The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread

[JimStynes]

Also, will this finally be the year that Rangers die?

[lenny]

O'Reilly will 100% go before the end of the window, i am fairly confident of that. Do Celtic have a squad to be even half competitive in Europe? Not even close.
Idah is a decent enough striker but couldn't get a game for Championship side Norwich. How do we expect him to bang them in in Europe.
Celtic lack that spark in Europe (something Jota used to provide), O'Reilly is the only real player you would fancy to pull something out of the bag vs a decent team in Europe. The rest just are nowhere near good enough

100% confident or fairly confident?

[sensethetone]

Also, will this finally be the year that Rangers die?

Can Rangers keep coming back?

[tiempo]

Also, will this finally be the year that Rangers die?

Where's this at? Without keeping too close an eye on it I expect their botched stadium maintenance is something they can hardly afford but was essential, playing that CL qualifier at Hampden likely contributed to their defeat and they badly needed that CL cash.

There'll always be a hoard of gullible minions to fill Ibrox and buy jerseys and whatnot, which is why they'll continue to exist, but whats the bottom line, a second liquidation or is that unlikely, at a minimum it seems they are just going to have to swallow another generation of pure dross

The banters years must continue!

[illdecide]

We have to trust in BR that he will get another 2-3 players in before window closes, A LB (no cover there at all) and a left CB is crucial. If O'Rielly moves on then we need a replacement for him. If he stays then an attacker in the form of a winger or striker is needed. Whether we can get these players in is to be seen.
It's so frustrating the way Celtic do business, other clubs identify a player and just go and buy them with little to no fuss but with Celtic it drags on for weeks and weeks with negotiations after negotiations...Urghhh

[From the Bunker]

Wonder how much College Corinthians in Douglas Cork get in financially from the Idah fee?

800k (euro) reportedly. Good boost for them.

Great to see money filter down to the ground-roots especially in Ireland. Hopefully it is well spent.

[Main Street]

what is the actual fee? 9.5m is what it can possibly rise to

In modern days Celtic's record was set with the transfer of Hartson,Sutton Lennon and Mjallby.
The money paid for Idah is a pittance in comparison.

That's over 20 years ago. Celtic invested for Europe and it paid off over them years.

My point is Lawell and Board could have this Idah deal done two months ago for £3m less but they f^"ked about and put in silly offers to Norwich.  Typical Celtic. Deal for Idah should have been done in early June.

In a way Peter Lawell must be working for Atlanta re: Matt O Riley. I see they've come in with another offer, possibly their 5th offer this summer for him. WTF! If I was Celtic, I'd say, no more offers unless it's £30m - do a 'Norwich' on them.

I hope Idah does the business for  Celtic. He seems a good lad who's hapoy to be in Glasgow and is buzzing to play. His price tag was mainly to do with the Board's typical messing about - panic buy at that time.  I still think the Aberdeen lad, at £6m, would have been a great bit of business - even along with Idah. 

The key thing is that Celtic, currently, have stood still this summer.  No further on in reality. Two loan signings, now bought. I think Kasper is similar to Harte but he's a real good bit of business.

Good chance O Riley will eventually go...so Celtic will be back to square one again.

PS - I see Ireland's Sammie Szmodics has left Blackburn for Ipswich for £9m. Top scorer in championship last season. Be interesting to see how he goes this season.

Relative to todays money, the money paid for those players in Mon's time dwarfs the 9m paid for Idah. Thats a football transfer specific inflation value truth. The board invested serious money in Mons time, this 9m for Idah is a pittance in comparison

[toby47]

what is the actual fee? 9.5m is what it can possibly rise to

In modern days Celtic's record was set with the transfer of Hartson,Sutton Lennon and Mjallby.
The money paid for Idah is a pittance in comparison.

That's over 20 years ago. Celtic invested for Europe and it paid off over them years.

My point is Lawell and Board could have this Idah deal done two months ago for £3m less but they f^"ked about and put in silly offers to Norwich.  Typical Celtic. Deal for Idah should have been done in early June.

In a way Peter Lawell must be working for Atlanta re: Matt O Riley. I see they've come in with another offer, possibly their 5th offer this summer for him. WTF! If I was Celtic, I'd say, no more offers unless it's £30m - do a 'Norwich' on them.

I hope Idah does the business for  Celtic. He seems a good lad who's hapoy to be in Glasgow and is buzzing to play. His price tag was mainly to do with the Board's typical messing about - panic buy at that time.  I still think the Aberdeen lad, at £6m, would have been a great bit of business - even along with Idah. 

The key thing is that Celtic, currently, have stood still this summer.  No further on in reality. Two loan signings, now bought. I think Kasper is similar to Harte but he's a real good bit of business.

Good chance O Riley will eventually go...so Celtic will be back to square one again.

PS - I see Ireland's Sammie Szmodics has left Blackburn for Ipswich for £9m. Top scorer in championship last season. Be interesting to see how he goes this season.

Relative to todays money, the money paid for those players in Mon's time dwarfs the 9m paid for Idah. Thats a football transfer specific inflation value truth. The board invested serious money in Mons time, this 9m for Idah is a pittance in comparison

Sammie Szmodics - Leagues Top scorer with 27 goals
Adam Idah - Substitute for a team in same league

Both 9 million

[GTP]

Szmodics is older than Idah and any team buying him is likely to factor in that there is no resale value so likely to have a lower ceiling price.
As a comparison Cardiff City centre-back Mark McGuinness is set to join Championship rivals Luton Town in a deal which could eventually be worth £10m. - 23 year old ROI youth international apparently at a similar price to Idah a full international and a striker so traditionally more costly.
They have probably overpaid compared to what could have been negotiated in January but from a football perspective it is better to have him in the squad than some extra money in the bank.

[toby47]

Szmodics is older than Idah and any team buying him is likely to factor in that there is no resale value so likely to have a lower ceiling price.
As a comparison Cardiff City centre-back Mark McGuinness is set to join Championship rivals Luton Town in a deal which could eventually be worth £10m. - 23 year old ROI youth international apparently at a similar price to Idah a full international and a striker so traditionally more costly.
They have probably overpaid compared to what could have been negotiated in January but from a football perspective it is better to have him in the squad than some extra money in the bank.

Not sure Idah's ceiling would ever be 27 goals in a championship season.

I'd rather have Idah too, than not have him, although I'm not sure there will ever be a big resale value one him, especially with the sell on fee.

[toby47]

City looking at Kyogo

[marty34]

City looking at Kyogo

Kyogo seems to have a constant shoulder problem. Rogers says he'd need an op. which could put him out for 4 months or so.  Maybe could get it in May and be ready just in September. But he can play on regardless but hard to know if City ould take the risk.  Although they could get him cheap enough in comparsion to other leagues.

Seems Gündogen could be heading back to City. No big moves the Saudi league, so far anyway, this year.

IF, a big if, Kyogo goes...and O'Riley moves before ghe week-end, it'd seriously weaken Celtic.

The thing is that the SPL winners in 2025 will have to qualify for the group stages I think? Could be wrong. But Celtic, as SPL winners in 24/25, will struggle next year to qualify.   

Neil Lennon has been given the road in Romania. 6 draws and a defeat. Not great. Maybe end up in Scotland again before the end of the season.

[Main Street]

Szmodics is older than Idah and any team buying him is likely to factor in that there is no resale value so likely to have a lower ceiling price.
As a comparison Cardiff City centre-back Mark McGuinness is set to join Championship rivals Luton Town in a deal which could eventually be worth £10m. - 23 year old ROI youth international apparently at a similar price to Idah a full international and a striker so traditionally more costly.
They have probably overpaid compared to what could have been negotiated in January but from a football perspective it is better to have him in the squad than some extra money in the bank.

Not sure Idah's ceiling would ever be 27 goals in a championship season.

I'd rather have Idah too, than not have him, although I'm not sure there will ever be a big resale value one him, especially with the sell on fee.

I don't think the Idah sell on clauses matter that much, Idah will repay his fees (and wages) in kind over this season and the next. Anything gained after that is in bonus territory.

Idah's 9m fee is a relative pittance to what the board dished out for Sutton, Hartson et al.I didn't realise then just how much the board  went total left field with the transfer policy during Mon's time.

[tiempo]

Surely Rodgers would have enough draw to pull a few quality prospects or loanees out of PL academies, losing Kyogo and MOR leaves things very delicate, but Celtic are a selling club in the grand scheme

[tonto1888]

Szmodics is older than Idah and any team buying him is likely to factor in that there is no resale value so likely to have a lower ceiling price.
As a comparison Cardiff City centre-back Mark McGuinness is set to join Championship rivals Luton Town in a deal which could eventually be worth £10m. - 23 year old ROI youth international apparently at a similar price to Idah a full international and a striker so traditionally more costly.
They have probably overpaid compared to what could have been negotiated in January but from a football perspective it is better to have him in the squad than some extra money in the bank.

Not sure Idah's ceiling would ever be 27 goals in a championship season.

I'd rather have Idah too, than not have him, although I'm not sure there will ever be a big resale value one him, especially with the sell on fee.

I don't think the Idah sell on clauses matter that much, Idah will repay his fees (and wages) in kind over this season and the next. Anything gained after that is in bonus territory.

Idah's 9m fee is a relative pittance to what the board dished out for Sutton, Hartson et al.I didn't realise then just how much the board  went total left field with the transfer policy during Mon's time.

sutton, hartson, lennon all 6 million signings back then. Wonder what that would translate into now