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God rest him. Good footballer. God love those wee ones left behind.

I might be wrong, but it seemed to me like the woman who was presenting for the BBC was at her first ever Hurling match today!

Holly Hamilton...name might give it away

How did she do?

Would she make  a good duo  with Jackie Fullerton?

She was awful. No insight into questions to ask or direction to take the conversation. Kept glancing at her notes. Where was Sarah Mulkairns for the BBC?

Hamilton is married tp that phillips lad who was in the crowd. Bbc love their semi celebs at the finals.
Inswa Sarah presenting on bbc for the Open.

The Mayo away is horrendous. You wouldnt want to remember an all iteland win in that get up.  Worst kit ive ever seen a GAA team wear.

 

Pretty sure no pump noise but hard to tell because it takes a second or two to kick in and then I have the wipers scraping over dry windows. Have managed to get a look at it and it "looks" ok, no signs of blockage around the pump or anything in terms of gunk. It's getting and rear washer and fact I can't find dedicated fuse is annoying me.

I had spmething similar on a toyota Celica before. I put warm water into it . Not boiling. And kept the sprayer on. The warm water cleared the soap blockage. May noy be yiur issue but worth a try i suppose.

Any progress Down have made under Laveety. And they have improved. But saturday wrote it all off.
To lose any final to Wicklow is as bad as it gets. No disrespect to Wicklow but Down lost it because the Down players didnt want to know in the 2nd half.  They were out fought by a Div 4 team.
As low a day in Downs history that i can remember and there have been many.
We are now looked upon as one of those counties that used to be good. Likea Cavan or Offaly.
We think we are better than we are and the rest of the country are laughing at us.
I never thought id see the day that i was embarrassed to wear a Down jersey but sat was that day. Ironically things can still get worse. If Down get relegated from Div 2 next year and are back in the TC again, the current crop of players are at fault. Their lack of balls will have put Down in that position.
Does anyone believe they can turn it around next year?
Any good club player in the county not yet on the panel should be upping their game for club championship because there is more than a few positions up for improvement.
 

How many times in the second half did you see Down players losing possession cheaply and refusing to chase back at full pace, actually watching the Wicklow players steaming forward.
    I'm sure its something we all seen or coached at underage level and shouted at the player to try and discourage it. It's just a bad attitude and surely something the management have seen all throughout this year and previous years.
   
   
   
   
   
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Down players didnt want it enough. They let down all the loyal supporters who have followed them all year. From the high of Letterkenny we never thought the next few months wouldve brought such lows. Despite Laveetys claims that the players had bought into the TC, anyone going to the TC games could see they clearly hadnt.
Maybe its the best thing for them. Lets see how good they are next year, its on the players now. Are they good enough to compete with the Dublins, Tyrones,Louth, Monaghan, Derry.? And thats only div 2.

To lose to a Div 4 team after controlling the 1st half is unforgiveable. Doen have played 8 times in last few years at Croke park and have struggled in all but 1 of those games against Laois in 23 SF. Cant explain why? Is it pitch size?  But they were leaderless yesterday when it mattered, they sleep walked through the Tailteann and got caught yesterday and in Tullamore. Got lucky against a poor Fermanagh side. I wasnt suprised they ballsed that up yesterday. Laverty praised his backroom team and coaches in lead uo to the game but Meenagh was a big loss and he wasnt replaced with same calibre.
There is something not right is it mental prep? Is there a physchologist in the set uo? There should be.
There can bw no excuse for that 2nd half.
But fair play to Wicklow it meant the world to them yesterday. Down wouldve trudged around the pitch with the cup with a big forlorn head on them. This we deserve to be in Sam head on them. You dont deserve to be in Sam and you proved yesterday why you dont. Your not good enough. 1 game doesnt mean you should be playing sam maguire football. Donegal proved they werent all that losing to Cork and Dublin.
How do you be so prepared for 1 game in the year and not the rest.
Also as i said before the underage set up needs sorted before we do anything. Is there anyone in the U20s this year that would be an addition?

Down just need to evolve folks.

Our (relatively successful) gameplan for the past few years has been to work every play around the 4-5 main men. Understandable. The right move at the time.

All of those big players had forgettable second halves today. It happens.

But the next ones up aren't used to doing it.

It's now to evolve.

Mayo's full forward line scored 2.16 this evening. With two teenagers in it.

That's the way forward.

Best take on today. We run the ball 40/50m instead of kicking it, take very little risk in attack. Look at Kobe McDonald today, didn't care about losing the ball kicked it whenever he could, had a bit of flair in his link up play.

Our game plan is still tied to the old rules a bit like Donegals is (perhaps why we won against them). 

We dont have players of the Kobe mould. We prob have never jad as poor a forward unit.

Well done Wicklow you deserved it.enjoy the celebrations. As a Down man im not overly suprised that we managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Its why we are in the TC. And id say we will be in it for another few years.
 

Iown are always able to drop to the level of the teams they are playiing. We dont have the players but those that were on the pitch today shpuld have seen tgat. They all had a mare. Especially Murdock. He missed som amoint of kickable scores and was non existent at midfield. Burns is the o ly man who can take any credit from today.
How.they didnt see that out is criminal. But all the non match gping Down fans who thonl Lav should go , whp wpuod they replace him with? We dont have the quality.
Ive said it for years the underage set up is a farce and Down will struggle umtil that is sorted. All pur teams are B Championship level. Thats not a coincidence.
The day belongs to Wicklow and fair play to them. They deserved it.
A good year up until Clones. All downhill after that.

Anyone got 2 spare ti kets. Looking for a mate of mine. Pm if you do. Cheers
He got sorted. Thanks. Ignore the above.

Can they not build 2 15k capacity stands along both sides and 2 open terraces for 150M. My god what an embarrasment these muppets are. Looks like we will forever be going to that kip of a ground in clones.
No need for all that corporate nonsence. A big room with a bar for the 2 times a year it would be needed. Laughing stock.

Looks like Louth v Mayo All-Ireland semi-final is already sold out. I wonder did the Tailteann Cup Finalist get their hands on many tickets?

Good question. Not sure of allocation. I logged on at 11.50 and was put in a Q. 8k infront of me and all that was left were hill and Davin. Clun allocation was probably All cusack and hogan. I doubt tailteann got more than 5k each to the county board

Terrible work not giving these games their own day. Great work being done in all 4 counties with teams on the up but the eyes of the country will be on Killarney today.

Indeed they were.

As someone stated last week why aren't both tailteann semis curtain raisers to the all ireland semis.

Both games unlikely to get full houses but might be close if supplemented with tailteann cup.

Tailteann cup final could be played Saturday before all ireland final and make weekend of it.

Final was same day as All Ireland semis 2 years ago is this still the case?

That usually is the case.  Normally the Saturday semi i think with the junior all ireland final the sunday curtain raiser does it be?

Sat 11th July. Saw 3.30pm throw in somewhere. With AISF at 6pm.

Semi finals are for winning. Granted 2nd half wasnt a great watch. But in kilcoo fashion got the win.
Positive note is Eamon Brown, he really has impressed in thr last 2 games.
We need to be more clinical upfront.
Dont care what rte commentary say i think Pat meant that goal. He looked to place it.

Doen never do things easy no matter who is in charge. All league we were getting reeled in but saw it out.