Man Utd Thread:

Started by full back, November 10, 2006, 08:13:49 AM

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Boycey

I like Van Gaal too, I did the tour of Amsterdam Arena last year, he's very prominent in Ajax history and our tour guide spoke glowingly about him. His time at United ultimately isn't going to be remembered as a success but it annoys me to see him labelled as a spoofer and a bluffer after all he's achieved in the game..

Regarding finishing 4th it's still a possibility but should City f**k up like we need them too there is the possibility should both teams win their matches of West Ham also being able to get 4th also. That'd make it a humdinger of a game..

Personally I'd rather win the FA Cup than obsess over 4th though :-\

Bord na Mona man

Quote from: Boycey on May 03, 2016, 11:12:29 PM
I like Van Gaal too, I did the tour of Amsterdam Arena last year, he's very prominent in Ajax history and our tour guide spoke glowingly about him.
A lot of his ideas about team preparation have been well received at Utd. He'll be remembered as a decent coach in a lot of ways, but unfortunately failed to get the handbrake off when it came to attacking play.


heganboy

I grew up for some reason in the 70s as the kid that followed the upstarts led by Crazy Horse himself Emlyn Hughes. changing the 70s and the whole face of english football, and I have spent 30 years looking back wondering where that all went. So it is with a significant amount of jealousy, but with a delightful tip of the hat to the mancs and their wonderful 30 years that I offer you a beautiful piece of genius- Anthony H Wilson:

https://youtu.be/3cYNI8s_vo4

Brilliant!
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

seafoid

Quote from: Boycey on May 03, 2016, 11:12:29 PM
I like Van Gaal too, I did the tour of Amsterdam Arena last year, he's very prominent in Ajax history and our tour guide spoke glowingly about him. His time at United ultimately isn't going to be remembered as a success but it annoys me to see him labelled as a spoofer and a bluffer after all he's achieved in the game..

Regarding finishing 4th it's still a possibility but should City f**k up like we need them too there is the possibility should both teams win their matches of West Ham also being able to get 4th also. That'd make it a humdinger of a game..

Personally I'd rather win the FA Cup than obsess over 4th though :-\
LVG is like a St Bernard version of Cruyff. He did win the CL and has loads of experience but not as good as the legend achieved with Barca. and his dancing days are done. Man U need someone like Poch

Maroon Manc

LVG had turned into a very deluded man, I was fan up until November when the team like him lost the plot for a month. He was very open and honest about team performances up until then.

He's had a great career and perhaps he's still got something to give elsewhere but after a promising first 15 months in the United job he's no longer the right man for United. What surprises me most is how long it takes him to change tactically when its not working. Even in the last 2 games thats been very evident, he waited far too long to make changes in the games against Everton & Leicester.

under the bar

Keane saying LVG should be given another year saying the main issue for the team was lack of any leaders in the side.  Interesting viewpoint but regardless as to whether you share it,  there can be little doubt that if Utd had a midfield general this season who put it up to the team and, in particular, put it up to Rooney whor is undoubtedly too comfortable as top-dog, United could have turned a few of the 0-0 draws into wins.

Maroon Manc

Quote from: under the bar on May 05, 2016, 09:18:59 PM
Keane saying LVG should be given another year saying the main issue for the team was lack of any leaders in the side.  Interesting viewpoint but regardless as to whether you share it,  there can be little doubt that if Utd had a midfield general this season who put it up to the team and, in particular, put it up to Rooney whor is undoubtedly too comfortable as top-dog, United could have turned a few of the 0-0 draws into wins.

He is right about this United side not having enough leaders in it but LVG has had plenty of time to put that right and he didn't. Leaders develop too, Vidic & Evra became leaders while they were at United. From late October until the end of December we scored 7 goals in 10 league game and won 11 points. In 6 or 7 of those game we barely created a chance, LVG's tactics were the reason for this and not lack of leaders. You need to get players into the box to score goals and far too often this season we've had one player in the box up against 4 defenders. Results wise we've gone backwards and the football has been even worse this season which is a terrible combination so he has to go.

GJL

Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 06, 2016, 10:04:28 AM
Quote from: under the bar on May 05, 2016, 09:18:59 PM
Keane saying LVG should be given another year saying the main issue for the team was lack of any leaders in the side.  Interesting viewpoint but regardless as to whether you share it,  there can be little doubt that if Utd had a midfield general this season who put it up to the team and, in particular, put it up to Rooney whor is undoubtedly too comfortable as top-dog, United could have turned a few of the 0-0 draws into wins.

He is right about this United side not having enough leaders in it but LVG has had plenty of time to put that right and he didn't. Leaders develop too, Vidic & Evra became leaders while they were at United. From late October until the end of December we scored 7 goals in 10 league game and won 11 points. In 6 or 7 of those game we barely created a chance, LVG's tactics were the reason for this and not lack of leaders. You need to get players into the box to score goals and far too often this season we've had one player in the box up against 4 defenders. Results wise we've gone backwards and the football has been even worse this season which is a terrible combination so he has to go.

Will he though?    Win the FA cup and scrape top 4 (unlikely) might be enough for him to get his final year.

mouview

Jose ain't gonna stick around if that's the case though....

seafoid

Quote from: mouview on May 06, 2016, 01:36:52 PM
Jose ain't gonna stick around if that's the case though....
Mourinho would be as successful as big Joe was in Galway

Cunny Funt

Quote from: seafoid on May 06, 2016, 01:50:09 PM
Quote from: mouview on May 06, 2016, 01:36:52 PM
Jose ain't gonna stick around if that's the case though....
Mourinho would be as successful as big Joe was in Galway
Apart from John O'Mahony what other Galway football managers was deemed successful over the last 20 years?

beer baron

If he's kept we may as well say we're happy to do a Liverpool on it and settle for no league title for the next few decades. He's a bluffer and a half and you'd be as well off giving the job to Joe Kinnear.

Maroon Manc

Quote from: GJL on May 06, 2016, 11:10:37 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on May 06, 2016, 10:04:28 AM
Quote from: under the bar on May 05, 2016, 09:18:59 PM
Keane saying LVG should be given another year saying the main issue for the team was lack of any leaders in the side.  Interesting viewpoint but regardless as to whether you share it,  there can be little doubt that if Utd had a midfield general this season who put it up to the team and, in particular, put it up to Rooney whor is undoubtedly too comfortable as top-dog, United could have turned a few of the 0-0 draws into wins.

He is right about this United side not having enough leaders in it but LVG has had plenty of time to put that right and he didn't. Leaders develop too, Vidic & Evra became leaders while they were at United. From late October until the end of December we scored 7 goals in 10 league game and won 11 points. In 6 or 7 of those game we barely created a chance, LVG's tactics were the reason for this and not lack of leaders. You need to get players into the box to score goals and far too often this season we've had one player in the box up against 4 defenders. Results wise we've gone backwards and the football has been even worse this season which is a terrible combination so he has to go.

Will he though?    Win the FA cup and scrape top 4 (unlikely) might be enough for him to get his final year.

There's always a small chance he might be kept on if we finished 4th but I just can't see that happening, can't see us winning all our remaining games.

The league will be very open again next season and is there to be won as long as we have a new manager.

magpie seanie

Not at all impressed with the team picked for this game. Was hopeful with Fellaini out that Herrera would get in but he's still on the bench. Incredible. Mojo, ropey at full back, is now centre back. Carrick, Rooney and Mata especially could get caught out with the energy of what Norwich will bring (their manager calling it the most important game of their lives). At least Martial is up top. Scoring first will be huge.

OgraAnDun

Quote from: magpie seanie on May 07, 2016, 12:14:45 PM
At least Martial is up top.

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