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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: trueblue1234 on September 22, 2026, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 22, 2026, 10:35:30 AM
Quote from: trileacman on September 21, 2026, 11:50:07 PMWe should be sending the u-17s or a select 11 from the Irish 2nd division out to play the Israeli's for both fixtures and the indefinite future.

Typical of the lack of imagination at the FAI that they couldn't think of fudge to barely pacify UEFA whilst still making it clear that the Irish men's team refuse to play Israel whilst the commit genocide and ethnic displacement. Their comments this week about "oh we couldn't do without the money" were particularly disgusting. They're a stain on the Irish nation but that's nothing new.
So the same logic the GAA used about Allianz?

Worst case, and possible, is UEFA ban all Irish teams from international competition for 2 years. That is no Irish teams playing any games. That is LoI clubs out of Europe. Mass redundancies, the development of the game hugely hit. While principles cost, the FAI have a duty of care to the gane too.
But it could be a lot less than that. And with the way the last week or two has went UEFA would be very aware that there's the potential for even more boycotts. That the sentiment around this genocide is a lot stronger than people would have thought. UEFA don't want to be in a position of having to ban Spain cause they've previously banned Ireland.
Do you think the FAI would be going through this over a fine? Of course UEFA have clearly laid out the consequences and the FAI have made their call based on that.

Spain haven't stepped up. Nobody has. This notion that UEFA will frop it because a ban will be unpopular is very naive.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: DuffleKing on September 22, 2026, 02:43:33 PMPersonal opinion that I wouldn't push on anyone.
I am a sports fan and a supporter of the national team. I go to the Aviva very occasionally.

If they play against Isreal I won't watch the Irish team again until anyone who plays in this game is gone.
The FAI have sold the players out but the players can make their own decisions also.

I understand the reported ramifications of not playing them. It's easy for an armchair supporter to say I don't care - I don't - but the good will of taking a stand will long outlive the impact of a punishment that virtually every other nation will oppose.
You do understand that you are unlikely to be watching them for two years if they boycott?

UEFA are the baddies here.

tonto1888

Quote from: DuffleKing on September 22, 2026, 02:43:33 PMPersonal opinion that I wouldn't push on anyone.
I am a sports fan and a supporter of the national team. I go to the Aviva very occasionally.

If they play against Isreal I won't watch the Irish team again until anyone who plays in this game is gone.
The FAI have sold the players out but the players can make their own decisions also.

I understand the reported ramifications of not playing them. It's easy for an armchair supporter to say I don't care - I don't - but the good will of taking a stand will long outlive the impact of a punishment that virtually every other nation will oppose.

agree with all of this though I am still hopeful some players may take a stand.
As you say though, easy for us sititng at home to say to boycott

Saffron_sam20

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 23, 2026, 01:59:55 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 22, 2026, 02:43:33 PMPersonal opinion that I wouldn't push on anyone.
I am a sports fan and a supporter of the national team. I go to the Aviva very occasionally.

If they play against Isreal I won't watch the Irish team again until anyone who plays in this game is gone.
The FAI have sold the players out but the players can make their own decisions also.

I understand the reported ramifications of not playing them. It's easy for an armchair supporter to say I don't care - I don't - but the good will of taking a stand will long outlive the impact of a punishment that virtually every other nation will oppose.
You do understand that you are unlikely to be watching them for two years if they boycott?

UEFA are the baddies here.

exactly, Ireland dont want to be playing Isreal, this is all on UEFA, we all know Ireland will get completely hammered if they pull out. these players have aspirations to play in tournaments, to do that they have to play the game. Go out and completely wipe the floor with them.

Milltown Row2

This is purely an individual thing, if a player feels strongly enough with what's going on in Palestine he'll refuse to play, if he plays then that is on him, whatever UEFA feel are the ramifications from that then yeah they are also complacent..

Either you make a stand (as a person or team) or you bow and play
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

JohnDenver

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2026, 08:36:31 AMThis is purely an individual thing, if a player feels strongly enough with what's going on in Palestine he'll refuse to play, if he plays then that is on him, whatever UEFA feel are the ramifications from that then yeah they are also complacent..

Either you make a stand (as a person or team) or you bow and play

That's what I would like to see. A player taking a stand and publicly declaring he won't play. Could open the floodgates for the rest.

As much of a fool James McClean can be and has been recently, he would be the type of person to stand up and do as much.

Would be great if the likes of Troy Parrott led the way. He certainly has the backing of Betis.

Armagh18

Quote from: JohnDenver on September 23, 2026, 08:52:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 23, 2026, 08:36:31 AMThis is purely an individual thing, if a player feels strongly enough with what's going on in Palestine he'll refuse to play, if he plays then that is on him, whatever UEFA feel are the ramifications from that then yeah they are also complacent..

Either you make a stand (as a person or team) or you bow and play

That's what I would like to see. A player taking a stand and publicly declaring he won't play. Could open the floodgates for the rest.

As much of a fool James McClean can be and has been recently, he would be the type of person to stand up and do as much.

Would be great if the likes of Troy Parrott led the way. He certainly has the backing of Betis.
McClean for all his faults would 100% have had the balls to refuse to play these c***ts.

Bitterly disappointed that at least one player hasn't spoken out.

weareros

I see ex players like Kevin Kilbane speaking out. But Kevin never had a problem displaying his poppy. So ok to celebrate an army that slaughtered Irish people. McClean is the only ex player that has credibility on this.

SaffronSports

TBF to Ireland, they have at the very least displayed their unhappiness about this game. This group isn't just Ireland and Israel, what are the other two nations doing that are due to play them? Ireland are doing something albeit probably not enough.

I'd be delighted if Ireland pulled out of the game tbh but I'm saying that as a lad living in the north who won't be impacted by it in any way.

trueblue1234

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 23, 2026, 01:58:11 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on September 22, 2026, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 22, 2026, 10:35:30 AM
Quote from: trileacman on September 21, 2026, 11:50:07 PMWe should be sending the u-17s or a select 11 from the Irish 2nd division out to play the Israeli's for both fixtures and the indefinite future.

Typical of the lack of imagination at the FAI that they couldn't think of fudge to barely pacify UEFA whilst still making it clear that the Irish men's team refuse to play Israel whilst the commit genocide and ethnic displacement. Their comments this week about "oh we couldn't do without the money" were particularly disgusting. They're a stain on the Irish nation but that's nothing new.
So the same logic the GAA used about Allianz?

Worst case, and possible, is UEFA ban all Irish teams from international competition for 2 years. That is no Irish teams playing any games. That is LoI clubs out of Europe. Mass redundancies, the development of the game hugely hit. While principles cost, the FAI have a duty of care to the gane too.
But it could be a lot less than that. And with the way the last week or two has went UEFA would be very aware that there's the potential for even more boycotts. That the sentiment around this genocide is a lot stronger than people would have thought. UEFA don't want to be in a position of having to ban Spain cause they've previously banned Ireland.
Do you think the FAI would be going through this over a fine? Of course UEFA have clearly laid out the consequences and the FAI have made their call based on that.

Spain haven't stepped up. Nobody has. This notion that UEFA will frop it because a ban will be unpopular is very naive.
You have no idea what they will do. And I have very little faith in the FAI doing the right thing, so yes I believe they have no idea of what UEFA would do and just want to avoid any risk. They're just too scared or indifference to make the right call on it.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Milltown Row2

So as individuals they can do what they want, it won't impact their future with their employers, unless they are owned by someone with Israeli connections..
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

general_lee

Time for the Irish players to grow a set of balls.

I for one will boycott the Irish national team if these games go ahead.


tonto1888


Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: trueblue1234 on September 23, 2026, 11:41:15 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 23, 2026, 01:58:11 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on September 22, 2026, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 22, 2026, 10:35:30 AM
Quote from: trileacman on September 21, 2026, 11:50:07 PMWe should be sending the u-17s or a select 11 from the Irish 2nd division out to play the Israeli's for both fixtures and the indefinite future.

Typical of the lack of imagination at the FAI that they couldn't think of fudge to barely pacify UEFA whilst still making it clear that the Irish men's team refuse to play Israel whilst the commit genocide and ethnic displacement. Their comments this week about "oh we couldn't do without the money" were particularly disgusting. They're a stain on the Irish nation but that's nothing new.
So the same logic the GAA used about Allianz?

Worst case, and possible, is UEFA ban all Irish teams from international competition for 2 years. That is no Irish teams playing any games. That is LoI clubs out of Europe. Mass redundancies, the development of the game hugely hit. While principles cost, the FAI have a duty of care to the gane too.
But it could be a lot less than that. And with the way the last week or two has went UEFA would be very aware that there's the potential for even more boycotts. That the sentiment around this genocide is a lot stronger than people would have thought. UEFA don't want to be in a position of having to ban Spain cause they've previously banned Ireland.
Do you think the FAI would be going through this over a fine? Of course UEFA have clearly laid out the consequences and the FAI have made their call based on that.

Spain haven't stepped up. Nobody has. This notion that UEFA will frop it because a ban will be unpopular is very naive.
You have no idea what they will do. And I have very little faith in the FAI doing the right thing, so yes I believe they have no idea of what UEFA would do and just want to avoid any risk. They're just too scared or indifference to make the right call on it.

We know what they CAN do...

Are you seriously suggesting the FAI haven't spoken to UEFA?

Scared, definitely. Indifferent, get real.