Man Utd Thread:

[seafoid]

It is nice to see the order in the Prem disrupted.  Man U and Chelsea don't have as much money
as they did pre financial crisis and the Sheikhs are rolling in it.

Raidio na Gaeltachta was great this morning.

Eist leis seo : Manchester United a haon- Manchester City a se.
An taon uair eile a chaill Manchester United  a haon -a cuig in aghaidh Manchester City chuaigh alex Freguson abhaile and lui se ar a leaba ar feadh tamalll agus do chuir se a chloigeaan faoin pillow .

[Boycey]

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger...

I'm sure United will dust themselves down and get back in the groove over the next couple of weeks. Although a lunchtime trip to Goodison on Sat is probably not what the doctor ordered. Have to say some of the reaction and counter reaction on here has been gas.

[stew]

Evan;s has been playing well this season however he cannot be trusted against the big teams and I doubt he will feature in any big games going forward. Anderson is not good enough at the top level, he is very inconsistent passing the ball and he is predictable and a defensive liability.
United looked toothless yesterday, even when they dominated possession early on they never tested the City keeper and I have to say it looks like Ferguson has no idea what his best line up is, he better hope that was not it yesterday.

3 points lost but I am confident united will be alright, they have the experience City lack and for me it is a two horse race between the Manchester teams.

[seafoid]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/oct/23/manchester-city-united-new-era

United's board will brace itself for a regurgitation of ominous statistics, principally the one showing the £473m the Glazer family have drained in bank interest, fees and charges. The juxtaposition of two ownership models now favours City. In one, debt is loaded on the club to pay. In the other, money pours in as gift, as extravagance.

[Clown]

A quick run through of that United team yesterday tells me it cost around £150m to assemble
you would think with the crying some are doing on here that it was built with youngsters and free transfers FFS, all of which were United fans as boys of course!

[J OGorman]

A quick run through of that United team yesterday tells me it cost around £150m to assemble
you would think with the crying some are doing on here that it was built with youngsters and free transfers FFS, all of which were United fans as boys of course!

That's not the point that's being made. Utd (and I'm far from being a Utd fan) have assembled a team of foreign imports, homegrown players, academy players etc. A squad built over many seasons, added to here and there when the money and a player of good enough standard was available. Until those shysters from the US arrived, did Utd not live within their means? Were they not operating in the black?  Over the years they have splashed out on the likes of Ferdinand, Rooney etc, you have to to compete, but they did it with what their revenue from an achieved global brand allowed, that is the envy the world over and the benchmark for other top table teams. Their team yesterday did cost over £100M, just a t**ker's chuff more than Man City's sub bench right enough

On the other side,in comes a multi-billionaire, buys a new squad, who win the FA in the first year of being togethr, and now look likely to win the premier league (hammering Utd @ Old Trafford in the process) in their second year, making a mockery and a farce of the league in my opinion...I realise that predicting City will win the league is conjecture, but its very likely. The league has always been very weighted towards a few teams, esp with Sky sports coming along and spreading its wealth not too evenly. We seen it with Chelsea, but with City, its a whole new 'ball game'

Like most men folk in Ireland, I was reared watching the english soccer, still travel to Anfield every year, though its more of a weekend away than for the matches. It was always the GAA and soccer for me, but now its the GAA and rugby much more so. Christ, feel absolutely free to disagree with my opinion but offer an opinion rather than a one sentence pot shot. Be interested to know how others feel on this issue

[Dinny Breen]

A quick run through of that United team yesterday tells me it cost around £150m to assemble
you would think with the crying some are doing on here that it was built with youngsters and free transfers FFS, all of which were United fans as boys of course!

That's not the point that's being made. Utd (and I'm far from being a Utd fan) have assembled a team of foreign imports, homegrown players, academy players etc. A squad built over many seasons, added to here and there when the money and a player of good enough standard was available. Until those shysters from the US arrived, did Utd not live within their means? Were they not operating in the black?  Over the years they have splashed out on the likes of Ferdinand, Rooney etc, you have to to compete, but they did it with what their revenue from an achieved global brand allowed, that is the envy the world over and the benchmark for other top table teams. Their team yesterday did cost over £100M, just a t**ker's chuff more than Man City's sub bench right enough

On the other side,in comes a multi-billionaire, buys a new squad, who win the FA in the first year of being togethr, and now look likely to win the premier league (hammering Utd @ Old Trafford in the process) in their second year, making a mockery and a farce of the league in my opinion...I realise that predicting City will win the league is conjecture, but its very likely. The league has always been very weighted towards a few teams, esp with Sky sports coming along and spreading its wealth not too evenly. We seen it with Chelsea, but with City, its a whole new 'ball game'

Like most men folk in Ireland, I was reared watching the english soccer, still travel to Anfield every year, though its more of a weekend away than for the matches. It was always the GAA and soccer for me, but now its the GAA and rugby much more so. Christ, feel absolutely free to disagree with my opinion but offer an opinion rather than a one sentence pot shot. Be interested to know how others feel on this issue

It's the same model though, City have just accelerated theirs. It's professional sport, romance died in the English game once Sky entered the arena. 

[Boycey]

A quick run through of that United team yesterday tells me it cost around £150m to assemble
you would think with the crying some are doing on here that it was built with youngsters and free transfers FFS, all of which were United fans as boys of course!

That's not the point that's being made. Utd (and I'm far from being a Utd fan) have assembled a team of foreign imports, homegrown players, academy players etc. A squad built over many seasons, added to here and there when the money and a player of good enough standard was available. Until those shysters from the US arrived, did Utd not live within their means? Were they not operating in the black?  Over the years they have splashed out on the likes of Ferdinand, Rooney etc, you have to to compete, but they did it with what their revenue from an achieved global brand allowed, that is the envy the world over and the benchmark for other top table teams. Their team yesterday did cost over £100M, just a t**ker's chuff more than Man City's sub bench right enough

On the other side,in comes a multi-billionaire, buys a new squad, who win the FA in the first year of being togethr, and now look likely to win the premier league (hammering Utd @ Old Trafford in the process) in their second year, making a mockery and a farce of the league in my opinion...I realise that predicting City will win the league is conjecture, but its very likely. The league has always been very weighted towards a few teams, esp with Sky sports coming along and spreading its wealth not too evenly. We seen it with Chelsea, but with City, its a whole new 'ball game'

Like most men folk in Ireland, I was reared watching the english soccer, still travel to Anfield every year, though its more of a weekend away than for the matches. It was always the GAA and soccer for me, but now its the GAA and rugby much more so. Christ, feel absolutely free to disagree with my opinion but offer an opinion rather than a one sentence pot shot. Be interested to know how others feel on this issue

It's the same model though, City have just accelerated theirs. It's professional sport, romance died in the English game once Sky entered the arena.

How is it the same model Dinny?

[Clown]

Blackburn, Chelsea and Man United have all bought titles in their time

City have taken it to a new level

[Canalman]

May be me but it seems from watching MOTD every week that there seems to be way more empty seats at games than a few years ago.
Don't know if the stats back this up or not.

Mate of mine, a big soccer head told me that the hammering Arsenal got from MU earlier in the season was the death knell for the EPL as we know it.

[Bingo]

May be me but it seems from watching MOTD every week that there seems to be way more empty seats at games than a few years ago.
Don't know if the stats back this up or not.

Mate of mine, a big soccer head told me that the hammering Arsenal got from MU earlier in the season was the death knell for the EPL as we know it.

I just got in at the end yesterday but judging by the empty seats the attendence must only have been 30-35k at best 

[laoislad]

city will win at OT this weekend.

They are a good price 13/5

Might take some of that

I hope you followed my advice 

Well done the worker, TBH law of averages you were going to get one right eventually..

On a scale of 1-6 how pissed off are you with todays result?

 

[Jonah]

Really embarrassing result for us yesterday but I could see it coming.
Norwich should have got a point off us,we were blessed to beat Chelsea 3-1 and really Liverpool should have beaten us comfortably.
I can't see United winning the league this year at all.

[screenexile]

To be honest JO I couldn't give a fiddlers about the Premier League I only comment on it to make a mockery of supposed 'fans' who take it too seriously.

It is interesting and entertaining at times but it wouldn't get my blood up or anything. People take a notion of 'supporting' Man Utd and then they suddenly feel they are better than you just becasue they made a meaningless decision. There is nothing stopping me from becoming a United 'supporter' in the morning. It's a bit of a joke! Very few people outside of Manchester can have a legitimate claim or reason for supporting United and the fact that their 'supporters' take it so seriously completely baffles me.

Compare that to the GAA or even Rugby. Munster, Leinster, Ulster and Connacht all have home grown players that have come through the school system and live amongst the supporters. In the GAA it's your school friends, your family playing for the teams. Manchester United and any other team for that matter lost their identity long long ago yet people will still fight with good friends over United losing a game!

[ross4life]

city will win at OT this weekend.

They are a good price 13/5

Might take some of that

I hope you followed my advice 

Well done the worker, TBH law of averages you were going to get one right eventually..

On a scale of 1-6 how pissed off are you with todays result?