Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[Main Street]

In today's game Mon v Derry the ref Noel Mooney acknowledged the end of game hooter and called for the ball.
Is that not it?  that he can't undo that decision? is there a precedent where a ref blew the whistle to end the game, then whilst walking off the pitch decided to undo that decision  and restart the game from the end point?

Yeah I can't find a rule to cover it but was there not a famous hurling match in the 90's when the players staged a sit in until a match was restarted because it had blown up early or am i misremembering that?

Offhand I think that hurling game was replayed

Yeah Offaly fans sat on the pitch to protest. Game wrongly ended 2 minutes early. Offaly got their replay and  won it, then won  the All Ireland as well

Goes to show  you can  get things done by sitting on your ass

Perhaps the Derry supporters should have had a sit down protest on the field of play until the game was called off. Once upon a time Derry folk could hold a sit down protest at the drop of a ruc baton.
Will Derry accept the result as is or will they object on the basis  of the  right of the ref to overrule himself on his rule book determined right to blow the absolute final whistle on the game?

[David McKeown]

On the Saturday game tonight they referred to rule 10.1. Any one any idea what they were referring to because the rest of the rule didn't really make any sense.

[Smokin Joe]

On the Saturday game tonight they referred to rule 10.1. Any one any idea what they were referring to because the rest of the rule didn't really make any sense.

The rule they were referring to was the change in rule from last year where a sideline ball can be taken even if the hooter goes before it is taken.  It reveresed the rule last year, which correctly, did not allow Monaghan to take the sideline kick against Donegal.

[Wildweasel74]

But why that allowed after the hooter but a free or 45 is not? Tad silly!

[Rossfan]

Free and 45 is allowed.

[Armagh18]

But why that allowed after the hooter but a free or 45 is not? Tad silly!

Yes they are. But you have to score from them.

[David McKeown]

On the Saturday game tonight they referred to rule 10.1. Any one any idea what they were referring to because the rest of the rule didn't really make any sense.

The rule they were referring to was the change in rule from last year where a sideline ball can be taken even if the hooter goes before it is taken.  It reveresed the rule last year, which correctly, did not allow Monaghan to take the sideline kick against Donegal.

What I am is asking is where is Rule 10. Where do we find it. The official guide only goes up to rule 6. The rule they quoted also made no sense because it read as if you could take a sideline off the ground or a 45 out of the hands as long as the hooter had gone which is not the rule.

The rule from the official guide is 1.2 of the rules of control

vi) To record playing time, and to extend time in each half for deliberate or incidental delay or to allow for a free - awarded before time had expired - to be taken. Should the defending team commit a further foul before the referee whistles for full-time, the Referee shall further extend the time to permit an additional free to be taken, from which a score can be made, provided no other player of the side taking the free touchesthe ball.

[The Boy Wonder]

Didn't hear hooter at halftime or fulltime in Dublin-Louth game.

High morals in Portlaoise - keep Hooters out     

[AustinPowers]

Can a sideline ball still  be taken off the ground?

It's been a while since  I seen one  taken  

[Cunny Funt]

In today's game Mon v Derry the ref Noel Mooney acknowledged the end of game hooter and called for the ball.
Is that not it?  that he can't undo that decision? is there a precedent where a ref blew the whistle to end the game, then whilst walking off the pitch decided to undo that decision  and restart the game from the end point?

First time I've ever seen a ref doing that.  Mooney made an error to call full time and generally refs don't believe they are ever wrong and players,management,supporters have to accept such errors and move on.  2010 Leinster final a prime example or late square ball goals wrongly given or disallowed to win games. 

[Main Street]

In today's game Mon v Derry the ref Noel Mooney acknowledged the end of game hooter and called for the ball.
Is that not it?  that he can't undo that decision? is there a precedent where a ref blew the whistle to end the game, then whilst walking off the pitch decided to undo that decision  and restart the game from the end point?

First time I've ever seen a ref doing that.  Mooney made an error to call full time and generally refs don't believe they are ever wrong and players,management,supporters have to accept such errors and move on.  2010 Leinster final a prime example or late square ball goals wrongly given or disallowed to win games. 

I appreciate that Mooney realised he made an error in not allowing the sideline kick but he had blown the whistle on the game after the hooter and was walking off the pitch. But had he an imprimatur  from the GAA rule book to reverse his decision and restart the game from that point? I assume there is no such direction in the rule book saying  that the referees whistle to end the game is absolute and irreversible. 
I'm reminded of the Monaghan v Armagh game 1/4 final in croke pk 2023 when ref  Conor Lane had a peep at a video replay on the big screen before cancelling an umpires call for a 45. There appears to be some  deal of discretion re the refs control of a game.

[Wildweasel74]

I think Derry be more annoyed he gave a sideline instead a free out to Doherty than the game restarting but it showed the hooter a balls and let the ref manage the time, in that case he allowed the last sideline kick anyway and we be crying he played for a draw but not the mess that unfolded.

[AustinPowers]

What was the thinking behind the  2 point arc  stopping at the 21 yard line?

Cork scored a great sideline v Kerry ,  around 19/20 yards from the end line, but  the arc doesn't  extend that far. It stops at the 21, and therefore  it was only worth  1 point

Was a great kick. It was more than 50 yards   from goal, so should have been 2 points. It deserved  2 points

[blanketattack]

What was the thinking behind the  2 point arc  stopping at the 21 yard line?

Cork scored a great sideline v Kerry ,  around 19/20 yards from the end line, but  the arc doesn't  extend that far. It stops at the 21, and therefore  it was only worth  1 point

Was a great kick. It was more than 50 yards   from goal, so should have been 2 points. It deserved  2 points

For consistency across pitches.
Pitches can vary from 80m to 90m in width.
Some are even slightly under 80m, so the arc would go beyond the sideline.
For those exactly 80m, the arc would overlap the sideline at the corner flag and there'd be very little room between the arc and the sideline whilst inside the 14m.

They could have gone back to 14 though instead of the 21 though.