The Many Faces of US Politics...

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J70

Quote from: whitey on August 20, 2022, 01:19:37 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 19, 2022, 09:46:56 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 19, 2022, 01:01:38 AM
Texas Republicans' censorship,  the frenzied school book banning of anything related to the history of slavery, anything remotely informative about sexual hormones and now the Dairy of Anne Frank has been banned, waking up the usually sedate Jerusalem Post out of a comatose state in regards to such matters.

Texas school district orders removal of Anne Frank's diary from shelves

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-714895?dicbo=v2-c1c6320059a4bdf86041da5335e140ac

BANNED



These whackjobs are sick in the head.

Hopefully the backlash will be swift and these ghouls voted off these school boards across the country.

J70

Speaking of "whack jobs" have you ever taken a look at "Libs of Tik Tok" on Twitter ?

No.

J70

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 23, 2022, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: Gmac on April 08, 2022, 11:18:15 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 20, 2020, 06:38:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2020, 05:50:19 PM
Gmac ever condemn those right wing would be putschists?

I think he's okay with all of those right wing Reichstag burnings and the terrorist plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan.

Quoth Fox News:

The militia group accused of planning to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer previously discussed taking over the state Capitol building and staging a weeklong series of televised executions of public officials, authorities said.

The plot was revealed by the Michigan Attorney General's Office during arguments against the release of Pete Musico, 42, one of eight men facing state terrorism charges in the case, WWMT-TV recently reported. Six others face federal charges for their roles in the thwarted kidnapping plot.

Some of the suspects belonged to the Wolverine Watchmen, an anti-government militia. The group concocted two separate plans during a Second Amendment rally in June in front of the Capitol building in Lansing.

One involved recruiting 200 men to storm the building while lawmakers were in session, according to court documents.

"They were to take hostages, execute tyrants and have it televised," court documents read. "It would take about one week and that no one is coming out alive."

Another plan involved storming the building, locking it and setting it ablaze with lawmakers inside. Musico suggested there were "tactical difficulties" with the plan.

Instead, he developed another, less complicated one to target the homes of elected officials and kidnap them, prosecutors said.

They eventually settled for kidnapping Whitmer, a Democrat, who has been criticized by some for enacting restrictions to combat the spread of the coronavirus. The alleged plot was foiled by the FBI and Michigan State Police.
any update on this rossfan ?

Yes- yes there is

https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-men-found-guilty-in-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer-11661272134

Oops!

Ensnared using that hereto unknown novel commie libtard police tactic of deep cover. ;D

Although I shouldn't laugh - this could have ended up very, very badly.

Eamonnca1

Two of them entered guilty pleas and testified against their mates, eh? So much for unity in the ranks of the right wing terrorists. There might be hope for us yet.

Eamonnca1

Gavin Newsom looking more and more like he'd ready to make a serious run at the top job in 2024. Might be a little earlier than he'd hoped, but Joe's age and Kamala's lack of electability is making it look like this is the time.

Gmac

Quote from: J70 on August 23, 2022, 07:14:40 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 23, 2022, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: Gmac on April 08, 2022, 11:18:15 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 20, 2020, 06:38:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2020, 05:50:19 PM
Gmac ever condemn those right wing would be putschists?

I think he's okay with all of those right wing Reichstag burnings and the terrorist plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan.

Quoth Fox News:

The militia group accused of planning to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer previously discussed taking over the state Capitol building and staging a weeklong series of televised executions of public officials, authorities said.

The plot was revealed by the Michigan Attorney General's Office during arguments against the release of Pete Musico, 42, one of eight men facing state terrorism charges in the case, WWMT-TV recently reported. Six others face federal charges for their roles in the thwarted kidnapping plot.

Some of the suspects belonged to the Wolverine Watchmen, an anti-government militia. The group concocted two separate plans during a Second Amendment rally in June in front of the Capitol building in Lansing.

One involved recruiting 200 men to storm the building while lawmakers were in session, according to court documents.

"They were to take hostages, execute tyrants and have it televised," court documents read. "It would take about one week and that no one is coming out alive."

Another plan involved storming the building, locking it and setting it ablaze with lawmakers inside. Musico suggested there were "tactical difficulties" with the plan.

Instead, he developed another, less complicated one to target the homes of elected officials and kidnap them, prosecutors said.

They eventually settled for kidnapping Whitmer, a Democrat, who has been criticized by some for enacting restrictions to combat the spread of the coronavirus. The alleged plot was foiled by the FBI and Michigan State Police.
any update on this rossfan ?

Yes- yes there is

https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-men-found-guilty-in-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer-11661272134

Oops!

Ensnared using that hereto unknown novel commie libtard police tactic of deep cover. ;D

Although I shouldn't laugh - this could have ended up very, very badly.
the judge told the jury to find them guilty last week
The fbi are stitching up the former president how hard do you think it is to entrap 6 pot head rednecks in the Michigan woods , but still only managed to get 2 after a retrial.
Don't think the fbi would have kidnapped Whitmer so don't worry about it turning out bad , have you never watched Donnie Branco

Gabriel_Hurl

What was that someone said about someone being "gullible and ill informed on a consistent basis."

Jell 0 Biafra

I've read some shite on this thread, but that one may take the prize.

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 24, 2022, 01:13:52 AM
I've read some shite on this thread, but that one may take the prize.

Obama's brother was the judge I heard

J70

Quote from: Gmac on August 23, 2022, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 23, 2022, 07:14:40 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 23, 2022, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: Gmac on April 08, 2022, 11:18:15 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 20, 2020, 06:38:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2020, 05:50:19 PM
Gmac ever condemn those right wing would be putschists?

I think he's okay with all of those right wing Reichstag burnings and the terrorist plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan.

Quoth Fox News:

The militia group accused of planning to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer previously discussed taking over the state Capitol building and staging a weeklong series of televised executions of public officials, authorities said.

The plot was revealed by the Michigan Attorney General's Office during arguments against the release of Pete Musico, 42, one of eight men facing state terrorism charges in the case, WWMT-TV recently reported. Six others face federal charges for their roles in the thwarted kidnapping plot.

Some of the suspects belonged to the Wolverine Watchmen, an anti-government militia. The group concocted two separate plans during a Second Amendment rally in June in front of the Capitol building in Lansing.

One involved recruiting 200 men to storm the building while lawmakers were in session, according to court documents.

"They were to take hostages, execute tyrants and have it televised," court documents read. "It would take about one week and that no one is coming out alive."

Another plan involved storming the building, locking it and setting it ablaze with lawmakers inside. Musico suggested there were "tactical difficulties" with the plan.

Instead, he developed another, less complicated one to target the homes of elected officials and kidnap them, prosecutors said.

They eventually settled for kidnapping Whitmer, a Democrat, who has been criticized by some for enacting restrictions to combat the spread of the coronavirus. The alleged plot was foiled by the FBI and Michigan State Police.
any update on this rossfan ?

Yes- yes there is

https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-men-found-guilty-in-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer-11661272134

Oops!

Ensnared using that hereto unknown novel commie libtard police tactic of deep cover. ;D

Although I shouldn't laugh - this could have ended up very, very badly.
the judge told the jury to find them guilty last week
The fbi are stitching up the former president how hard do you think it is to entrap 6 pot head rednecks in the Michigan woods , but still only managed to get 2 after a retrial.
Don't think the fbi would have kidnapped Whitmer so don't worry about it turning out bad , have you never watched Donnie Branco

I was thinking exactly of Donnie Brasco. Funny you mentioned it. ;D

Because you'd swear listening to you that cops haven't been going under cover for decades to root out criminals and conspiracies.

And how the f**k are the FBI stitching up Trump?

We're not talking some broke kid from the ghetto falling victim to crooked cops and incompetent, overworked, underfunded public defenders.

whitey

Quote from: J70 on August 24, 2022, 01:39:59 AM
Quote from: Gmac on August 23, 2022, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 23, 2022, 07:14:40 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 23, 2022, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: Gmac on April 08, 2022, 11:18:15 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 20, 2020, 06:38:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2020, 05:50:19 PM
Gmac ever condemn those right wing would be putschists?

I think he's okay with all of those right wing Reichstag burnings and the terrorist plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan.

Quoth Fox News:

The militia group accused of planning to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer previously discussed taking over the state Capitol building and staging a weeklong series of televised executions of public officials, authorities said.

The plot was revealed by the Michigan Attorney General's Office during arguments against the release of Pete Musico, 42, one of eight men facing state terrorism charges in the case, WWMT-TV recently reported. Six others face federal charges for their roles in the thwarted kidnapping plot.

Some of the suspects belonged to the Wolverine Watchmen, an anti-government militia. The group concocted two separate plans during a Second Amendment rally in June in front of the Capitol building in Lansing.

One involved recruiting 200 men to storm the building while lawmakers were in session, according to court documents.

"They were to take hostages, execute tyrants and have it televised," court documents read. "It would take about one week and that no one is coming out alive."

Another plan involved storming the building, locking it and setting it ablaze with lawmakers inside. Musico suggested there were "tactical difficulties" with the plan.

Instead, he developed another, less complicated one to target the homes of elected officials and kidnap them, prosecutors said.

They eventually settled for kidnapping Whitmer, a Democrat, who has been criticized by some for enacting restrictions to combat the spread of the coronavirus. The alleged plot was foiled by the FBI and Michigan State Police.
any update on this rossfan ?

Yes- yes there is

https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-men-found-guilty-in-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer-11661272134

Oops!

Ensnared using that hereto unknown novel commie libtard police tactic of deep cover. ;D

Although I shouldn't laugh - this could have ended up very, very badly.
the judge told the jury to find them guilty last week
The fbi are stitching up the former president how hard do you think it is to entrap 6 pot head rednecks in the Michigan woods , but still only managed to get 2 after a retrial.
Don't think the fbi would have kidnapped Whitmer so don't worry about it turning out bad , have you never watched Donnie Branco

I was thinking exactly of Donnie Brasco. Funny you mentioned it. ;D

Because you'd swear listening to you that cops haven't been going under cover for decades to root out criminals and conspiracies.

And how the f**k are the FBI stitching up Trump?

We're not talking some broke kid from the ghetto falling victim to crooked cops and incompetent, overworked, underfunded public defenders.

They stitched him up before so it's not that big of a leap to assume they'd do it again

lenny

Quote from: whitey on August 24, 2022, 02:35:26 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 24, 2022, 01:39:59 AM
Quote from: Gmac on August 23, 2022, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 23, 2022, 07:14:40 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 23, 2022, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: Gmac on April 08, 2022, 11:18:15 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 20, 2020, 06:38:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2020, 05:50:19 PM
Gmac ever condemn those right wing would be putschists?

I think he's okay with all of those right wing Reichstag burnings and the terrorist plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan.

Quoth Fox News:

The militia group accused of planning to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer previously discussed taking over the state Capitol building and staging a weeklong series of televised executions of public officials, authorities said.

The plot was revealed by the Michigan Attorney General's Office during arguments against the release of Pete Musico, 42, one of eight men facing state terrorism charges in the case, WWMT-TV recently reported. Six others face federal charges for their roles in the thwarted kidnapping plot.

Some of the suspects belonged to the Wolverine Watchmen, an anti-government militia. The group concocted two separate plans during a Second Amendment rally in June in front of the Capitol building in Lansing.

One involved recruiting 200 men to storm the building while lawmakers were in session, according to court documents.

"They were to take hostages, execute tyrants and have it televised," court documents read. "It would take about one week and that no one is coming out alive."

Another plan involved storming the building, locking it and setting it ablaze with lawmakers inside. Musico suggested there were "tactical difficulties" with the plan.

Instead, he developed another, less complicated one to target the homes of elected officials and kidnap them, prosecutors said.

They eventually settled for kidnapping Whitmer, a Democrat, who has been criticized by some for enacting restrictions to combat the spread of the coronavirus. The alleged plot was foiled by the FBI and Michigan State Police.
any update on this rossfan ?

Yes- yes there is

https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-men-found-guilty-in-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer-11661272134

Oops!

Ensnared using that hereto unknown novel commie libtard police tactic of deep cover. ;D

Although I shouldn't laugh - this could have ended up very, very badly.
the judge told the jury to find them guilty last week
The fbi are stitching up the former president how hard do you think it is to entrap 6 pot head rednecks in the Michigan woods , but still only managed to get 2 after a retrial.
Don't think the fbi would have kidnapped Whitmer so don't worry about it turning out bad , have you never watched Donnie Branco

I was thinking exactly of Donnie Brasco. Funny you mentioned it. ;D

Because you'd swear listening to you that cops haven't been going under cover for decades to root out criminals and conspiracies.

And how the f**k are the FBI stitching up Trump?

We're not talking some broke kid from the ghetto falling victim to crooked cops and incompetent, overworked, underfunded public defenders.

They stitched him up before so it's not that big of a leap to assume they'd do it again

Possibly but it's much less of a leap of faith to believe that trump took very sensitive, classified documents with a view to being able to sell them for lots of money. Everything about him suggests that is extremely likely.

J70

Quote from: whitey on August 24, 2022, 02:35:26 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 24, 2022, 01:39:59 AM
Quote from: Gmac on August 23, 2022, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 23, 2022, 07:14:40 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 23, 2022, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: Gmac on April 08, 2022, 11:18:15 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 20, 2020, 06:38:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2020, 05:50:19 PM
Gmac ever condemn those right wing would be putschists?

I think he's okay with all of those right wing Reichstag burnings and the terrorist plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan.

Quoth Fox News:

The militia group accused of planning to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer previously discussed taking over the state Capitol building and staging a weeklong series of televised executions of public officials, authorities said.

The plot was revealed by the Michigan Attorney General's Office during arguments against the release of Pete Musico, 42, one of eight men facing state terrorism charges in the case, WWMT-TV recently reported. Six others face federal charges for their roles in the thwarted kidnapping plot.

Some of the suspects belonged to the Wolverine Watchmen, an anti-government militia. The group concocted two separate plans during a Second Amendment rally in June in front of the Capitol building in Lansing.

One involved recruiting 200 men to storm the building while lawmakers were in session, according to court documents.

"They were to take hostages, execute tyrants and have it televised," court documents read. "It would take about one week and that no one is coming out alive."

Another plan involved storming the building, locking it and setting it ablaze with lawmakers inside. Musico suggested there were "tactical difficulties" with the plan.

Instead, he developed another, less complicated one to target the homes of elected officials and kidnap them, prosecutors said.

They eventually settled for kidnapping Whitmer, a Democrat, who has been criticized by some for enacting restrictions to combat the spread of the coronavirus. The alleged plot was foiled by the FBI and Michigan State Police.
any update on this rossfan ?

Yes- yes there is

https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-men-found-guilty-in-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer-11661272134

Oops!

Ensnared using that hereto unknown novel commie libtard police tactic of deep cover. ;D

Although I shouldn't laugh - this could have ended up very, very badly.
the judge told the jury to find them guilty last week
The fbi are stitching up the former president how hard do you think it is to entrap 6 pot head rednecks in the Michigan woods , but still only managed to get 2 after a retrial.
Don't think the fbi would have kidnapped Whitmer so don't worry about it turning out bad , have you never watched Donnie Branco

I was thinking exactly of Donnie Brasco. Funny you mentioned it. ;D

Because you'd swear listening to you that cops haven't been going under cover for decades to root out criminals and conspiracies.

And how the f**k are the FBI stitching up Trump?

We're not talking some broke kid from the ghetto falling victim to crooked cops and incompetent, overworked, underfunded public defenders.

They stitched him up before so it's not that big of a leap to assume they'd do it again

I always understood "stitched up" by the authorities to mean false conviction,  being framed.

When did that happen to Trump?

whitey

Quote from: J70 on August 24, 2022, 10:28:32 AM
Quote from: whitey on August 24, 2022, 02:35:26 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 24, 2022, 01:39:59 AM
Quote from: Gmac on August 23, 2022, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 23, 2022, 07:14:40 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 23, 2022, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: Gmac on April 08, 2022, 11:18:15 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on November 20, 2020, 06:38:14 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 20, 2020, 05:50:19 PM
Gmac ever condemn those right wing would be putschists?

I think he's okay with all of those right wing Reichstag burnings and the terrorist plot to kidnap the governor of Michigan.

Quoth Fox News:

The militia group accused of planning to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer previously discussed taking over the state Capitol building and staging a weeklong series of televised executions of public officials, authorities said.

The plot was revealed by the Michigan Attorney General's Office during arguments against the release of Pete Musico, 42, one of eight men facing state terrorism charges in the case, WWMT-TV recently reported. Six others face federal charges for their roles in the thwarted kidnapping plot.

Some of the suspects belonged to the Wolverine Watchmen, an anti-government militia. The group concocted two separate plans during a Second Amendment rally in June in front of the Capitol building in Lansing.

One involved recruiting 200 men to storm the building while lawmakers were in session, according to court documents.

"They were to take hostages, execute tyrants and have it televised," court documents read. "It would take about one week and that no one is coming out alive."

Another plan involved storming the building, locking it and setting it ablaze with lawmakers inside. Musico suggested there were "tactical difficulties" with the plan.

Instead, he developed another, less complicated one to target the homes of elected officials and kidnap them, prosecutors said.

They eventually settled for kidnapping Whitmer, a Democrat, who has been criticized by some for enacting restrictions to combat the spread of the coronavirus. The alleged plot was foiled by the FBI and Michigan State Police.
any update on this rossfan ?

Yes- yes there is

https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-men-found-guilty-in-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer-11661272134

Oops!

Ensnared using that hereto unknown novel commie libtard police tactic of deep cover. ;D

Although I shouldn't laugh - this could have ended up very, very badly.
the judge told the jury to find them guilty last week
The fbi are stitching up the former president how hard do you think it is to entrap 6 pot head rednecks in the Michigan woods , but still only managed to get 2 after a retrial.
Don't think the fbi would have kidnapped Whitmer so don't worry about it turning out bad , have you never watched Donnie Branco

I was thinking exactly of Donnie Brasco. Funny you mentioned it. ;D

Because you'd swear listening to you that cops haven't been going under cover for decades to root out criminals and conspiracies.

And how the f**k are the FBI stitching up Trump?

We're not talking some broke kid from the ghetto falling victim to crooked cops and incompetent, overworked, underfunded public defenders.

They stitched him up before so it's not that big of a leap to assume they'd do it again

I always understood "stitched up" by the authorities to mean false conviction,  being framed.

When did that happen to Trump?

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/stitch-up

To stitch someone up means to trick them so that they are put in a difficult or unpleasant situation, especially one where they are blamed for something they have not done.

The FBIs handling Russia Hoax/Fake Dossier would meet that definition imho.

J70

Except it wasn't a Russia hoax.

I couldn't be arsed trying to think back through everything, so I'll quote what I wrote on a previous occasion we discussed this, including that a Republican led Senate investigation found that Russia HAD interfered in the election:

If the Russia "hoax" was such a hoax, why did Trump obstruct and use the promise of pardon's to impede the investigation? Why were Fox News going nuts for months warning him about a "perjury trap" were he to testify? Why was Roger Stone, part of his campaign, working with them and Wikileaks to get the emails? Why was Donnie Jr meeting with Russians in Trump Tower in the hopes of getting dirt? Why has Trump bent over backwards to cravenly deny every legitimate allegation brought up against Putin? The government confirmed that the Russians had interfered. Manafort? The only question was whether Trump and/or his campaign actually colluded with them. That was something that absolutely needed to be investigated.

And speaking of testimony and depositions, has Trump ever actually sat down and answered a question on anything?

We know he pled the fifth 440 times recently in the NY case, but has he ever actually provided any information to anyone?

Hillary sat through an eleven hour live televised grilling by the Benghazi committee in the lead up to the 2016 election. But Trump is getting warned about "perjury traps" and throwing every roadblock he can to thwart anyone looking at anything, no matter what it is. Clearly a man on the up and up on multiple fronts.

whitey

So opposition research which has been proven false (or unproven as you would like to say) was used as the basis to wiretap Trumps campaign and you think that's okay?