken to UEFA?

Scared, definitely. Indifferent, get real.

Not prepared to take the risk then if your unhappy with indifferent. Or unprincipled. Take your pick. Making the wrong decision anyway. Alienating some of your support is never a smart move long term.

As opposed to potentially alienating them all by having to shutter LR for two years?

It's easy to hurl from the ditch, but the FAI have a duty of care to their game, first and foremost.

Nobody is happy with anything here, but it's easy for Gaels to want a rival sport to slit it's own throat

Last line says it all. You're just not happy a few "Gaels" are having a go at the FAI. It's possible to like both GAA and soccer. In fact I'd say the majority of gaa members would be at least passive soccer fans. It could just be a case that some people believe the FAI are totally in the wrong here.

Not quite my point.

Most people opining here that the FAI should man up and take the punishment won't be in any way impacted by the punishment. You don't care about the U15's having no competitive football and how that impacts on development. You aren't going to miss out on Pats in Europe as you won't watch it, let alone go.

A large chunk of it is popping at the FAI on muscle memory and ignoring that it is UEFA creating and exacerbating the issue.

Where are you getting this info from re UEFA sanctions?

" Between 2024 and May of this year, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia opted out of competitive fixtures when drawn against Belarus in qualifiers. Their punishments were 3-0 defeats and, in one case, a small fine of €5,000. That seems a small price to pay for taking a stand."

My feeling is the players will announce tomorrow that they won't be fulfilling the fixtures 🤞🏻

we can only hope

[Israel's Sayed Abu Farhi was sent off for a goal celebration where he appeared to use the corner flag to mimic shooting a gun in his side's Nations League defeat by Austria.]

Israel's Sayed Abu Farhi was sent off for a goal celebration where he appeared to use the corner flag to mimic shooting a gun in his side's Nations League defeat by Austria.


That's what you're up against

Ref probably will. be labelled as antisemitic

Sayed abu would be Palestinian not Jewish so no antisemitism.

Its also a pool cue celebration that he's done a few times before. Who the hell holds a gun like that lol.
Lifting the corner flag is a yellow, silly thing to do when you're already on a yellow.

yeah he will have got the yellow for lifting the flag, not the actual celebration

I'll be depressed if it's allowed. Just about of enough to remember and understand what was happening last time in the late 90s.

I remember it all too well. Im from Lurgan but mums family are from Portadown and lived in Ballyoran, right on the road so I spent a lot of time there in my youth. They cant let them down, they just cant

We should be sending the u-17s or a select 11 from the Irish 2nd division out to play the Israeli's for both fixtures and the indefinite future.

Typical of the lack of imagination at the FAI that they couldn't think of fudge to barely pacify UEFA whilst still making it clear that the Irish men's team refuse to play Israel whilst the commit genocide and ethnic displacement. Their comments this week about "oh we couldn't do without the money" were particularly disgusting. They're a stain on the Irish nation but that's nothing new.

So the same logic the GAA used about Allianz?

Worst case, and possible, is UEFA ban all Irish teams from international competition for 2 years. That is no Irish teams playing any games. That is LoI clubs out of Europe. Mass redundancies, the development of the game hugely hit. While principles cost, the FAI have a duty of care to the gane too.

But it could be a lot less than that. And with the way the last week or two has went UEFA would be very aware that there's the potential for even more boycotts. That the sentiment around this genocide is a lot stronger than people would have thought. UEFA don't want to be in a position of having to ban Spain cause they've previously banned Ireland.

Do you think the FAI would be going through this over a fine? Of course UEFA have clearly laid out the consequences and the FAI have made their call based on that.

Spain haven't stepped up. Nobody has. This notion that UEFA will frop it because a ban will be unpopular is very naive.

You have no idea what they will do. And I have very little faith in the FAI doing the right thing, so yes I believe they have no idea of what UEFA would do and just want to avoid any risk. They're just too scared or indifference to make the right call on it.

We know what they CAN do...

Are you seriously suggesting the FAI haven't spoken to UEFA?

Scared, definitely. Indifferent, get real.

Not prepared to take the risk then if your unhappy with indifferent. Or unprincipled. Take your pick. Making the wrong decision anyway. Alienating some of your support is never a smart move long term.

As opposed to potentially alienating them all by having to shutter LR for two years?

It's easy to hurl from the ditch, but the FAI have a duty of care to their game, first and foremost.

Nobody is happy with anything here, but it's easy for Gaels to want a rival sport to slit it's own throat

Last line says it all. You're just not happy a few "Gaels" are having a go at the FAI. It's possible to like both GAA and soccer. In fact I'd say the majority of gaa members would be at least passive soccer fans. It could just be a case that some people believe the FAI are totally in the wrong here.

exactly. I want to the irish team to do as well as possible in any competition they are in. However, I think this is more important

Rose Tattoo?

that was the band, yeah

Yeah same circs here with the wife she also has a highly pressurised job

In work, not really, I am the lead man in my field in the company and a lot of people look to me for answers and bring me their problems, to some extent I am the sounding board and fixer, not someone who brings a problem elsewhere. I am sure I will be able to shake it, just I have never had a feeling like it linger for so long. Onwards and upwards

Not sure what is up, however, finding things really bloody tough right now, have a mood I cannot lift at all. I have spoken to the wife about it but have played it down to her as she will only worry. I am not a man for opening up at all and I am used being the wise one (steady) and the strong one for the wife and children. Main breadwinner and work is so much pressure right now, hopefully I shake it soon and hoping even typing it on here will help.

You're not alone in that regard. I just tell the wife things are grand regardless of how my day goes, as she has plenty on her plate too. Don't know your work circumstances but dont let it pile up to a point where it becomes a burden that's hard to shift. Anyone in work you can talk to to shift a few things around?

 

it can be hard to do but sometimes you need to swallow the pride and say 3 words. I need help. I done it just over 11 years ago and I am now sober. Best thing I ever did. Slightly different circs I will grant you, but it will help

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c6wyzk2xyz90o

they are aware of the "noise around the game"

Deary me

[I actually get good stuff from them]

I know a few people that have deleted social media recently and have said it's really helped their head space.

I've done this for lent this year. Works a treat to be fair.

I'll go back on after Easter as the kids school post a lot on Facebook but that'll be it.

I got rid of twitter when it turned to X. After the fortnights withdrawal symptoms haha I felt better mentally. Cant see me ever getting it back. Still have FB and IG as I actually get good stuff from them but as soon as they go toxic and start affecting me they are gone

Those Sydney Sweeney videos on Instagram help the mood. Or so I've heard.

well I was thinking of concert dates, fitness competition dates etc, but yeah, that too haha

[I'm finding the darker mornings and shortening evenings playing havoc with me.]

I know a few people that have deleted social media recently and have said it's really helped their head space.

I've done this for lent this year. Works a treat to be fair.

I'll go back on after Easter as the kids school post a lot on Facebook but that'll be it.

I got rid of twitter when it turned to X. After the fortnights withdrawal symptoms haha I felt better mentally. Cant see me ever getting it back. Still have FB and IG as I actually get good stuff from them but as soon as they go toxic and start affecting me they are gone

I did the same. Put a limit on my social media, 30mins a day. It's made such a difference.

I'm finding the darker mornings and shortening evenings playing havoc with me.

you wouldnt be alone in this. I knw a few people who get affected by it

I know a few people that have deleted social media recently and have said it's really helped their head space.

I've done this for lent this year. Works a treat to be fair.

I'll go back on after Easter as the kids school post a lot on Facebook but that'll be it.

I got rid of twitter when it turned to X. After the fortnights withdrawal symptoms haha I felt better mentally. Cant see me ever getting it back. Still have FB and IG as I actually get good stuff from them but as soon as they go toxic and start affecting me they are gone

Jim Allister on the radio invoking EU law which favours the right to assemble.  The same man who has nearly twisted himself inside out over the thought of EU law applying under the Windsor Framework.

they pick and choose whatever suits them

Talk of Neil Lennon! Jesus Christ

Wash your mouth out...

Its the salary these big guns will demand Arnie Slot and his back room team will be £10m+, Eddie Howe may not be as much but it won't be too far off that. Kieran McKenna has a clause in his last payout that would cost Celtic £6m just to free that up before any negotations. Knowing Celtic they will have John McGlynn the Falkirk manager or someone of that calibre

That should be no problem to Celtic. Just pay out McKenna and start building. Spend money to make money and all that. But we all know that it's the small club and biscuit tin mentality of the owners. In saying that, they did spend a bit of money (that they made from transfers) and some of the players appear to be badduns! Or maybe they're just playing with no confidence. Who knows ffs.
Love Neil Lennon but I never rated him that much as a manager and it would be a step backwards. The whole thing is a shambles.

think this is part of the problem the fans have. We arent actually spending any money on the squad. I am not gonna pretend to knwo anything about the finances of the club but surely we can spend more than we bring in on transfers?

As for the players we have brought in. Other than Duran, who seems to have gone off the boil, I havent been impressed. I think theres a good striker there in Hogh but for some reason we arent getting it out of him. Maybe not playing to his strengths?

Personal opinion that I wouldn't push on anyone.
I am a sports fan and a supporter of the national team. I go to the Aviva very occasionally.

If they play against Isreal I won't watch the Irish team again until anyone who plays in this game is gone.
The FAI have sold the players out but the players can make their own decisions also.

I understand the reported ramifications of not playing them. It's easy for an armchair supporter to say I don't care - I don't - but the good will of taking a stand will long outlive the impact of a punishment that virtually every other nation will oppose.

agree with all of this though I am still hopeful some players may take a stand.
As you say though, easy for us sititng at home to say to boycott