The Many Faces of US Politics...

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Eamonnca1

QuoteClassified Material on Human Intelligence Sources Helped Trigger Alarm

Documents related to the work of clandestine sources are some of the most sensitive and protected in the government. F.B.I. agents found some in boxes retrieved from Donald J. Trump's home.

WASHINGTON — They risk imprisonment or death stealing the secrets of their own governments. Their identities are among the most closely protected information inside American intelligence and law enforcement agencies. Losing even one of them can set back American foreign intelligence operations for years.

Clandestine human sources are the lifeblood of any espionage service. This helps explain the grave concern within American agencies that information from undercover sources was included in some of the classified documents recently removed from Mar-a-Lago, the Florida home of former President Donald J. Trump — raising the prospect that the sources could be identified if the documents got into the wrong hands.

Mr. Trump has a long history of treating classified information with a sloppiness few other presidents have exhibited. And the former president's cavalier treatment of the nation's secrets was on display in the affidavit underlying the warrant for the Mar-a-Lago search. The affidavit, released in redacted form on Friday, described classified documents being found in multiple locations around the Florida residence, a private club where both members and their guests mingle with the former president and his coterie of aides.

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He should be hanged for treason over this. Bush outing Valerie Plame was bad enough. This is next level stuff.

Main Street

Leave the guy alone, hasn't the FBI. persecuted. him enough? And whatabout Biden jr's laptop?
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Eamonnca1


screenexile

Quote from: whitey on August 24, 2022, 08:03:10 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 24, 2022, 06:17:55 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 24, 2022, 03:35:01 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 24, 2022, 03:20:50 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 24, 2022, 02:24:17 PM
So opposition research which has been proven false (or unproven as you would like to say) was used as the basis to wiretap Trumps campaign and you think that's okay?

If knowingly and maliciously false, of course not.

I guess we'll never know since Glenn Simpson pleaded the fifth rather than testify

https://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/16/glenn-simpson-gps-co-founder-pleads-fifth-trump-do/

Not a good look, for sure.

Was this when Trump declared that innocent people don't plead the fifth?

No idea

I don't listen to too much that Trump says

But given everything that went down with the dossier and the fisa warrants, conservatives like me have every reason to question and doubt the FBI

Seems strange given the FBI handed Trump the Whitehouse on a platter with Comeys statement about Hillary's laptop days before the polls. . . Conservatives have very selective memory when it comes to issues that work out in their favour!!

What did the FBI ever find to implicate Clinton in that particular case??

Oh yes sweet FA!

whitey

Hundreds of thousands of emails, some classified.....on the laptop of a convicted sex offender and you don't think the American people deserved to know that BEFORE the election?

fearbrags

Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 01:10:19 PM
Hundreds of thousands of emails, some classified.....on the laptop of a convicted sex offender and you don't think the American people deserved to know that BEFORE the election?

.on the laptop of a convicted sex offender  ??

Who are we talking about ?  Epstein , Maxwell ?? 

whitey

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Quote from: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 04:57:16 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 01:10:19 PM
Hundreds of thousands of emails, some classified.....on the laptop of a convicted sex offender and you don't think the American people deserved to know that BEFORE the election?

.on the laptop of a convicted sex offender  ??

Who are we talking about ?  Epstein , Maxwell ??


Your buddy Anthony Weiner (Huma Abedins husband)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Weiner

(If Hillary hadn't illegally deleted her emails (which were under subpoena) and destroyed the server it would have been a non issue)

fearbrags

Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 05:19:50 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 04:57:16 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 01:10:19 PM
Hundreds of thousands of emails, some classified.....on the laptop of a convicted sex offender and you don't think the American people deserved to know that BEFORE the election?

.on the laptop of a convicted sex offender  ??

Who are we talking about ?  Epstein , Maxwell ??


Your buddy Anthony Weiner (Huma Abedins husband)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Weiner

(If Hillary hadn't illegally deleted her emails (which were under subpoena) and destroyed the server it would have been a non issue)

First ""Weiner"" would not be not be my buddy  and I actually forgot about him at least he seemed to disappear

I think we had plenty of info on him ""without Hillarys emails'' and he did resign  and I am not sure how close they were  Ps  I wouldn't be a fan of the Clintons either

But if you are so Concerned   What of ""your Buddies ""  say ""Matt Gaetz""  ""Jim Jordon""  no sign of them to even resign   
                                                                          Trump's  & Oj's  Lawyer  Alan Dershowitz


whitey

Quote from: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 07:31:49 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 05:19:50 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 04:57:16 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 01:10:19 PM
Hundreds of thousands of emails, some classified.....on the laptop of a convicted sex offender and you don't think the American people deserved to know that BEFORE the election?

.on the laptop of a convicted sex offender  ??

Who are we talking about ?  Epstein , Maxwell ??


Your buddy Anthony Weiner (Huma Abedins husband)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Weiner

(If Hillary hadn't illegally deleted her emails (which were under subpoena) and destroyed the server it would have been a non issue)

First ""Weiner"" would not be not be my buddy  and I actually forgot about him at least he seemed to disappear

I think we had plenty of info on him ""without Hillarys emails'' and he did resign  and I am not sure how close they were  Ps  I wouldn't be a fan of the Clintons either

But if you are so Concerned   What of ""your Buddies ""  say ""Matt Gaetz""  ""Jim Jordon""  no sign of them to even resign   
                                                                          Trump's  & Oj's  Lawyer  Alan Dershowitz
What do Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan or Alan Dershowitz have to do with the fact that hundreds of thousands of (potentially) missing emails were found on the laptop of a convicted sex offender?

fearbrags

Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 07:58:25 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 07:31:49 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 05:19:50 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 04:57:16 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 01:10:19 PM
Hundreds of thousands of emails, some classified.....on the laptop of a convicted sex offender and you don't think the American people deserved to know that BEFORE the election?

.on the laptop of a convicted sex offender  ??

Who are we talking about ?  Epstein , Maxwell ??


Your buddy Anthony Weiner (Huma Abedins husband)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Weiner

(If Hillary hadn't illegally deleted her emails (which were under subpoena) and destroyed the server it would have been a non issue)

First ""Weiner"" would not be not be my buddy  and I actually forgot about him at least he seemed to disappear

I think we had plenty of info on him ""without Hillarys emails'' and he did resign  and I am not sure how close they were  Ps  I wouldn't be a fan of the Clintons either

But if you are so Concerned   What of ""your Buddies ""  say ""Matt Gaetz""  ""Jim Jordon""  no sign of them to even resign   
                                                                          Trump's  & Oj's  Lawyer  Alan Dershowitz
What do Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan or Alan Dershowitz have to do with the fact that hundreds of thousands of (potentially) missing emails were found on the laptop of a convicted sex offender?

FFs If they had the labtop they know what is on it ?  On  I  Mentioning Gatez etc   Just pointing out how  partisan  you are ? 

whitey

Quote from: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 08:09:47 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 07:58:25 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 07:31:49 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 05:19:50 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 04:57:16 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 01:10:19 PM
Hundreds of thousands of emails, some classified.....on the laptop of a convicted sex offender and you don't think the American people deserved to know that BEFORE the election?

.on the laptop of a convicted sex offender  ??

Who are we talking about ?  Epstein , Maxwell ??


Your buddy Anthony Weiner (Huma Abedins husband)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Weiner

(If Hillary hadn't illegally deleted her emails (which were under subpoena) and destroyed the server it would have been a non issue)

First ""Weiner"" would not be not be my buddy  and I actually forgot about him at least he seemed to disappear

I think we had plenty of info on him ""without Hillarys emails'' and he did resign  and I am not sure how close they were  Ps  I wouldn't be a fan of the Clintons either

But if you are so Concerned   What of ""your Buddies ""  say ""Matt Gaetz""  ""Jim Jordon""  no sign of them to even resign   
                                                                          Trump's  & Oj's  Lawyer  Alan Dershowitz
What do Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan or Alan Dershowitz have to do with the fact that hundreds of thousands of (potentially) missing emails were found on the laptop of a convicted sex offender?

FFs If they had the labtop they know what is on it ?  On  I  Mentioning Gatez etc   Just pointing out how  partisan  you are ?

You obviously haven't a clue about how this whole thing went down

Hillary gave them printed copies of her emails (not electronic versions) so there was no way for the FBI to automatically cross reference with what was on the laptop.

They had to go through them one by one and manually reconcile each one with the printed copies

fearbrags

Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 08:26:05 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 08:09:47 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 07:58:25 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 07:31:49 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 05:19:50 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 04:57:16 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 01:10:19 PM
Hundreds of thousands of emails, some classified.....on the laptop of a convicted sex offender and you don't think the American people deserved to know that BEFORE the election?

.on the laptop of a convicted sex offender  ??

Who are we talking about ?  Epstein , Maxwell ??


Your buddy Anthony Weiner (Huma Abedins husband)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Weiner

(If Hillary hadn't illegally deleted her emails (which were under subpoena) and destroyed the server it would have been a non issue)

First ""Weiner"" would not be not be my buddy  and I actually forgot about him at least he seemed to disappear

I think we had plenty of info on him ""without Hillarys emails'' and he did resign  and I am not sure how close they were  Ps  I wouldn't be a fan of the Clintons either

But if you are so Concerned   What of ""your Buddies ""  say ""Matt Gaetz""  ""Jim Jordon""  no sign of them to even resign   
                                                                          Trump's  & Oj's  Lawyer  Alan Dershowitz
What do Matt Gaetz, Jim Jordan or Alan Dershowitz have to do with the fact that hundreds of thousands of (potentially) missing emails were found on the laptop of a convicted sex offender?

FFs If they had the labtop they know what is on it ?  On  I  Mentioning Gatez etc   Just pointing out how  partisan  you are ?

You obviously haven't a clue about how this whole thing went down

Hillary gave them printed copies of her emails (not electronic versions) so there was no way for the FBI to automatically cross reference with what was on the laptop.

They had to go through them one by one and manually reconcile each one with the printed copies

Ok you are right I dont know  how actually it went down , But i doubt you do either ,   Was there stuff on there she didnt want us to see . Yes I am sure there was , but I Think loads of politicians are hiding stuff all the time ""for example Hunters labtop etc'' . But  Fbi's Comey  indecision   possibly cost her the election , Unlike most she went in front  congress and testified for hours without pleading the 5th every 5 seconds     Trump paid  a newspaper to ""catch and kill ""  loads of negative stories , In defense  of the Clintons or (Trump for that matter) there was somewhat of Witch hunts out for them. In the Clintons case ""Land deal led to Monica etc .  Same at the Moment with ""Raid on Trumps place ""  I am not sure What to believe . I do know US Politics is a mess at the moment . 

whitey

LOL-She's the Secretary of State while her husbands foundation is getting millions upon millions from foreign governments and other entities

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/ethics-approval-came-easily-at-hillary-clintons-state-department-115468?_amp=true

Most people in Ireland have a very one sided version of what happened but scratch under the surface and there's a lot more to this than the bad old white Republicans hanging up on poor Hillary


fearbrags

Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 09:09:18 PM
LOL-She's the Secretary of State while her husbands foundation is getting millions upon millions from foreign governments and other entities

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/ethics-approval-came-easily-at-hillary-clintons-state-department-115468?_amp=true

Most people in Ireland have a very one sided version of what happened but scratch under the surface and there's a lot more to this than the bad old white Republicans hanging up on poor Hillary

Yea I actually am not disagreeing with you at all "'Clintons And ""Trumps"" quiet similar

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/06/ivanka-trump-gets-initial-approval-from-china-for-16-trademarks.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-04-11/how-did-jared-kushner-get-2-billion-from-the-saudis




whitey

Quote from: fearbrags on August 28, 2022, 09:32:29 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 28, 2022, 09:09:18 PM
LOL-She's the Secretary of State while her husbands foundation is getting millions upon millions from foreign governments and other entities

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/ethics-approval-came-easily-at-hillary-clintons-state-department-115468?_amp=true

Most people in Ireland have a very one sided version of what happened but scratch under the surface and there's a lot more to this than the bad old white Republicans hanging up on poor Hillary

Yea I actually am not disagreeing with you at all "'Clintons And ""Trumps"" quiet similar

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/06/ivanka-trump-gets-initial-approval-from-china-for-16-trademarks.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-04-11/how-did-jared-kushner-get-2-billion-from-the-saudis

I actually hate both parties almost equally

I'm old school, so I lean Republican but disagree with them on many topics

Eg-I'm not dead set against student loan forgiveness like most Republicans